VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Joshy92]

Debbie will get her own ending. I actually like the debbie solo path (and allow her to play, the club scene is awesome) but yes, unusual and great job by Cheeky.

Completely agree. I think Lily ultimately goes along with as she is a pretty free-spritied bird...I think she is more accepting in the throuple...but then again, is it just because you're there as the MC? Lily/Debbie alone just feels...yeah, like we pressured her into it so no one upsets Debbie...it's kind wrong to me (though I do have saves where they are together if not persuing either of them).

Lily solo will aways be the best route though...you find out and learn so much about her...she truly a VN gem and why she 3rd in my top VN girls list.

Katie & Debbie are my favourites but Lily is awesome as well.

And bro, I love that foursome scene
It was so hot I really want to see more lesbian stuff between those three hotties.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

(and allow her to play, the club scene is awesome)

For me, that scene was a waste. Because of me bein so fuckin greedy, Cheeky should've gave an option to take Debbie to that restaurant instead. The one with the cool ass Frenchie. lol

 

[Maviarab]

For me, that scene was a waste. Because of me bein so fuckin greedy, Cheeky should've gave an option to take Debbie to that restaurant instead. The one with the cool ass Frenchie. lol

Hardly a waste really...don't have to let her do anything...and you can decline the striptease. Like I said, you can keep a solo debbie completely loyal to you if you so choose. Yes, the club scene is shortened if you do that...but still a fun scene all round imo regardless of which way you go with it.

Frenchie also need an ending of his own. I think we should camp outside cheeky's with banners and posters and shit until he makes it happen!

 

[Joshy92]

I want to be with Debbie, but I also want her to still like girls.
We could go out and bring girls home for awesome three-way action.

I would remind Deb each day that I want to see her Lez out.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Hardly a waste really...don't have to let her do anything...and you can decline the striptease. Like I said, you can keep a solo debbie completely loyal to you if you so choose. Yes, the club scene is shortened if you do that...but still a fun scene all round imo regardless of which way you go with it.

Frenchie also need an ending of his own. I think we should camp outside cheeky's with banners and posters and shit until he makes it happen!

That's what I did. Loyal to her, loyal to me.

As for Frenchie gettin his own endin:

 

[Maviarab]

I want to be with Debbie, but I also want her to still like girls.
We could go out and brig girls home for awesome three-way action.

I would remind Deb each day that I want to see her Lez out.

I think that's what you have to understand here. I know DS is famously selfish, I'll never hold it against him, but Debbie will ALWAYS like girls...she will always like Lily...that's never going away, that's her character, her personility, her favoured orientation.

I think to have her be with you and try and forget Lily...it's only fair to let her have fun with other women on occasion...with you present...because as I said before, while it's not explicitly stated, she is basically a Lesbian who just 'likes the MC a lot'...to deny her what she is, for the sake of being with you...seems wrong to me. She is loyal, she loves you...but she is gay at heart. If you're going to persue her, knowing this information about her...let her have that little time to be her true self imo.

 

[Joshy92]

I think that's what you have to understand here. I know DS is famously selfish, I'll never hold it against him, but Debbie will ALWAYS like girls...she will always like Lily...that's never going away, that's her character, her personility, her favoured orientation.

I think to have her be with you and try and forget Lily...it's only fair to let her have fun with other women on occasion...with you present...because as I said before, while it's not explicitly stated, she is basically a Lesbian who just 'likes the MC a lot'...to deny her what she is, for the sake of being with you...seems wrong to me. She is loyal, she loves you...but she is gay at heart. If you're going to persue her, knowing this information about her...let her have that little time to be her true self imo.

Honestly bro
I wouldn't even mind if she was with another girl while I wasn't there.
She could record it and show me the video when I get home while she jerks me off.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I think that's what you have to understand here. I know DS is famously selfish, I'll never hold it against him, but Debbie will ALWAYS like girls...she will always like Lily...that's never going away, that's her character, her personility, her favoured orientation.

I think to have her be with you and try and forget Lily...it's only fair to let her have fun with other women on occasion...with you present...because as I said before, while it's not explicitly stated, she is basically a Lesbian who just 'likes the MC a lot'...to deny her what she is, for the sake of being with you...seems wrong to me. She is loyal, she loves you...but she is gay at heart. If you're going to persue her, knowing this information about her...let her have that little time to be her true self imo.

Famously? Infamously is probably the best word.

I do agree with you that in order to actually deserve Debbie, you should compromise a bit. Do I personally deserve her? Hell no.

 

[Joshy92]

I just thought of something.
What if I get home from work one day and as soon as I open the door, I hear female moaning.
So, I go to my room and see a great sight.

My wife Katie is having a threesome with Debbie & Lily on our king size marital bed.

Katie then tells me it's my birthday present.
And for the rest of the night, I get to witness hot lesbian action.

 

[Maviarab]

I just thought of something.
What if I get home from work one day and as soon as I open the door, I hear female moaning.
So, I go to my room and see a great sight.

My wife Katie is having a threesome with Debbie & Lily on our king size marital bed.

Katie then tells me it's my birthday present.
And for the rest of the night, I get to witness hot lesbian action.

So if on that path, just a usual Tuesday afternoon then huh?

 

[Joshy92]

So if on that path, just a usual Tuesday afternoon then huh?

You got that right buddy.
And I forgot to mention that Katie & I are both dating Debbie & Lily in that scenario.
And they live with us.

Talk about an awesome life.
I get to witness some hot lesbian lovemaking all the time.

 

[Maviarab]

You got that right buddy.
And I forgot to mention that Katie & I are both dating Debbie & Lily in that scenario.
And they live with us.

Talk about an awesome life.
I get to witness some hot lesbian lovemaking all the time.

Of course dude!

Live together, sleep together, work together....fuck together.

 

[SlapE]

Okay... so I started this game and am a few episodes in, and I must say a few things. The visuals are pretty good so far, and I assume they will only improve. The story and writing has also been pretty good, although I won't lie, there have been some Monica scene's that have seemed a bit off, but it's something I was able to look past. Overall though, the story and writing has been good.

My main problem so far, only a few episodes in mind you, is the choices, or the lack thereof in some instances. There have been quite a few non-choices, giving you the illusion of choice, but leading you to the same outcome. On quite a few occasions I have gotten a choice, that both lead to the same thing, only difference being that one of the choices will usually give points of some kind, while the other doesn't. This isn't good design in my opinion, and I'm hoping this doesn't remain the case throughout the entirety of the game, cause it's the only thing holding it back some for me so far.

Anyways, I'll continue playing, and will likely give some more of my thoughts on the game as I go.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Okay... so I started this game and am a few episodes in, and I must say a few things. The visuals are pretty good so far, and I assume they will only improve. The story and writing has also been pretty good, although I won't lie, there have been some Monica scene's that have seemed a bit off, but it's something I was able to look past. Overall though, the story and writing has been good.

My main problem so far, only a few episodes in mind you, is the choices, or the lack thereof in some instances. There have been quite a few non-choices, giving you the illusion of choice, but leading you to the same outcome. On quite a few occasions I have gotten a choice, that both lead to the same thing, only difference being that one of the choices will usually give points of some kind, while the other doesn't. This isn't good design in my opinion, and I'm hoping this doesn't remain the case throughout the entirety of the game, cause it's the only thing holding it back some for me so far.

Anyways, I'll continue playing, and will likely give some more of my thoughts on the game as I go.

Good luck, this is the best game in terms of plot and the tension will keep you on edge until the end, but the sex scenes are of course interesting)))

In the middle of the game you will have to be careful in your choices, there is too much confusion.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Okay... so I started this game and am a few episodes in, and I must say a few things. The visuals are pretty good so far, and I assume they will only improve. The story and writing has also been pretty good, although I won't lie, there have been some Monica scene's that have seemed a bit off, but it's something I was able to look past. Overall though, the story and writing has been good.

My main problem so far, only a few episodes in mind you, is the choices, or the lack thereof in some instances. There have been quite a few non-choices, giving you the illusion of choice, but leading you to the same outcome. On quite a few occasions I have gotten a choice, that both lead to the same thing, only difference being that one of the choices will usually give points of some kind, while the other doesn't. This isn't good design in my opinion, and I'm hoping this doesn't remain the case throughout the entirety of the game, cause it's the only thing holding it back some for me so far.

Anyways, I'll continue playing, and will likely give some more of my thoughts on the game as I go.

Those non-point choices come into play later most of the time. However, some of the point choices also later may turn into dead-ends. Plus, Cheeky is cheeky af when it comes to certain things. Then we also have a shit ton of red herrings that is meant to twist the player.

 

[SlapE]

Those non-point choices come into play later most of the time. However, some of the point choices also later may turn into dead-ends. Plus, Cheeky is cheeky af when it comes to certain things. Then we also have a shit ton of red herrings that is meant to twist the player.

My concern isn't the non-point choices, but rather the non-choice choices. Like, when you get the option to do the photoshoot with Monica and Zarah for example, and you say you don't want to do it, but you end up doing it anyway. This is only one example, there have been quite a few choices that weren't really choices to begin with. You get railroaded into all kinds of scenes, regardless of your choice, at least in the first few episodes so far.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

My concern isn't the non-point choices, but rather the non-choice choices. Like, when you get the option to do the photoshoot with Monica and Zarah for example, and you say you don't want to do it, but you end up doing it anyway. This is only one example, there have been quite a few choices that weren't really choices to begin with. You get railroaded into all kinds of scenes, regardless of your choice, at least in the first few episodes so far.

That's actually only a choice meant for being on Monica's path. The non-choice of it means that you only did it to help her and Zarah out so they could save their business. So, it actually matters for both.

 

[SlapE]

That's actually only a choice meant for being on Monica's path. The non-choice of it means that you only did it to help her and Zarah out so they could save their business. So, it actually matters for both.

Yeah I just don't like these types of choices, I would much rather just have a few bigger choices, that are more of a clear, I want to pursue this girl or not. When I get a lot of these smaller choices, that lead to basically the same thing anyways, it doesn't feel the greatest, but it's the only negative for me so far.

There's another choice in the same photoshoot scene, where Monica asks if you're okay with this, and if you choose no, Zarah says it's the last one, and Monica says "I'm sorry, just one more", then you have to do it anyways... it's these choices I'm talking about. Saying yes gives you a point for Monica, saying no doesn't affect points at all, but you still get the same scene. When I say no, I would prefer to end it there, why should I have to do something I'm not comfortable with, just because your friend that I just met says so? Like I said, it's something I'm able to look past, but it's definitely a negative for me personally.

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*Edit* Oh and also right after, after this is forced on you, you get a choice between Monica and Zarah, which is also a fake choice, since it's Monica no matter what. I wanted to pursue Zarah sexually on this particular save, but not Monica, since I'm pursing Katie and don't want to pursue Monica at the same time.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Yeah I just don't like these types of choices, I would much rather just have a few bigger choices, that are more of a clear, I want to pursue this girl or not. When I get a lot of these smaller choices, that lead to basically the same thing anyways, it doesn't feel the greatest, but it's the only negative for me so far.

There's another choice in the same photoshoot scene, where Monica asks if you're okay with this, and if you choose no, Zarah says it's the last one, and Monica says "I'm sorry, just one more", then you have to do it anyways... it's these choices I'm talking about. Saying yes gives you a point for Monica, saying no doesn't affect points at all, but you still get the same scene. When I say no, I would prefer to end it there, why should I have to do something I'm not comfortable with, just because your friend that I just met says so? Like I said, it's something I'm able to look past, but it's definitely a negative for me personally.

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I get that. But you have to do it to help them out. Without that shoot, they will lose everything. That includes their houses. Not a good thing.

 

[SlapE]

I get that. But you have to do it to help them out. Without that shoot, they will lose everything. That includes their houses. Not a good thing.

My problem isn't with the story or plot reasons, it's only with the choices. These choices shouldn't have been there in the first place, if you're going to force a character or plotline on me, then do it, but please please, just don't add fake choices. Anyways, I'm just repeating myself at this point, and I'm about to watch UFC, so this is all I'll say on it. I like the game, but the choices are definitely an interesting design choice in this game.