VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Abhai]

DarkDaemonX
im rarely giving facepalms, yet your whole "escapade" in this thread deserves much more than one...sadly there is no such "a multiple utter shit" reactions yet...so just keep trolling, you surely shall remain with this account for a long time

 

[Joshua Tree]

The developer obviously knows about it being on here, if they didn't want it here, they could report it and get rid of it.

If someone want to pirate something, it will be pirated, regardless what the creator behind feel about it. Also if a creator could just "report it" and it would be removed from the site, then it would defeat the whole purpose of being a pirate site right?

 

[Yukemoto]

Oh dear.... download material worry free from a pirate site. Harming the reputation of the developer? but you don't mind steal from the developer?

"Oh dear" nothing. The developer has been posting on this thread getting feedback and helping with exception errors since the beginning, try again.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

DarkDaemonX
im rarely giving facepalms, yet your whole "escapade" in this thread deserves much more than one...sadly there is no such "a multiple utter shit" reactions yet...so just keep trolling, you surely shall remain with this account for a long time

I'm not trolling, I'm starting to think you're the one doing the trolling here, as you just completely disregard everything I say, and that last thing you said looks a lot like a threat, is that what you do to anyone who doesn't bow down to you, you threaten to get their accounts deleted?

 

[DarkDaemonX]

If someone want to pirate something, it will be pirated, regardless what the creator behind feel about it. Also if a creator could just "report it" and it would be removed from the site, then it would defeat the whole purpose of being a pirate site right?

It has happened before.

 

[Joshua Tree]

"Oh dear" nothing. The developer has been posting on this thread getting feedback and helping with exception errors since the beginning, try again.

I'm sorry you failed to connect the dots.

 

[Joshua Tree]

It has happened before.

They can report the links, and the host will take them down. But that doesn't mean new links wont come up. Or even better, torrents they can't do jack shit about.

 

[Yukemoto]

I'm sorry you failed to connect the dots.

The fuck does that even mean?! At this point you're veering into self parody.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

They can report the links, and the host will take them down. But that doesn't mean new links wont come up. Or even better, torrents they can't do jack shit about.

That's true, but as said before, in this case the developer is active in the thread themselves, like many other devs are in the threads of their own games.

 

[CellStudios]

Sorry you were put in the middle of this. I'd like to think the joke was made with good intentions and not out of malice. I saw the update and was excited, for whatever reason I thought I would come back and download it later instead of then, lucky for me I did that. I think people who are saying this joke damaged the site's reputation are taking F95 just a little too seriously.

We honestly wasn't that upset about it. The anger more comes from the fact they somehow got an unfinished version of the Ep22 script. If this was all done without them using that then this wouldn't haven't been that bad for us. It just shows that someone on the QC team was in on it and now we can't trust the whole team because someone wanted to pull a joke. They could have easily done the same prank without that script but they chose not too and now because of it we've had to stop using the QC team meaning testing is delayed which only delays the release. We've got a small handfull of the QC team that we still trust but still, if whoever was in on it could just man up and come forward then we can move on and get the release out quicker. But because they won't we've had to stop using like 10 testers, meaning we the devs have to do all that testing solo. And when I say we the testers, I actually mean Ace, Cheeky and Wiz because I've never tested before and would get lost with it

 

[BisonFan02]

We honestly wasn't that upset about it. The anger more comes from the fact they somehow got an unfinished version of the Ep22 script. If this was all done without them using that then this wouldn't haven't been that bad for us. It just shows that someone on the QC team was in on it and now we can't trust the whole team because someone wanted to pull a joke. They could have easily done the same prank without that script but they chose not too and now because of it we've had to stop using the QC team meaning testing is delayed which only delays the release. We've got a small handfull of the QC team that we still trust but still, if whoever was in on it could just man up and come forward then we can move on and get the release out quicker. But because they won't we've had to stop using like 10 testers, meaning we the devs have to do all that testing solo. And when I say we the testers, I actually mean Ace, Cheeky and Wiz because I've never tested before and would get lost with it

What requires that many testers? Is the game that complex? Outside of dev and an editor/proofreader, there are TWO of us that beta COBD. We pull in 2-3 more guys in for shits and giggles right before release to give fresh playthroughs, but that is it.

 

[HSHS1111]

April Fool's 2023 is one day closer. You keep giving the mods ideas .
It's funny how they rush to delete posts or even issue warnings if you post memes or dare to mention another game while fairly comparing it to the one the thread's devoted to just to illustrate your opinion. Such an unforgivable crime. But then they see it fit to harm a game's reputation like this, or when they split another game into two threads claiming that Season 2 wasn't the same game but a Prequel (in a time travel game!!!). It's really unbelievable what they'd do without at least apologizing.

I don't get it. If this is supposed to be an April Fools joke endorsed by the mods then it's their job to restore it back to working order after April 1st is over. If it isn't endorsed then they should deal with the uploader who clearly submitted a broken build/game. Or does this not fall in their responsibilities? If it is endorsed and they leave it up it just looks like a shitty attempt to extort the devs to release the next version faster. And they'd be fools to engage that in any way.

 

[redknight00]

We honestly wasn't that upset about it. The anger more comes from the fact they somehow got an unfinished version of the Ep22 script. If this was all done without them using that then this wouldn't haven't been that bad for us. It just shows that someone on the QC team was in on it and now we can't trust the whole team because someone wanted to pull a joke. They could have easily done the same prank without that script but they chose not too and now because of it we've had to stop using the QC team meaning testing is delayed which only delays the release. We've got a small handfull of the QC team that we still trust but still, if whoever was in on it could just man up and come forward then we can move on and get the release out quicker. But because they won't we've had to stop using like 10 testers, meaning we the devs have to do all that testing solo. And when I say we the testers, I actually mean Ace, Cheeky and Wiz because I've never tested before and would get lost with it

There is no leak, the joke version was just the previous one minus the executable.

 

[CellStudios]

What requires that many testers? Is the game that complex? Outside of dev and an editor/proofreader, there are TWO of us that beta COBD. We pull in 2-3 more guys in for shits and giggles right before release to give fresh playthroughs, but that is it.

WYHI has a lot of branches. Sure, 10 might not be needed but always better to have too many than not enough. That being said the beta releases can drop at all hours of the day and best to have multiple people in different time zones just so we know it is getting tested if we're away.

I don't get it. If this is supposed to be an April Fools joke endorsed by the mods then it's their job to restore it back to working order after April 1st is over. If it isn't endorsed then they should deal with the uploader who clearly submitted a broken build/game. Or does this not fall in their responsibilities? If it is endorsed and they leave it up it just looks like a shitty attempt to extort the devs to release the next version faster. And they'd be fools to engage that in any way.

From what I understand it was someone on the QC team that came up with the idea and sent the broken version of the game to a mod ( that mod either knew it was broke or uploaded it thinking it was a real release ) and then when the mods found out it was a broken version, rather than deleting it, they doubled down and claimed it as an April Fools joke they were in on. But we can't be 100% sure who was behind it or how it went down unless someone on the mod team talks or the person on the QC team. I believe it has all been resolved now though and the broken version has been removed.

There is no leak, the joke version was just the previous one minus the executable.

It still had the Ep22.rpy script that only the QC team has access to.

 

[redknight00]

WYHI has a lot of branches. Sure, 10 might not be needed but always better to have too many than not enough. That being said the beta releases can drop at all hours of the day and best to have multiple people in different time zones just so we know it is getting tested if we're away.



From what I understand it was someone on the QC team that came up with the idea and sent the broken version of the game to a mod ( that mod either knew it was broke or uploaded it thinking it was a real release ) and then when the mods found out it was a broken version, rather than deleting it, they doubled down and claimed it as an April Fools joke they were in on. But we can't be 100% sure who was behind it or how it went down unless someone on the mod team talks or the person on the QC team. I believe it has all been resolved now though and the broken version has been removed.



It still had the Ep22.rpy script that only the QC team has access to.

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[CellStudios]

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I didn't download it myself but another member of the dev team did and he said it had out current text version of the ep22 with our story in it. Let me double check with the team. Appreciate you responding though.

 

[StantheMan69]

The saying.... Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Come to mind here... Really? You know people that did download it on every link before they did take a couple mins to check out the thread to see what was going on?

Yes I do know of two friends that down loaded it on every link. I downloaded it twice myself because I had issues in the past where a like was missing a file and other link worked fine. I also don't think they read any of the threads. There fault or not for being dumb. Point is it is a kind of crappy prank to pull when they could of just made the links go to a rick roll video and more people would of got a laugh and knew it was a prank right away.

 

[acewinz]

There is no leak, the joke version was just the previous one minus the executable.

Appreciate the heads up. I downloaded the "test" prank version myself to see what was in it and either I f'd up or my atom editor pulled some shenanigans on me because of the proper naming structure when I loaded it. Because I saw an older partial version of our ep22. But i tried loading the test again today and my editor just crashes and won't load it. Cell did get it to load though and it was just jibberish.

So while I am happy we don't have to sack any of our QC team and can let them back at the beta, probably gonna need to apologize to them a few times first I imagine. Still wish this all could have been avoided though by not celebrating such a stupid holiday or some upfront communication from the f95 staff when we attempted to straighten it out that day.

 

[acewinz]

What requires that many testers? Is the game that complex? Outside of dev and an editor/proofreader, there are TWO of us that beta COBD. We pull in 2-3 more guys in for shits and giggles right before release to give fresh playthroughs, but that is it.

At one point WTHI had over 250 variables. After some trimming down as we went we got it down to 150ish now. Keep in mind just a single girls date variable can have a dozen or more "stages" that are hardly straight forward and the game is so complex with the interwoven way the characters will interact with the MC based on his choices, both with them and other characters, that people who have tried to do walkthroughs (besides us) could at best manage to lay out a single path which explored the most content. Then most of them gave up.

As for our QC team, they are great at finding the typo's and variable snafu's on the main paths, but given the way so many variables can end up interacting in the game it would be near impossible for a small team of 10 or so guys and 3-4 devs to test everything. There are literally times we won't see an error crop up even post release for months. Then have a single report from a patreon that just happened to take a particular set of a dozen choices through the game that ended up with something unexpected.

I have played thousands of other AVN's here and even started with the old-school Japanese AVN's. I know I'm biased, but there are none I have played that match the impact of choice WTHI has on the narrative, both in the story arcs, and for the girls involved. But don't take my word for it. Give it a try.

 

[D9074]

its kinda crazy really because it could of fucked with their money, also took days for them to find out that it wasnt actually leaked by a member of their team.. if you gonna pull pranks like this ya need to be more clear with the people it affects.