VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[felicemastronzo]

I think I've seen the bulk of the chapter, I'm missing some of the nuances related to the underrepresented characters like Monica and Katie

really liked it with some reservations

the part with Jenna before comicon and at the beginning of comicon (if we are not related to her) seemed to me a bit verbose, slow to get going, but it could be my fault, both because English is not my language and because I am not a fan of Jenna

Porsche, if we consider the short time in the scene, is a really interesting character, nice addition

the date with Debbie really very entertaining, of course the fact that she is among the main characters the one with the least personal time with MC, makes the date a little too dense with revelations, but better late than never

a great job has been done on Elaine, making her perhaps to date one of the most interesting characters, her story I think can be considered finished now, just missing the epilogue.

just the great work done with Elaine makes me optimistic for Jolina and especially Bella. the urge to screw them over is strong, we'll see how convincing they will be.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Seeing how MC's father was trying to use the will to drive him apart from both Elaine and Monica, Bella's condition could be something similar to this.
Perhaps Bella's condition is to cut contact with Jolina and she intends to go on with this, that's why Jolina seems so bitter when she asks the MC if he puts people over money.

On the other hand, Jolina also asks how far the MC would go for love and if he would be willing to lie for someone he loved, even knowing it was wrong. This suggests that Jolina is deceiving the MC to help someone and it wouldn't make sense for her to help Bella if she was being abandoned.


Perhaps Donald was bluffing when he said that the money would go to dog care associations in case no one fulfilled their condition, and Bella's condition is actually that she will only receive her portion if the other recipients to fail.

Everything falls into place, first Bella send the fake e-mail hoping that the MC will bound again with Monica's family and refuse to cut off contact afterwards. Then she keeps telling the MC how the house belongs him and not to Elaine and she had no right to kick him out. Bella keeps putting doubt in his head to induce him to not give the house to Elaine and make her fail her condition.

Considering how Bella seems to be trying to make the others fail makes her an even worse person if she can get her portion without resorting to this.

It's still hard to figure why she kept throwing herself at the MC so much...

it seems pretty clear to me that Jolina is referring to Bella; the fact that Bella left her to pursue money does not mean that Jolina stopped loving her.

 

[Zerorox]

Jolina should still be somewhat believable. We've seen her falter on several occasions, and has shown genuine appreciation to the player and what he's done for her. Bella on the other hasn't shown anything.

Meh, you are disappointing your Father!
Jo is Just better actress and know how to use few tears, but yeah... I know, she'll spell some dramatic story, some tears, blablabla... and MC forgive her

 

[Ariostebaldo]

it seems pretty clear to me that Jolina is referring to Bella; the fact that Bella left her to pursue money does not mean that Jolina stopped loving her.

Yeah, the only question is why would Jolina help Bella even knowing she's going to be abandoned.
If Jolina is helping Bella even though she knows Bella is going to dump her, Jolina is a big of a sucker.

 

[Night Hacker]

I finally got done this update, and I have to say... WOW! Nice work! I suspected Bella, but I didn't expect that relationship with Joline, in fact, I didn't suspect Joline of anything. I am really glad that I gave the home to Elaine, that was such a nice twist to reward you for being kind, that is right up my ally to the sort of guy I like to be (I don't tend to be selfish), so kudos for such an excellent plot twist. This was well worth the wait. Gonna have to replay it again I think with alternate paths. One thing I didn't like, and it is minor, I didn't the like hair Jenna ended up going with... man, I was drooling over how she looked with the initial hair, that was mean to switch it out! heheh... anyhow... if I could afford to support this, I would but alas, I can barely pay my rent these days.

 

[e250vhf22]

I swear some of you people needs therapy or something.

Unless you are somehow following a true love Bella(or Jo) route over everybody else, what Bella and Jo did means nothing.

What Bella did has nothing to do with you. You still decide to pick money over Monica or not. Your inheritance is entirely dependent on your choices that Bella has nothing to with.

I mean sure it looks like Bella screwed over her sister. But what has got to do with you. Are you playing as Elaine?

Worst case scenario you get to have sex with Bella till the jig is up at lawyers.

 

[Zerorox]

I swear some of you people needs therapy or something.

Unless you are somehow following a true love Bella(or Jo) route over everybody else, what Bella and Jo did means nothing.

What Bella did has nothing to do with you. You still decide to pick money over Monica or not. Your inheritance is entirely dependent on your choices that Bella has nothing to with.

I mean sure it looks like Bella screwed over her sister. But what has got to do with you. Are you playing as Elaine?

Worst case scenario you get to have sex with Bella till the jig is up at lawyers.

Bruh, man we all need therapy tbh, but You also/
Losing control and being manipulated are the worst, as example Just remember Jolina reaction after hack.. and then, they did even worse to MC

 

[felicemastronzo]

I swear some of you people needs therapy or something.

Unless you are somehow following a true love Bella(or Jo) route over everybody else, what Bella and Jo did means nothing.

What Bella did has nothing to do with you. You still decide to pick money over Monica or not. Your inheritance is entirely dependent on your choices that Bella has nothing to with.

I mean sure it looks like Bella screwed over her sister. But what has got to do with you. Are you playing as Elaine?

Worst case scenario you get to have sex with Bella till the jig is up at lawyers.

In short. She lies to him and manipulates him from start to finish. Jeopardising both his share of the inheritance and that which Elaine wants to give him. And all this just so she can be the one to collect the jackpot.

 

[e250vhf22]

In short. She lies to him and manipulates him from start to finish. Jeopardising both his share of the inheritance and that which Elaine wants to give him. And all this just so she can be the one to collect the jackpot.

No she doesn't jeopardise MCs inheritance. That's on us to keep contact with Monica and girls. She has zero effect on that. If you want the money you can cut your connection with them. Done.

And as for as Elaine's share of inheritance, that doesn't matter. First of all, you are not entitled to that money unless Elaine loses her conditions. It's a happy accident that she wants to give it to you. If you fuck her over, you still have a luxury house that's probably worth a shit load. Considering it's main residence of your father. If you don't you get half of her share. Sure she tries to fuck over Elaine, but who cares. You are not Elaine.

And yeah she lies to us, so what. Everybody lies. I lie to a dozen different women to have sex with them at the same time and manipulate the shit out of them. Her excuse (millions of dollars) is better than our bullshittery.

For what it's worth; I did get irritated when I learn that she tricked me. But that's on me for trying to fuck Bella and Jo at the same time. So whatever.

 

[Savilesavile]

No Monica

 

[Harlaw]

No she doesn't jeopardise MCs inheritance. That's on us to keep contact with Monica and girls. She has zero effect on that. If you want the money you can cut your connection with them. Done.

And as for as Elaine's share of inheritance, that doesn't matter. First of all, you are not entitled to that money unless Elaine loses her conditions. It's a happy accident that she wants to give it to you. If you fuck her over, you still have a luxury house that's probably worth a shit load. Considering it's main residence of your father. If you don't you get half of her share. Sure she tries to fuck over Elaine, but who cares. You are not Elaine.

And yeah she lies to us, so what. Everybody lies. I lie to a dozen different women to have sex with them at the same time and manipulate the shit out of them. Her excuse (millions of dollars) is better than our bullshittery.

For what it's worth; I did get irritated when I learn that she tricked me. But that's on me for trying to fuck Bella and Jo at the same time. So whatever.

But that's not the only way to play the game. Sure, you can roleplay as essentially a Satyr if you want, where you manipulate and lie to every woman you come across to get sex, basically a psychopath and a better looking version of your father. And if you do all that, you probably don't care about being manipulated, since you do the same on a daily basis.

But a lot of folks have playthroughs in which they are in an exclusive relationship with either Bella or Jo. So, if they discover that not only were they playing them from the start, but they were probably also cheating on them with each other, this would obviously sour their opinion about both the characters.

Also, Bella does try to jeopardize the MC's share, Elaine didn't send the email from Monica, she did or had Jolina send one, same thing. Sure it's still on the MC if he wants to stay or take the money and run. But it's the difference between cutting contact with someone whom you haven't met in 8 years vs someone who offered you shelter. Bella knew it'd be harder for the MC to leave if he was living with Monica, so she stacked the deck in her favor with additional emotional baggage. Another one of her manipulations.

As for screwing over Elaine, you should still care since Elaine was one of the few people who was always in your corner. And yeah, the house is probably worth even more than the money she gives you, but it's not about the money, it's about Bella ruining your relation with her. And even if you don't personally give af about Elaine, it still speaks to Bella's character, that she is ready to screw over her own sister, who was always nice to her, for money and the inferiority complex she got against Elaine.

 

[Zerorox]

But that's not the only way to play the game. Sure, you can roleplay as essentially a Satyr if you want, where you manipulate and lie to every woman you come across to get sex, basically a psychopath and a better looking version of your father. And if you do all that, you probably don't care about being manipulated, since you do the same on a daily basis.

But a lot of folks have playthroughs in which they are in an exclusive relationship with either Bella or Jo. So, if they discover that not only were they playing them from the start, but they were probably also cheating on them with each other, this would obviously sour their opinion about both the characters.

Also, Bella does try to jeopardize the MC's share, Elaine didn't send the email from Monica, she did or had Jolina send one, same thing. Sure it's still on the MC if he wants to stay or take the money and run. But it's the difference between cutting contact with someone whom you haven't met in 8 years vs someone who offered you shelter. Bella knew it'd be harder for the MC to leave if he was living with Monica, so she stacked the deck in her favor with additional emotional baggage. Another one of her manipulations.

As for screwing over Elaine, you should still care since Elaine was one of the few people who was always in your corner. And yeah, the house is probably worth even more than the money she gives you, but it's not about the money, it's about Bella ruining your relation with her. And even if you don't personally give af about Elaine, it still speaks to Bella's character, that she is ready to screw over her own sister, who was always nice to her, for money and the inferiority complex she got against Elaine.

Can totally agree, not even mentioning the fact (probably) Jo sent mail and then "helps" you finding out Who sent it, and give you camera photo to (probably) continue that wicked game knowing Why El really came to coffee shop, and then saying how much she has "helped" You all this time...
Bruh, this two lesbs can be crying after and sayin' about love to MC but... even if dev Will try to explain how much they're forced to act that way, meh...

 

[keefer43]

Unless we see some incredible demand and our patreon stops sinking into a quagmire... followups with Porsche/Evie/Scarlett will probably be DLC things after we finish the game and hit steam unfortunately. But it was something we want to do. We love all our chars.

Ya, don't forget Francois!

 

[Yamura]

Did anyone actually try starting the new game? it doesn't work

I started over, deleted the "saves" file.......crash

 

[J.R.]

I started over, deleted the "saves" file.......crash

For most this problem was solved with starting once the "Start Any Episode". After that you can start a new game, too. This should last until the persistent file is deleted again.

 

[dempun]

Can totally agree, not even mentioning the fact (probably) Jo sent mail and then "helps" you finding out Who sent it, and give you camera photo to (probably) continue that wicked game knowing Why El really came to coffee shop, and then saying how much she has "helped" You all this time...
Bruh, this two lesbs can be crying after and sayin' about love to MC but... even if dev Will try to explain how much they're forced to act that way, meh...

If it's like everything else, it won't be black and white when it comes to Bella. We'll get her story and then it will be up to MC to decide what to do with that story and you can bet her story is going to contradict what Elaine said.

Seeing that Elaine gave MC half of her share when he gave her the house tells me that somewhere in there, there must be some sort of `happily ever after' scenario.

Already the money aspect is taken care of as far as MC is concerned. The decision as to whether take the money over the girls is much easier now that you have 2.5 million secured. Sooooo... You decide not to cut off contact with the girls, and your share goes back into the pot. Elaine has already told MC she could not fulfill her 2nd part so that money goes back into the pot.. If Bella fails to fulfill her conditions, THAT money goes back into the pot.

Now, that's 12.5 million floating there and wouldn't you know it, the only condition met is Elaine getting the house which she already pledged that part of her share to MC... BOOM! MC gets it all. Now MC can go nice guy route and give Elaine and Bella their shares back, keep the rest and it's happily ever after.

 

[Yamura]

For most this problem was solved with starting once the "Start Any Episode". After that you can start a new game, too. This should last until the persistent file is deleted again.

Thanks, will give it a try.....seems like the traceback error is related to something in Chap 8.

 

[troll822]

I wouldn't bother if I were you.

Unless that was a sarcastic reply from a vexed developer... I was replaying episodes 21-22 because of my save-game issues (see below!) and ... I haven't even finished REplaying ep 21 yet!
Episodes 21-23 are several hours of content.

Hi. I added now onesmore this Mod variant again so maybe your old saves are working again, too. Download on the mod page.
Info: I also deactivated the dev. console there (in the main game it's activated by devault), maybe that helps to get not thrown out of the game every time when an error occurs.

I wish I knew that before I spent hours replaying episodes. And I am now invested in my new saves as I played ep21 in December and ep 22 in April... so I have forgot much of the small drama while I DO remember vaguely what follows and that helps me make more educated decisions.
But I appreciate your efforts never the less.

 

[stillspiff]

Did anyone actually try starting the new game? it doesn't work

i get nothing when dbl click the icon no errors just that the game does not start

 

[dkatryl]

Regarding Jo vs. Bella:

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