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Mytez

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Zarah really makes this update great, I hope we get some romantic stuff with her in the next updates maybe even an exclusive ending... a man can dream.
It's good to see another Zarah intellectual, to all the fools that can't bask in her greatness, look at her hair, YOU DID THIS TO HER! (keep insulting her please, she looks even better now).

I really like her and Monica because they look like proper milfs, fit but with age imperfections, not like a 20 year old that we need to believe is somehow 40-50.
 

Phalzyr

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My mod version EP20 Gray neutral choices Red Neutral choice (makes it easier to tell which not to select but of course can't tell which are - choices or not...)
 
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joypinse

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the crunched version is the full version
loaded my save and beta tester dialog gone instead "action"
so the crunched really arrived before the original ;)
 

Bonhomie

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Well that was an entertaining hour and more:

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Oh and yes - at the start of the story Monica apparently found him with the mysterious email that has been referred to several times - Jenna is trying to help the MC work out who sent that, and as it is a recurring theme, it probably has a lot to do with the plot, or not - Cheeky is a sneaky story teller.
 

Walter Victor

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The dev himself has answered this many times in the past. He confirmed the game has never been designed with incest in mind.


I think people disagreed with your opinion because you were unable to justify it with actual reasoning. You mentioned things like feeling how something is missing but unable to elaborate what exactly is missing. You mentioned how the game feels like it was designed as incest then changed to avoid Patreon ToS without able to elaborate what exactly in the game that makes you think that it's supposed to be incest game.

It's fine to have an unpopular opinion, but back it up with actual reasoning and not just based on your personal preference. I backed up my disagreement with your opinion with two main things.

1. Dev has confirmed the game was not designed with incest in mind.
2. If incest is a thing in the game, the storyline would have to be vastly changed because Monica/Katie/Jenna would be actively involved in the will/inheritance.
My 'feeling' is that there is too much reticence on the part of the participants (at least in the beginning of the game) to any kind of sexual inclinations, much less relationships, for non-family members. Why aren't these very attractive people at each other right from the start? Hence, my 'feeling' that it 'should' have been an incest game to justify the reticence.

However, I accept the developer's explanation that it was never intended as an incest game. My 'feeling' now, however, is that all that reticence at the beginning was a developer's ploy to build anticipation for any completion of sexual activity between the main characters. It has obviously worked, at least for me, as I am completely hooked on this game.
 

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My 'feeling' is that there is too much reticence on the part of the participants (at least in the beginning of the game) to any kind of sexual inclinations, much less relationships, for non-family members. Why aren't these very attractive people at each other right from the start? Hence, my 'feeling' that it 'should' have been an incest game to justify the reticence.
Because everyone is shallow sex maniacs in the real world? J/K but truly how often do you just throw yourself at other good looking people instantly diving into a sex relationship or showing sexual interest? The Mc and the girls might not be blood related but have felt like a "family" in the past. Personally I prefer way more corrupting/taking advantage of story lines myself but this game is just well done that I got into it even though it not my favourite style.
 

Walter Victor

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Because everyone is shallow sex maniacs in the real world? J/K but truly how often do you just throw yourself at other good looking people instantly diving into a sex relationship or showing sexual interest? The Mc and the girls might not be blood related but have felt like a "family" in the past. Personally I prefer way more corrupting/taking advantage of story lines myself but this game is just well done that I got into it even though it not my favourite style.
Since you asked, I don't dive instantly into a sex relationship with good looking people. However, I DO immediately show sexual interest, at least in my thought processes, if not in deeds. And I tell you what, if I were ever thrown unexpectedly into a household with three such lovelies, I would not have been nearly as hesitant as our MC! :ROFLMAO:

I do agree that the developer's premise is that the MC had lived with the family earlier, which makes them feel like family. Except, you know, they aren't. Oh well! This is the plot line we have been dealt. I certainly accept it. Just thought I'd get some of my thoughts out there.
 
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Phalzyr

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Not judging :p I just think the relationship progress was well done myself. Jenna is extremely shy so took more effort... Katie is a ... so didn't take much convincing... Hmmm MC... Well i never got the feeling he wasn't thinking of them sexually or didn't want to be involved... It has only been a couple days not months hehe... His father did just die and a lot of other things going on... Though I do not recall seeing perverse thoughts go through his head, maybe i was just thinking it for him hehe
 

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I have uploaded a fix for lain's walkthrough plus 8-11 changes in his walkthrough style to and ... let me know if links don't work... it also includes walkthrough text but if installing mod you don't need it :)
Thanks, added to OP.
 

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Because everyone is shallow sex maniacs in the real world? J/K but truly how often do you just throw yourself at other good looking people instantly diving into a sex relationship or showing sexual interest? The Mc and the girls might not be blood related but have felt like a "family" in the past. Personally I prefer way more corrupting/taking advantage of story lines myself but this game is just well done that I got into it even though it not my favourite style.
 

laflare82

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Huhmp ? How easy is it in the real world for you to have an Incestial Relation, Corrupt, Manipulate or try to take advantage of someone especially people who you grew up with before they called Rape, Blackmail or tell you to F@#k off I believe that's way more probable to happen before you can do any of the above Statement
 

Walter Victor

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I have read through dozens of posts of speculation about the identity of 'Dizzy'. To my knowledge, only @Ignatz has mentioned the one character who called herself 'Ditzy' a handful of times in Episode 10! I hope I am wrong in my speculation, since she is my second-favorite character, after Katie. But...
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Phalzyr

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laflare82:
Agreed in real life "Sexual Harassment" charges are a real fear. I've made passes at attractive women in past and didn't go so well so a bit reserved in showing affection right away even when comforting a crying woman... Actually the speed that the MC "goes for it" seem too fast to be realistic for me, but then it is just a game and we don't won't it to be that realistic :D
 
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