Akihiko-san

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I wish Debbie was my girlfriend in
real life. We would go out sometimes and find her a hot babe to have sex with.
Then I would watch and jack off as she has hot lesbian sex.
That's one of my kinks too, but i would prefer to join at some point. I like Debbie too much to just always watch. Her and Lily is so hot together tho for sure.
the only animations that are actually (that) bad are those with elaine...and the second (full) sex scene with her in general:HideThePain:
if you can improve those, would be greatly appreciated.
Agreed, Elaine definitely deserves that quality in every aspect.
 
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MiltonPowers

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That's one of my kinks too, but i would prefer to join at some point. I like Debbie too much to just always watch. Her and Lily is so hot together tho for sure.
I much prefer to join than watch. And, I was actually surprised how much I enjoyed Debbie while Scarlet watched us. Normally, I would prefer she get that ass over here and join in, but I found the performance while she jilled off different and enjoyable. Wouldn't want that all the time. But this time was good.
 

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That's one of my kinks too, but i would prefer to join at some point. I like Debbie too much to just always watch. Her and Lily is so hot together tho for sure.

Agreed, Elaine definitely deserves that quality in every aspect.
I would join in to sometimes but the thought of Debbie putting on a lesbian show for me is really hot.
Yeah, there are quite a few of the new animations that I'm still not happy with. We are gonna re-do some of them again.
Hi Cheeky I just wanted to say your game is so fucking awesome.

I don't usually jack off to these games, but I love both the story and the sex stuff in this. Thank you for making such a great game.
 
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CheekyGimp

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any idea when episode 25 is going to be coming out?? i love the game and have subscribed for over a year. it has some moments that i don't like, like the owner of the coffee shop. but that is just me and i am an old asshole who is over opinionated for a lot of things.
keep up the work man, your real fans know you are doing your best and will wait a while longer for more main content.
Thanks a lot. The plan is to expand the team (using the income from Steam to hire others), so the ETA will depend on how many people we end up with. so at this stage, I can't give an accurate estimate. Plus the focus at the moment is on the re-do / Steam, so that will keep us going until at least August. And then we will jump onto episode 25. And I expect episode 25 to be BIG to close out a lot of stuff, so will need to figure out the timelines / release strategy. But won't have a lot of news on episode 25 until Season 1 of the re-do is complete in the next couple of months. But once we start on it, the bigger the team, the quicker the release.
 

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I'm sorry if I misunderstood the situation but what is the point of remaking the game after 24 episodes?
 

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Oh yeah, I remember that now. F95's worst April Fool's ever.
It wasn't just Cheeky who was pissed at that, a lot of the fans were too. It genuinely was not funny.


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There's such a thing as standards, even when committing crimes. That's why leakers and pirates are terms used independently of each other.

Take the example of Project Myriam then.
Patreon release and a week later a public version that includes more than is in the Patreon version, and is shared here by the dev, on purpose...
The Patreon version gets shared here which leads to people questioning where certain content is that was in the previous version they played that happens to be things Patreon forced Zorlun to remove, and is put back in with the "Prometheus Patch" version from Subscribestar. This happens multiple times with the "usual suspects" complaining about content disappearing in the game and issues with mods designed to work with the later *intended* version, despite the numerous times Zorlun asks for the Patreon version not to be shared here - the Patron(s) who share from Patreon are in fact doing a disservice to the community here, instead of waiting for the "full" version from another site to be released before sharing here.

So, good pirate distributes what is better and intended for release. Bad pirate is a self-important prick who only cares about being the one to do the pirating first regardless of whether or not it's a working product.
First of, I found it funny, after a bit of time of being pissed not getting a new version :D


Second, it seems we have a totally different understanding of what is an acceptable leak and what is good practice for leaking.

I agree that there is often a drastic lack of information about the version provided on F95 (like what you described, or like when this version had no changelog at the beginning), but I don’t care what kind of version is leaked as long as the changelog/information is provided. Which I do, when I leak.
Sometimes I even just make a report so that a mod changes the first post and adds additional information about the version/game to it, when I have relevant information that is not already there.

With the provided information, everyone downloading a game here should be old/mature/knowledgeable enough to make an informed decision whether they want to download the provided version or not.

Anyone complaining about issues with the version can just be ignored because they will never have anything useful to add to any conversation, at least in my opinion.
 

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I'm sorry if I misunderstood the situation but what is the point of remaking the game after 24 episodes?
Probably shouldn't answer this, but fuck it. Just in case, any clown responds to THIS post, pretending they know more about MY situation than me,I'm just gonna ignore so don't expect any follow-on updates, regarding this specific post.... ;)

Basically, after costs and tax, the Patreon income worked out at less than minimum wage per hour for me and a whole lot less than what my real-life job is paying me. Costs include paying Cell (plus other members of the team when it was bigger), paying our animator, paying a proof-reader (when I had one), one-off payments to other folks (to save me time to help with code or write a walkthrough - two of many examples), paying for assets (in honesty, I don't pay for all), Patreon's cut, plus a multitude of many smaller outgoings. The small stuff is pretty negligible but just listing some examples, so any potential devs will be aware of stuff to consider: Some examples of very small outgoings are: Money transfer fees, subscriptions to various sites, (such as google play, MEGA, various music, SFX and stock photo sites) and (it's spread out over 5 years, so I'd consider it negligible) spending 9K on 2 rigs plus an extra GPU when one died. All of those last items ares small-fry, but just listing for context.
Plus, I have a pretty decent real-life job, so ALL of my Patreon income was taxable at the highest rate of tax (in my country, this is 52%). One of the terms of my employment was that I cannot set up my own company, so that means that I had to declare WTHI income as sole trader income, so I paid 52% on the gross, not the net and any payments to other team members, etc. couldn't be written off as a cost (because on paper, this was extra personal income, not a company.) And % of payments to other team members was based on gross, not net, so I was paying tax first and then paying everyone else their gross % (I can't expect them to take a hit on my country's extortionate tax rate.) So, that meant after Patreon's cut and tax, I had about 2.4K a month to pay all those other expenses mentioned above, including Cell's paltry wage and pay myself. That might still be a lot to some folks, but where I live (average 3 bed house is $600K), it's not.

So, I was really just working on WTHI because I enjoyed it... My real life job was paying a LOT more per hour (but I enjoyed it less), so I was never short on cash. But to work on both my real life job and WTHI, was taking about 100 hours per week. And I decided, I just couldn't do it any more, as I was burnt out after 5 years and running on 4-5hrs sleep a night. Rather than abandon WTHI, I decided to quit my IRL job and try dev as a full-time gig. The only way I could do THAT is if I get on Steam ASAP. Next week is my last week in my real-life job, and then it's WTHI full-time. If it all goes tits up, then I'll look for a new job next year and WTHI will become a hobby (but it will still get finished). If it all goes well, I can build a team, finish WTHI and move onto new games. If I finished episode 25 instead... that would mean another year working 100hrs a week. And if I THEN wanted to get on Steam, that would mean another 6 months+ on top of that. Wit quitting my real life job (gambling on Steam success), at least I have a chance at making it as a dev, and if I can build a team (using $ from steam), that will significantly speed up progress!


they need to remake the "remake game" again after remaking the game

:KEK:
Nope, we need to re-do the remake of the re-do. And then do a redux of that! Clear? Wait for the hate once I announce the directors cut version!
 
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Probably shouldn't answer this, but fuck it. Just in case, any clown responds to THIS post, pretending they know more about MY situation than me,I'm just gonna ignore so don't expect any follow-on updates, regarding this specific post.... ;)

Basically, after costs and tax, the Patreon income worked out at less than minimum wage per hour for me and a whole lot less than what my real-life job is paying me. Costs include paying Cell (plus other members of the team when it was bigger), paying our animator, paying a proof-reader (when I had one), one-off payments to other folks (to save me time to help with code or write a walkthrough - two of many examples), paying for assets (in honesty, I don't pay for all), Patreon's cut, plus a multitude of many smaller outgoings. The small stuff is pretty negligible but just listing some examples, so any potential devs will be aware of stuff to consider: Some examples of very small outgoings are: Money transfer fees, subscriptions to various sites, (such as google play, MEGA, various music, SFX and stock photo sites) and (it's spread out over 5 years, so I'd consider it negligible) spending 9K on 2 rigs plus an extra GPU when one died. All of those last items ares small-fry, but just listing for context.
Plus, I have a pretty decent real-life job, so ALL of my Patreon income was taxable at the highest rate of tax (in my country, this is 52%). One of the terms of my employment was that I cannot set up my own company, so that means that I had to declare WTHI income as sole trader income, so I paid 52% on the gross, not the net and any payments to other team members, etc. couldn't be written off as a cost (because on paper, this was extra personal income, not a company.) And % of payments to other team members was based on gross, not net, so I was paying tax first and then paying everyone else their gross % (I can't expect them to take a hit on my country's extortionate tax rate.) So, that meant after Patreon's cut and tax, I had about 2.4K a month to pay all those other expenses mentioned above, including Cell's paltry wage and pay myself. That might still be a lot to some folks, but where I live (average 3 bed house is $600K), it's not.

So, I was really just working on WTHI because I enjoyed it... My real life job was paying a LOT more per hour (but I enjoyed it less), so I was never short on cash. But to work on both my real life job and WTHI, was taking about 100 hours per week. And I decided, I just couldn't do it any more, as I was burnt out after 5 years and running on 4-5hrs sleep a night. Rather than abandon WTHI, I decided to quit my IRL job and try dev as a full-time gig. The only way I could do THAT is if I get on Steam ASAP. Next week is my last week in my real-life job, and then it's WTHI full-time. If it all goes tits up, then I'll look for a new job next year and WTHI will become a hobby (but it will still get finished). If it all goes well, I can build a team, finish WTHI and move onto new games. If I finished episode 25 instead... that would mean another year working 100hrs a week. And if I THEN wanted to get on Steam, that would mean another 6 months+ on top of that. Wit quitting my real life job (gambling on Steam success), at least I have a chance at making it as a dev, and if I can build a team (using $ from steam), that will significantly speed up progress!


Nope, we need to re-do the remake of the re-do. And then do a redux of that! Clear? Wait for the hate once I announce the directors cut version!
shit. you must be full, I wasn't expecting such a long comment, but thank you for taking the time to explain, good luck
 

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With the provided information, everyone downloading a game here should be old/mature/knowledgeable enough to make an informed decision whether they want to download the provided version or not.
Here's where your reasoning falls flat though.
The majority of people here are idiots. Whether from being too lazy or just plain old ignorance, they're idiots. It's apparent from far too many instances that happen regularly across most threads, that using the reasoning of age/maturity/knowledge for making any sort of informed decision is disingenuous.

Anyone complaining about issues with the version can just be ignored because they will never have anything useful to add to any conversation, at least in my opinion.
I never thought I'd ever be in a position to post something from one of the worst Star Trek shows ever... Yet here it is.
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