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Yeah, the only question is why would Jolina help Bella even knowing she's going to be abandoned.
If Jolina is helping Bella even though she knows Bella is going to dump her, Jolina is a big of a sucker.
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If Jolina is helping Bella even though she knows Bella is going to dump her, Jolina is a big of a sucker.
- Jul 3, 2021
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I finally got done this update, and I have to say... WOW! Nice work! I suspected Bella, but I didn't expect that relationship with Joline, in fact, I didn't suspect Joline of anything. I am really glad that I gave the home to Elaine, that was such a nice twist to reward you for being kind, that is right up my ally to the sort of guy I like to be (I don't tend to be selfish), so kudos for such an excellent plot twist. This was well worth the wait. Gonna have to replay it again I think with alternate paths. One thing I didn't like, and it is minor, I didn't the like hair Jenna ended up going with... man, I was drooling over how she looked with the initial hair, that was mean to switch it out! 
heheh... anyhow... if I could afford to support this, I would but alas, I can barely pay my rent these days.
heheh... anyhow... if I could afford to support this, I would but alas, I can barely pay my rent these days.I swear some of you people needs therapy or something.
Unless you are somehow following a true love Bella(or Jo) route over everybody else, what Bella and Jo did means nothing.
What Bella did has nothing to do with you. You still decide to pick money over Monica or not. Your inheritance is entirely dependent on your choices that Bella has nothing to with.
I mean sure it looks like Bella screwed over her sister. But what has got to do with you. Are you playing as Elaine?
Worst case scenario you get to have sex with Bella till the jig is up at lawyers.
Unless you are somehow following a true love Bella(or Jo) route over everybody else, what Bella and Jo did means nothing.
What Bella did has nothing to do with you. You still decide to pick money over Monica or not. Your inheritance is entirely dependent on your choices that Bella has nothing to with.
I mean sure it looks like Bella screwed over her sister. But what has got to do with you. Are you playing as Elaine?
Worst case scenario you get to have sex with Bella till the jig is up at lawyers.
- Dec 5, 2021
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Bruh, man we all need therapy tbh, but You also/
Losing control and being manipulated are the worst, as example Just remember Jolina reaction after hack.. and then, they did even worse to MC
- May 17, 2020
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In short. She lies to him and manipulates him from start to finish. Jeopardising both his share of the inheritance and that which Elaine wants to give him. And all this just so she can be the one to collect the jackpot.
No she doesn't jeopardise MCs inheritance. That's on us to keep contact with Monica and girls. She has zero effect on that. If you want the money you can cut your connection with them. Done.
And as for as Elaine's share of inheritance, that doesn't matter. First of all, you are not entitled to that money unless Elaine loses her conditions. It's a happy accident that she wants to give it to you. If you fuck her over, you still have a luxury house that's probably worth a shit load. Considering it's main residence of your father. If you don't you get half of her share. Sure she tries to fuck over Elaine, but who cares. You are not Elaine.
And yeah she lies to us, so what. Everybody lies. I lie to a dozen different women to have sex with them at the same time and manipulate the shit out of them. Her excuse (millions of dollars) is better than our bullshittery.
For what it's worth; I did get irritated when I learn that she tricked me. But that's on me for trying to fuck Bella and Jo at the same time. So whatever.
But that's not the only way to play the game. Sure, you can roleplay as essentially a Satyr if you want, where you manipulate and lie to every woman you come across to get sex, basically a psychopath and a better looking version of your father. And if you do all that, you probably don't care about being manipulated, since you do the same on a daily basis.
But a lot of folks have playthroughs in which they are in an exclusive relationship with either Bella or Jo. So, if they discover that not only were they playing them from the start, but they were probably also cheating on them with each other, this would obviously sour their opinion about both the characters.
Also, Bella does try to jeopardize the MC's share, Elaine didn't send the email from Monica, she did or had Jolina send one, same thing. Sure it's still on the MC if he wants to stay or take the money and run. But it's the difference between cutting contact with someone whom you haven't met in 8 years vs someone who offered you shelter. Bella knew it'd be harder for the MC to leave if he was living with Monica, so she stacked the deck in her favor with additional emotional baggage. Another one of her manipulations.
As for screwing over Elaine, you should still care since Elaine was one of the few people who was always in your corner. And yeah, the house is probably worth even more than the money she gives you, but it's not about the money, it's about Bella ruining your relation with her. And even if you don't personally give af about Elaine, it still speaks to Bella's character, that she is ready to screw over her own sister, who was always nice to her, for money and the inferiority complex she got against Elaine.
- Dec 5, 2021
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Can totally agree, not even mentioning the fact (probably) Jo sent mail and then "helps" you finding out Who sent it, and give you camera photo to (probably) continue that wicked game knowing Why El really came to coffee shop, and then saying how much she has "helped" You all this time...
Bruh, this two lesbs can be crying after and sayin' about love to MC but... even if dev Will try to explain how much they're forced to act that way, meh...
I started over, deleted the "saves" file.......crashDid anyone actually try starting the new game? it doesn't work
For most this problem was solved with starting once the "Start Any Episode". After that you can start a new game, too. This should last until the persistent file is deleted again.
- Dec 3, 2021
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If it's like everything else, it won't be black and white when it comes to Bella. We'll get her story and then it will be up to MC to decide what to do with that story and you can bet her story is going to contradict what Elaine said.
Seeing that Elaine gave MC half of her share when he gave her the house tells me that somewhere in there, there must be some sort of `happily ever after' scenario.
Already the money aspect is taken care of as far as MC is concerned. The decision as to whether take the money over the girls is much easier now that you have 2.5 million secured. Sooooo... You decide not to cut off contact with the girls, and your share goes back into the pot. Elaine has already told MC she could not fulfill her 2nd part so that money goes back into the pot.. If Bella fails to fulfill her conditions, THAT money goes back into the pot.
Now, that's 12.5 million floating there and wouldn't you know it, the only condition met is Elaine getting the house which she already pledged that part of her share to MC... BOOM! MC gets it all. Now MC can go nice guy route and give Elaine and Bella their shares back, keep the rest and it's happily ever after.
Thanks, will give it a try.....seems like the traceback error is related to something in Chap 8.
Unless that was a sarcastic reply from a vexed developer... I was replaying episodes 21-22 because of my save-game issues (see below!) and ... I haven't even finished REplaying ep 21 yet!
Episodes 21-23 are several hours of content.
I wish I knew that before I spent hours replaying episodes. And I am now invested in my new saves as I played ep21 in December and ep 22 in April... so I have forgot much of the small drama while I DO remember vaguely what follows and that helps me make more educated decisions.
But I appreciate your efforts never the less.
- Sep 18, 2022
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Did anyone actually try starting the new game? it doesn't work
i get nothing when dbl click the icon no errors just that the game does not start
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- Sep 18, 2022
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hdd crashed installed this version but it will not start not antivirus and no save folder or persistant file
any ideas?
any ideas?
- May 17, 2020
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I'm going to stretch it a little bit and include Elaine in the comparison.
the problem with Elaine is the trust we have no reason to place in her, but her behavior toward MC is positive from the beginning (certainly taking into account the deception Bella enacts). but on balance she keeps every promise she makes to us. a pity that the real story of the relationship with young Mc will only be known by those who have a romantic relationship with Elaine.
in contrast with Jolina and Bella the problem is trust, which they both betray but with quite different dynamics
the problem with Bella is not that she is the gold digger, and that she has been Donald's mistress. the problem with Bella is that seemingly every action she takes toward Mc has a specific purpose, that of pulling him and Elaine away from their share of the inheritance, and to do this she sets no limits on herself, pretending to help MC, and doing everything she can to make him feel guilty about it, all she does is manipulate him into hating her sister. and it also becomes hard to believe her when it comes to physical attraction, is that real or is that part of her plan as well? here the developers really have to pull a rabbit out of the hat to make her version acceptable.
about Jolina the betrayal is less pronounced, first of all because at least initially she does not know MC and so it makes sense that she would want to help her old love anyway, as opposed to a stranger. the further we go, however, the more substantial the betrayal becomes. Jolina recognizes Elaine's photo just before she accepts MC's offer to host her at the beach house, even then does it make sense for her to keep holding up the game to Bella? but then especially the next morning the developers couldn't resist the cliché of "I have to tell you something, it's urgent that you know, but not now, later," and this later never comes, which makes enough sense if Bella is also a guest at the beach house, but otherwise, all of Jolina's thanks ring really false. but between Bella and Jolina there still remains a difference that at least for me is decisive: Jolina shows repentance, she knows that she is in the wrong and that this could cost her friendship or even MC's love, whereas Bella like a bulldozer continues in her scheming with some slightest hesitation.
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The thing that ruined Bella for me completely was if you turn her away at the beach house she tells you that you are worst than Don.