VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Regularus]

Noticed an incoherency problem in the scene in which Jolina confront both the MC and Jenna about the hacking.
On the playthrough i went with, i followed the Jolina route (so her lust and relation scores are very high) and avoided completely the Jenna one : as expected then Jenna relationships score is very low in lust she is even having a negative score.

Still, during the scene when it came to the possibility of the MC having sex with Jolina while Jenna is present it was entirely possible to have sex with Jenna too, that made no sense considering the scores (so i guess for this event there's some missing score check for her).

But worse in the storytelling have some missing part : if the MC is not on Jenna's route it means this scene is her first sexual experience, yet none of her dialogues during the event or in further events hint about this, as if it wasn't even important for the character or she even forgot it ever happened after the event itself.

 

[LionHeart 95]

Noticed an incoherency problem in the scene in which Jolina confront both the MC and Jenna about the hacking.
On the playthrough i went with, i followed the Jolina route (so her lust and relation scores are very high) and avoided completely the Jenna one : as expected then Jenna relationships score is very low in lust she is even having a negative score.

Still, during the scene when it came to the possibility of the MC having sex with Jolina while Jenna is present it was entirely possible to have sex with Jenna too, that made no sense considering the scores (so i guess for this event there's some missing score check for her).

But worse in the storytelling have some missing part : if the MC is not on Jenna's route it means this scene is her first sexual experience, yet none of her dialogues during the event or in further events hint about this, as if it wasn't even important for the character or she even forgot it ever happened after the event itself.

I’m not sure i agree with your assessment of Jenna, Jenna is into Voyeurism and when you see the computer screen you can see a lot of evidence of her Kink. In addition to her obsession with Jolina, but if you did not see it you cant say you know any of her sexual experiences remember even when the Mc rejects her she still helping the Mc with gathering info. And if Jenna is into Jolina and willing and wanting to experiment, an opportunity is all she needs. and a negative score dont mean she did not want to but she might just be mad at rejection. and this was a way back into the MC heart.

 

[Regularus]

At many other point of the story, a low lust score for a specific character prevents that character to accept a sexual choice in a dialogue, the game even tells you when a character score is too low.

That's why with not just a low score but actually a negative score, it seems Jenna accepting to have sex with the MC during this event is not really making any sense, unlike when Jenna watching the MC having sex with Jolina (as at least this correspond to Jenna voyeurism kink/fetish)

And about Jenna infatuation with Jolina, it's important to point that it's not Jolina that is proposing to Jenna to have sex with the MC, it's the MC that is asking Jenna (and so it's why the score should be important for Jenna to accept or reject the proposal) to have sex with him during that event.

 

[KokoMie]

gib me those sisterss..

 

[twofacejoker]

My route is Katie and Jenna and Katie friends

That's going to be epic especially if Jenna meets Katie friends in person

 

[felicemastronzo]

I think I've really seen most of the chapter (I'm missing some side runs like Wanda alone, or Jolina + Jenna)

the content is plentiful and on average very good, the flaw that some LIs are very sacrificed, but they are the ones that had more space in the last chapter so let's say it was predictable (but equally painful)

I start with the 2 most superfluous segments: Captain Heart (and Porsche's sister), it's really late for a significant addition, however I must say that I really liked the segment, it's dense enough to make you hope for something more, on the other hand the part with Porsche's little sister seemed really empty, but maybe it's that I'm not sensitive to the "teen" topic.
other "superfluous" segment is Natasha's, but even that, though risky, entertained me, so I can't speak ill of it much more. i think Natasha could be the safety net in some otherwise sad loneliness ending.

Let us turn to the roundup of LIs in reverse order of content:

Elaine:

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Lily & Debbie,

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Jolina:

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Bella:

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Jenna:

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Monica (&Zarah):

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Angel & Wanda:

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Katie:

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[LionHeart 95]

Noticed an incoherency problem in the scene in which Jolina confront both the MC and Jenna about the hacking.
On the playthrough i went with, i followed the Jolina route (so her lust and relation scores are very high) and avoided completely the Jenna one : as expected then Jenna relationships score is very low in lust she is even having a negative score.

Still, during the scene when it came to the possibility of the MC having sex with Jolina while Jenna is present it was entirely possible to have sex with Jenna too, that made no sense considering the scores (so i guess for this event there's some missing score check for her).

But worse in the storytelling have some missing part : if the MC is not on Jenna's route it means this scene is her first sexual experience, yet none of her dialogues during the event or in further events hint about this, as if it wasn't even important for the character or she even forgot it ever happened after the event itself.

Question(no need to answer) just how far did you avoid the Jenna route?
Did you choose all choices that lowered score? did you realize not every point is a trigger, you can upload the mod and control the points but the over all choices are:
Romancing love or Romancing without love, netural, or broke-up
so if you did NOT break up you at worst are at Netural meaning sex without love or lust can happen this allows for other paths that are dependant on certain action to still take place. and that scene you're talking is in your controll I just played it with Jenna at netural at start and was nice but chose all options for no sex yea she naked but no sex but if you want sex with Jo in that scene then you will have contact with Jenna but not sex. and you can end the scene and you will not see Jenna naked so its your choices not the game in my opinion.

 

[Regularus]

On this playthrough i choose what i thought were the most no-Jenna choices as i was focused on Bella and Jolina exclusively (as with both the ending events play in an interesting way with both being then resident at the Beach House).
I did the same with the other characters, trying to only select the choices that seemed to me against their personalities and none of them get this kind of odd incoherency in their behaviour later, it's only Jenna that get this behaviour not fitting with her score.

Though as i play without a mod, it's possible one of the choices i did that seemed to be against Jenna character (as i completed previously a playthrough that was exclusively focused to Jenna, i thought i understood what the character is all about when there are choices) could not close the romance but somehow reignite it (despite i always confirmed when asked in the dialogues that i was closing further relationship progression with her) .

But the fact up from this event to the end of the current chapter 24 , Jenna will not refer or hint anymore to having had actual sex with the MC or having any kind of closeness to him (unlike when i played the Jenna exclusive part in which she often make reference to her various levels of relationship with the MC) when there are opportunities in the dialogues make me think there's indeed a problem/overlook linked to this specific event that miss a lust/relationship stat check for Jenna just there.
Unless she somehow got a nasty concussion out of panel and suffer from some short term complete amnesia

 

[CheekyGimp]

The revamp will happen for the Steam release. So, I would think this is a regular update. Maybe CheekyGimp can enlighten us.

Yes, indeed. Regular update. The revamp is a work in progress.

 

[CheekyGimp]

So since it's at the point where you will be able to marry one of the Li. I'm going to assume a time skip will happen for some of the Li like natasha or evie.

Yes, in order to fit everything needed into EP25, there will be some time jumps (not 5 years, etc. ), just enough to cover some major events, rather than the usual show-every-day approach we've seen in previous chapters. And as mentioned previously, there will be some epilogues to make sure every character has some closure.

 

[CheekyGimp]

So there's no way that we can have all Monica and Katie Jenna? If that is the case, I'm gonna stop trying to replay it and accept it.

Unfortunately not. But we've been telegraphing that for a line time. Mentioned previously, that we'll probably do a fantasy non-canon epilogue to scratch that itch, once everything wraps up.

 

[Maviarab]

Yes, in order to fit everything needed into EP25, there will be some time jumps (not 5 years, etc. ), just enough to cover some major events, rather than the usual show-every-day approach we've seen in previous chapters. And as mentioned previously, there will be some epilogues to make sure every character has some closure.

Please....just please....do a better job than they did in Freeloading Family.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Am i the only one to think that the new models look worst then the old ones? Of course not by texture standards but the models themselves.

There are no new models in this episode.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Does anyone know if the dev has plans with Mabel as a potential LI? Bad girls need love, too. But this late in the game, it doesn't feel likely that there's a route for her.

She might get an epilogue, but not a settle down and marry type of ending (she is a side-character only)

 

[CheekyGimp]

BUG REPORT

I noticed that a few lines at the commedy show refer to dialog options that might not have happened in some routes

Please share the details

 

[Bad Wolf]

She might get an epilogue, but not a settle down and marry type of ending (she is a side-character only)

You could always give the Mabel fans an ending where the MC goes on tour with the carnival and let them bang Mabel all they want.

 

[CheekyGimp]

CheekyGimp An inconsistency here.

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Thanks for this. Fixed in my version now. Will be in the next upload. You're the only person that noticed this but pretty obvious once you pointed it out.

 

[CheekyGimp]

Is there any way possible to get a harem ending because I've tried every combo of choices to get Monica, Jenna, and Katie? or Bella & Elaina?

Yes, learn renpy and DAZ, join the team... Promise to write and do the art for ALL of episode 25 and I'll let you add a harem option.

 

[Bad Wolf]

Thanks for this. Fixed in my version now. Will be in the next upload. You're the only person that noticed this but pretty obvious once you pointed it out.

No problem. Glad I can help. Been trying to go through all the paths in order to find any other things that may have gotten through QC.

 

[CheekyGimp]

CheekyGimp Wrong sayer or maybe it should say Angel:

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After the first two, I decided to do a run through all the paths. If I find more, I'll post them. Unless you prefer a different way?

Tagging me here works. Thanks