VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Cedroc1701]

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Regarding the end scene; I've seen others mention that it doesn't happen on the Bella path, but I can confirm it does, it did in my playthrough. and I just checked the code to see something....

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[acewinz]

Regarding the end scene; I've seen others mention that it doesn't happen on the Bella path, but I can confirm it does, it did in my playthrough. and I just checked the code to see something....

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Not entirely related to your comment but you reminded me of something.

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[dkatryl]

For what it's worth, I realized the problem with the exception error when I tried to save was on my end. Seeing some of the other comments and how ep23 was upgraded to renoy 8.03, and my JoiPlay was still on 7.5, I downloaded the 8.03 from their Patreon, and that fixed the problem.

 

[Cedroc1701]

Not entirely related to your comment but you reminded me of something.

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Hah, that is interesting! I was scanning through the Ep23 script and the amount of conditional scenes is... mindblowing. I don't know how you can keep it all straight and remember each exception. It's like this meme in code form:

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Regarding those characters:

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[NakedSingularity]

Is there an incest mod for ep 22-23 that actually works? The vanilla version of this sucks.

 

[Machete]

Is there an incest mod for ep 22-23 that actually works? The vanilla version of this sucks.

How does the story even make sense with an incest patch? Best case scenario it could work if you make monica mc's aunt, so that the dialogs stay coherent, but i guess you want a 'bang mommy' mod.

 

[NakedSingularity]

How does the story even make sense with an incest patch? Best case scenario it could work if you make monica mc's aunt, so that the dialogs stay coherent, but i guess you want a 'bang mommy' mod.

I haven't played it since ep21/ last incest mod but irrc "mommy's friend" is just the plain mommy and her daughters (nerd girl and gym rat) are your sisters. So all story where it mentions or refers to mom as dead is removed. Much more than a "bang mommy" mod, you could also bang your hot sisters.

 

[nazaguerrero]

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I actually forgot about that bc I did the non revenge thing

On a serious note, loved the update! the comicon was really fun & hot

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

I had a whole rant typed out but what's the fucking point....

Cliffnotes version...



Still a harem and still defeats the whole purpose of the entire not sharing thing. They may not know they are sharing but they still are.



Still a harem. When you start hitting 3+ women in one relationship you're in a harem as per the tag rules here and still defeats the whole not sharing thing.

Lets not even get into the Katie and Jenna thing that at one point was an instant breakup but now they are on the verge of fucking each other.

This is making Katies entire character arc to be the single most pointless thing ever because none of it matters anymore.

May aswell have Monica go down on them both, that makes as much sense.

The worst part, for me ... because I was doing it, is the fact I spent the past..... year or so?

About that long?

Telling everyone there is no harem, mocking people, arguing with people, mocking and arguing with people .... to pop in today and find out I was made out to be a complete and utter lying bitch because it is a harem game it's just not labelled and skirting saying "well, he may be fucking all these women but he's going to be a nasty cheater ... but still fucking them all"......

I'm annoyed for 3 reasons. When I was first told this wasn't a harem game, i'd stopped playing. I stopped because, unpopular opinion, unless it's full poly with everyone involved I find basic harems to be boring as fuck and this was looking like a harem game at one point.

Then I was hit with the old, choices will matter. Cheating has concequences. I fell for it. Here I was, expecting a glorious fall out like Become a Rockstar which is what I thought all the suspicion points were building up to which made choices matter because they had consequences.

Only, they don't as I just found out. So I feel lied to from that alone.

Then I spend all this time backing that dev up and telling everyone else there is no harem which now makes me out to be a liar and that does piss me right the fuck off.

Lastly, story and character development matter to me. If I wanted porn i'd go to Pornhub, I play these because they have plot and characters I care about. So when I play a game that's stretched out for a few years and watch these characters grow and certain developments happen only to find out they are utterly pointless it kinda kills it for me. Regardless of knowledge of events, having a character, in this case multiple characters, all dislike the idea of sharing then have them either join groups for the very purpose of sharing or still have the MC banging half the world it ruins the development of that character and renders it pointless. Whether they are aware of said sharing or not they are still sharing their man with multiple partners. That development only works if there is follow through and consequences, which there aren't as said to me here.

So now I know where it's going. I apologise to everyone i've argued with over this and especially those i've mocked. I was very wrong.

Now i'm going to find some wine because this has been a fucking depressing evening and this bitch needs a drink ...... or the whole fucking bottle.

 

[lordofhirunds]

I don't understand why a plot that works, you want to change it by twisting it. We are on the twenty-third update that has just come out and we hope it will come soon, maybe as early as tomorrow the twenty-fourth . Hardly has a Vn enthralled so many and so many, forcing us to become detectives, lawyers and especially Romeos given the characters that were being proposed as they came along. We fell in love with Monica, Kate and Jenna, Angela, Wanda, Theresa, Natasha, Debbi, Lily, Jolina, Elaine and Bella changing feelings to love-hate as needed. Now we are wondering which of Joline and Bella to fuck off. I ask Cheeky and Ace why Jenna warns Mc that she found something strange in Jolina's laptop, but then nothing more was heard of it? Did I miss any passages? Sorry these are only my considerations and not not an accusation. Good Sunday

 

[acewinz]

I don't understand why a plot that works, you want to change it by twisting it. We are on the twenty-third update that has just come out and we hope it will come soon, maybe as early as tomorrow the twenty-fourth . Hardly has a Vn enthralled so many and so many, forcing us to become detectives, lawyers and especially Romeos given the characters that were being proposed as they came along. We fell in love with Monica, Kate and Jenna, Angela, Wanda, Theresa, Natasha, Debbi, Lily, Jolina, Elaine and Bella changing feelings to love-hate as needed. Now we are wondering which of Joline and Bella to fuck off. I ask Cheeky and Ace why Jenna warns Mc that she found something strange in Jolina's laptop, but then nothing more was heard of it? Did I miss any passages? Sorry these are only my considerations and not not an accusation. Good Sunday

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[Avaron1974]

Sorry you feel we sold you a bill of goods you didn't want.

Completely missed the point.

It's not a matter of being something I didn't want, it's that what you told us and what is happening are 2 different things and by extension those of us that have had your back against people giving you shit for certain things have been made out to be liars.

First the thing with katie and Jenna. That was never foreshadowed, there was even the whole break up thing and Cheeky saying he wanted to avoid anything that would damage the Patreon or any incest which was one of the reasons for the plot changed at the start. Now this wasn't my hill to die on but other people backed you devs up telling people Katie and Jenna wouldn't happen. Now what happens in game and what was told to us are 2 different things and now those people look like liars.

You specifically told me there was no harem so I fought your corner for a year + now for every person that come here giving you shit I had your back. I mocked people, I argued with people and got thread bans because I was backing up what you were saying.

Now I come here only to find out i've been made out to be a liar and i've fallen out with people and got all those warnings for no fucking reason.

So for over a year i've been defending your choices with the game only for it to be a lie. Raven even stopped working on his guide based on what you were saying when it wouldn't have mattered. Still ending up with all those people is a harem whether you want to call it that or not so Raven stopped his guide for no reason and I shit on people for no reason.

After all that this....

Sorry you feel we sold you a bill of goods you didn't want.

Is the response you decide to give me.....

There is no middle finger big enough.

 

[lordofhirunds]

Thanks ACE

 

[acewinz]

Completely missed the point.

It's not a matter of being something I didn't want, it's that what you told us and what is happening are 2 different things and by extension those of us that have had your back against people giving you shit for certain things have been made out to be liars.

First the thing with katie and Jenna. That was never foreshadowed, there was even the whole break up thing and Cheeky saying he wanted to avoid anything that would damage the Patreon or any incest which was one of the reasons for the plot changed at the start. Now this wasn't my hill to die on but other people backed you devs up telling people Katie and Jenna wouldn't happen. Now what happens in game and what was told to us are 2 different things and now those people look like liars.

You specifically told me there was no harem so I fought your corner for a year + now for every person that come here giving you shit I had your back. I mocked people, I argued with people and got thread bans because I was backing up what you were saying.

Now I come here only to find out i've been made out to be a liar and i've fallen out with people and got all those warnings for no fucking reason.

So for over a year i've been defending your choices with the game only for it to be a lie. Raven even stopped working on his guide based on what you were saying when it wouldn't have mattered. Still ending up with all those people is a harem whether you want to call it that or not so Raven stopped his guide for no reason and I shit on people for no reason.

After all that this....



Is the response you decide to give me.....

There is no middle finger big enough.

There is no harem, but I guess our definitions are different.

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[dempun]

To think that everything started when somebody misspelled her surname. Yep Zarah surname is Dazinski not Dizinski

Yeah, in my own defense of suspecting Zarah, at the time it seemed the thing to do. ...

 

[Avaron1974]

There is no harem, but I guess our definitions are different.

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You're arguing a technicality.

When you tell people there is no harem it makes it seem like you have to choose who you end up with. When you build characters like Monica and Elaine that would in no way agree to anything like that you set up a certain way of thinking.

The simple fact is, there is no choice to be made. Whether they are aware of each other or not is a technicality it's still a harem. You still have all the girls and there was no choice to be made.

I've spent all this time running in here like MemeMcBitchalot and shooting everyone down that gave you shit when they will be getting the very thing I told them they wouldn't be getting.

That's what i'm annoyed about.

If you'd been straight with me back then and told me all this I wouldn't have been here giving people shit for the shit they were giving you and Zoey could have kept up with hsi guide that he stopped because of the no harem thing.

Technically it's not a harem because they don't all live together but technically it is because you still end up with them all.

I'm annoyed because i've spent all this time being a cunt to people backing YOU up over a technicality that would give them the very thing I was telling them they wouldn't be getting just under a different name.

I just really don't appreciate being made out to be a liar. I really fucking hate liars yet you quite happily made me one.

 

[Machete]

You're arguing a technicality.

When you tell people there is no harem it makes it seem like you have to choose who you end up with. When you build characters like Monica and Elaine that would in no way agree to anything like that you set up a certain way of thinking.

The simple fact is, there is no choice to be made. Whether they are aware of each other or not is a technicality it's still a harem. You still have all the girls and there was no choice to be made.

I've spent all this time running in here like MemeMcBitchalot and shooting everyone down that gave you shit when they will be getting the very thing I told them they wouldn't be getting.

That's what i'm annoyed about.

If you'd been straight with me back then and told me all this I wouldn't have been here giving people shit for the shit they were giving you and Zoey could have kept up with hsi guide that he stopped because of the no harem thing.

Technically it's not a harem because they don't all live together but technically it is because you still end up with them all.

I'm annoyed because i've spent all this time being a cunt to people backing YOU up over a technicality that would give them the very thing I was telling them they wouldn't be getting just under a different name.

I just really don't appreciate being made out to be a liar. I really fucking hate liars yet you quite happily made me one.

Actually i think it was already mentioned that there could have been team-ups and mini harems. Assuming, something like Angel + Wanda (i really miss the girls, they deserved more content, but i understand that the game forked so much that it's not easy to fit everything in now), Jolina + Jenna, Lily + Debby or even a L+D+Katie far stretched trio.

But i agree with you that at this point all the ladies seem very open to the role of cuckquean, more then expected, and that Jenna and Katie willing to share with each other seems a bit too much and out of characters.

I guess you can't really make your mind about a fictional product until it's complete. See how things went in the end with Game of Trones.

I'm personally happy to be able for spread the seed in this game, like secretely banging Porshe on the backstage or Possible Legal Action Quasi-Scarlet Johanson, but i'm on your side thinking that it had become too easy and too open.

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

I remember Leap of Faith, in the first 4 chapters you can fool around with every chick of the game, with someone just teasing, others a kiss and others even sex (and, by definition, the first 4 chapters are HAREM style). Then the game itself lead you to a choice, from that point the story develops around the girl you choose and only her, while keep interacting with all the other girls only as friends (in fact, even if you want to be a cheater, you can't because the game itself forbid you from doing that). According to the girl you choose, if you play the cards well, you can end up with a 2some or 3some where everyone knows about the other and they are fine with it.
Back to WTHI, as long as you are able to be with every girl, whether they are aware of each other or not, is HAREM by definition.
You can argue about the fact that in this case is not an harem because you basically are cheating everyone with everyone, but is just a semantic issue.
If you devs don't want us to consider this game a harem, then the famous BIG choice must happen before anything serious happen between the MC and any of the girls.
Of course, after the decision you can always make ground for 3some, 4some or mini harems (like Katie/Lily/Debbie, or Jenna/whoever or Monica/Zarah) according to what the story itself requires.
I hope I made myself clear, English is not my mother tongue, so apologize for any grammatical horror.

 

[acewinz]

You're arguing a technicality.

When you tell people there is no harem it makes it seem like you have to choose who you end up with. When you build characters like Monica and Elaine that would in no way agree to anything like that you set up a certain way of thinking.

The simple fact is, there is no choice to be made. Whether they are aware of each other or not is a technicality it's still a harem. You still have all the girls and there was no choice to be made.

I've spent all this time running in here like MemeMcBitchalot and shooting everyone down that gave you shit when they will be getting the very thing I told them they wouldn't be getting.

That's what i'm annoyed about.

If you'd been straight with me back then and told me all this I wouldn't have been here giving people shit for the shit they were giving you and Zoey could have kept up with hsi guide that he stopped because of the no harem thing.

Technically it's not a harem because they don't all live together but technically it is because you still end up with them all.

I'm annoyed because i've spent all this time being a cunt to people backing YOU up over a technicality that would give them the very thing I was telling them they wouldn't be getting just under a different name.

I just really don't appreciate being made out to be a liar. I really fucking hate liars yet you quite happily made me one.

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[Avaron1974]

Actually i think it was already mentioned that there could have been team-ups and mini harems. Assuming, something like Angel + Wanda (i really miss the girls, they deserved more content, but i understand that the game forked so much that it's not easy to fit everything in now), Jolina + Jenna, Lily + Debby or even a L+D+Katie far stretched trio.

But i agree with you that at this point all the ladies seem very open to the role of cuckquean, more then expected, and that Jenna and Katie willing to share with each other seems a bit too much and out of characters.

I guess you can't really make your mind about a fictional product until it's complete. See how things went in the end with Game of Trones.

I'm personally happy to be able for spread the seed in this game, like secretely banging Porshe on the backstage or Possible Legal Action Quasi-Scarlet Johanson, but i'm on your side thinking that it had become too easy and too open.

We all knew about the groups, that was never the problem.

The problem now is we, more specifically me, was telling people they would have to choose between those groups because there is no harem and they won't get all those girls.

Now I find out they don't need to choose between those groups. He's still going to be seeing them they just won't be aware of each other.

We were telling people that very thing won't happen when that's exactly what's happening.

I'm not bothered it is happening what i'm here ranting about is the fact that the dev made me out to be a liar for over a year based on a technicality.

If they had been upfront from the start this wouldn't be an issue. Zoey could have kept his guide going and no one would have gone through the shit I gave them over that very technicality.