VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Massagecook01]

Finish games are a dead business.

yeah got to find a way to milk every last penny out of your fans to keep the money flowing, not like someone can have a guaranteed source of income not like making avns and depending on fans to support you which is not a guarantee they can change their minds at any time about supporting you and you are scewed, why risk your lively hood when you dont have to doesnt make sense, but thats just me i like to live with peace of mind not everyone does.

 

[divingmedic]

yeah got to find a way to milk every last penny out of your fans to keep the money flowing, not like someone can have a guaranteed source of income not like making avns and depending on fans to support you which is not a guarantee they can change their minds at any time about supporting you and you are scewed, why risk your lively hood when you dont have to doesnt make sense, but thats just me i like to live with peace of mind not everyone does.

Think they are just trying to polish it up to sell better on Steam. I don't know why because 5-7 year old AVN's still sell for $10 a pop on there.

 

[NopeNotReal]

My assumption is that Patreon will take around 30%

Patreon takes between 8-12%.
Steam takes 30%.

but if a game really can sell 1 million copy on Steam for like $10-$15 price, that's significantly more money than what one get from Patreon.

Exactly, the selling point wouldn't be the cut they take/lose, but rather the possibility of attracting a wider audience. As you say if a game can sell a million copies, or even just a fraction of that, it's a lot of money they're not seeing on Patreon.
That being said, it's a pretty saturated market on Steam now, no? There was once just a handful of adult games, but there's probably a few hundred if not more by now.

 

[divingmedic]

Patreon takes between 8-12%.
Steam takes 30%.



Exactly, the selling point wouldn't be the cut they take/lose, but rather the possibility of attracting a wider audience. As you say if a game can sell a million copies, or even just a fraction of that, it's a lot of money they're not seeing on Patreon.
That being said, it's a pretty saturated market on Steam now, no? There was once just a handful of adult games, but there's probably a few hundred if not more by now.

Most of the ones I see on Steam are older games, some 7 years old and devs still asking $10-15 a pop. I do have about 25 newer ones on my wishlist but of those not due out till late summer or early fall. Some Devs release a chapter or season 1 and then take 1 to 2 years before they release the next chapter or season. I mostly buy games that I see here that go to Steam so I can help support the dev. I can buy 2-3 games on steam every couple of months for $10-15 but I can't give $5-10 a month of Patreon or SS.

 

[Dr. Coom]

When I shut down these women in the remake, it's in a much more brutal fashion than it is in the vanilla version. So now I still have to reject them right before the point of no return, like in the original.

 

[getcapefly]

oh nice the game is out on steam! so there's going to be another season?

 

[DarkMage73]

oh nice the game is out on steam! so there's going to be another season?

No new season, just the same game but updated with some better graphics and locations.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I've played the rework and am a bit interjected. updating the models is good, revising the settings in my opinion remains quite superfluos

I was expecting more improvement in the dialogues which in some parts were rather amateurish (eh yes, I am referring to Monica looking for what MC has hidden in his underwear).

with the improvement of the characters the various "buttons" to review the animations seem really out of place, rather ugly...

 

[JackMiejov]

I was expecting more improvement in the dialogues which in some parts were rather amateurish (eh yes, I am referring to Monica looking for what MC has hidden in his underwear).

Have you compared the new with the old? There definitely are some changes.

 

[Maviarab]

I'm on chapter 23 and the main character is more worried about entertaining the girls then he's worried about the will. I'm wondering when is he going to finally going to confront Elaine.
She obviously wants to tell him something important.
So let's get this will fiasco started already.
I want to see the 3rd cougar finally revealed.
I hope they made chapter 24 as long as chapter 23 where we're still wondering about the will.

 

[benjaminsisco2024]

I'm on chapter 23 and the main character is more worried about entertaining the girls then he's worried about the will. I'm wondering when is he going to finally confront Elaine.
She obviously wants to tell him something important.
Now I'm wondering if I made the right decision in giving her the house.
A long way to backtrack if I did not.
So let's get this will fiasco started already.
I want to see the 3rd cougar finally revealed.
I hope they made chapter 24 as long as chapter 23 where we're still wondering about the will.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Have you compared the new with the old? There definitely are some changes.

I didn't do a line-by-line comparison of dialogue. but that scene was just "wrong," it really needed to be turned upside down. now probable that some cleaning up was also done, but for me it's not enough.

 

[benjaminsisco2024]

I didn't do a line-by-line comparison of dialogue. but that scene was just "wrong," it really needed to be turned upside down. now probable that some cleaning up was also done, but for me it's not enough.

Didn't notice the changes, looked the same to me.
Instead of doing all that why not continue the story?
I woud like to see more sneaking around with the cougars.

 

[benjaminsisco2024]

Ha, I don't how I guessed it, but I was right.
Bella the third cougar.
That was like a shot in the dark.
Who could have guessed, she was after the money not the main character or both.
I kinda wish it was someone else, but what can you do, it is what it is.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Ha, I don't how I guessed it, but I was right.
Bella the third cougar.
That was like a shot in the dark.
Who could have guessed, she was after the money not the main character or both.
I kinda wish it was someone else, but what can you do, it is what it is.

To be honest I thought it was quite obvios, because as the Stepmoms sister she had the most probable connection to the father.

 

[benjaminsisco2024]

I hope if they are going to waste so much time in the remake, the choices are netter.
The choices where money is concerned, I'm talking about the will, are the worst.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Didn't notice the changes, looked the same to me.
Instead of doing all that why not continue the story?
I woud like to see more sneaking around with the cougars.

The alternatives were not between seeing the new chapter and waiting for the rework. The alternative was an abandoned game. Let's hope it does well on steam

 

[Jafo]

Well. After reading the heated discussion I decided to download and play the Beta release. And I must say that the graphics are improved a lot. Animations are not top of the bill.

One bit that needs improvement are the dialogs. You have to make a lot of choices. And being an amateur in programming I don't know if they have all aan impact on the game.

So yes, the game is improving, but no I still don't become a Patreon.

Hope the dev finish ep 25 soon........

 

[Abhai]

Well. After reading the heated discussion I decided to download and play the Beta release. And I must say that the graphics are improved a lot. Animations are not top of the bill.

One bit that needs improvement are the dialogs. You have to make a lot of choices. And being an amateur in programming I don't know if they have all aan impact on the game.

So yes, the game is improving, but no I still don't become a Patreon.

Hope the dev finish ep 25 soon........

nope...it is great the way it is - not many games have that number of small, medium, and big choices of which all have impact, based on their importance ofc.

reading that you arent yet quite satisfied due to "too many choices" is one of the most laughable things i have read around...that is why f95z is such a great place - one day you think you have seen it all, then another day boooom - comes this user with completely fresh "insight".

your decision to "still don't become a Patreon" surely is a hard blow to the game/dev...we can only hope he will do everything he can to further please you and meet your gaming standards...

 

[Maviarab]

Ha, I don't how I guessed it, but I was right.
Bella the third cougar.
That was like a shot in the dark.
Who could have guessed, she was after the money not the main character or both.
I kinda wish it was someone else, but what can you do, it is what it is.

As you're new to this VN yourself...spoiler tags exist for a reason.

Please use them and have some consideration for other poeple who may be new to this.