Thank you, I didn't notice that, I thought it was completed
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That would make zero sense seeing as the MC's conditions are to avoid Monica and the girls anyway.
Why would a supposedly intelligent man give the woman conditions that could possibly mean less than nothing if his son carried out the ones given to him?
He wouldn't, it's silly. It would instantly grant Elaine her part of the money without doing anything.
Elaine wasn't the one that said his dad made her act cruel to him, his dad said that himself. Hiw own words in the recording, he forced Elaine to treat him like shit.
Lets also consider that Monica has told a soon to be rich MC all about her financial problems. An MC she hasn't seen for years.
It's okay to dislike Elaine but Monica is also shady as fuck.
P.S. There is also the e-mail that only Monica seems to have any knowledge of. An e-mail sent from a cyber cafe now coffee shop near where Monica lives and sent by someone that looks like Monica.
Lets also consider the fact that in order for Elaine to be able to drive a wedge between the MC and anyone it would require the MC to not only forgive Elaine but be on friendly enough terms with her to accept anything she says about people he knew and had good memories of as a child. It's too much of a wild card for, again, a supposedly intelligent man to have as a condition. It would be too much of a long shot for him to consider worthwhile.
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Again, given the asshole the dad seemed to be, i expect the conditions to work against each other, optimally be mutually exclusive so only one will make it. Cause them to scheme and be cut throat or give up on things they want, all so the dad can laugh in his little asshole afterlife.
Elaine's condition to be nice/manipulate MC to stay away from Monica and the girls just makes MC fulfill his condition. And that doesnt make sense.
Elaine's condition to be nice/manipulate MC to stay away from Monica and the girls just makes MC fulfill his condition. And that doesnt make sense.
- May 18, 2018
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Hi Avaron1974
You bring up some valid Points...
So now lets ask: What would you or the rest of you do if this was a RL situation you were thrust into?
Family?
Or
Money?
What Choice Can you Not live without?
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I've got the house and the car.
If necessary, I can sell those.
I would stick with the family.
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Just answer to those three questions :
- What was her first move when the father died ?
- Is it really surprising for her conditions to be the exact opposite to that ?
- At what moment had she changed her mind and started to be friendly ?
And like reality is elsewhere, the bastard win.
There's not many doubts to have here.
It's angel that bother me. If she's effectively the third one, I really want to help her win... She don't looks like the kind of girl that would choose money over her dream. Which mean that helping her to pursue her modeling career seem to be the way to achieve her victory.
- May 18, 2018
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First move was to use steel capped boots
Second not really
Third After finding out about the will and conditions
All that said, I think that there are many a twist and turn in this story and perhaps what will actually prove to be so, May end up surprising us all.
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Personally, family. Me and my twin have been together our whole lives and she was there through all my tough spot and vice versa. No amount of money would be worth losing her.
Same goes for the MC.
He has his own home, a car and enough money to see him through until he gets a job. I have him with Katie as my main playthrough and it would mean losing her just as she's opening up.
I guess on Bella playthroughs I could go for the money. I still get the girl.
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I am about 75% positive those aren't her conditions.
It relies too much on chance and his dad doesn't strike me much as someone that leaves things to chance.
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Are you sure ?
Father "Dear Elaine, you fucking gold digger, if you want my money, befriend my son ! Oh, by the way, know that Monica is a fucking bitch."
Father "Dear son, you fucking parasite, if you want my money, leave Monica ! Oh, by the way, know that Elaine always loved you, it's because of me that she was rude with you."
Elaine "MC, I don't know what to say..."
MC "Don't worry, he said everything to me and I forgive you. Let's be friend ?"
Elaine "Oh, by the way, Monica is a bitch."
MC "What ? Oh my god, I can't live on her house any longer !"
Where's the chance here ? He's an intelligent man, you said it yourself in your previous comment. He did exactly what was needed for them to fulfill his "said" conditions.
Have I dreamed (it's possible, really) or are the clue about the e-mail actually pointing on the Lawyer's office ? I wouldn't be surprised if it was sent because it's asked on the will.
Anyway, Monica didn't sent it. Jenna would have found evidence a long time ago if it was the case, and whatever all the bad you think about her, Monica wouldn't have sent it from the coffee shop. If really she don't wanted to sent it from home, she could have asked to borrow a computer at Angel's agency, or do it from Zarah's home. It would have had been easier than founding a coffee shop with available computers. Plus, the description don't match her.
No, the only part of chance is somewhere else, where he don't expect it to be, while still probably hoping to be wrong. What the father value on people, is a strong willpower and the ability to make sacrifice to pursue what they really want.
If he's right when calling them parasites and gold diggers, they'll fulfill the conditions he told them, especially since he helped them to achieve this. If he's wrong, they'll prove that they are worthy of his wealth...
The wrote will, the only one that have a legal value, have this wrote on it :
"Elaine, if you achieved to befriend my son, like I asked you, you just lost your share of my wealth. Son, if you leaved Monica, like I asked you, you just lost your share of my wealth. [?]Angel, if you still haven't achieved to start your modeling career, you just lost your share of my wealth.[/?]
If anyone of you three still have his right on my wealth, know that you deserve it, you've proved that you effectively are someone. I finally achieve to do something of you..."
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I'll reiterare that it doesn't make any sense for me.
The father did his best to keep the MC far away from Monica and her daughters. What are the conditions he gave to the MC? To stay away from them.
The father forbid Elaine from treating well the MC. Her conditions would be to suddenly treat him with care? It doesn't follow.
It's obvious that I'm not going to convince you and you aren't going to convice me. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't see the purpose of continuing to discuss it. I'm not going to talk about this topic again.
The father did his best to keep the MC far away from Monica and her daughters. What are the conditions he gave to the MC? To stay away from them.
The father forbid Elaine from treating well the MC. Her conditions would be to suddenly treat him with care? It doesn't follow.
It's obvious that I'm not going to convince you and you aren't going to convice me. Let's just agree to disagree. I don't see the purpose of continuing to discuss it. I'm not going to talk about this topic again.
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I don't remember the exact description of the person that sent the email. But I do remember Zarah having her hair changed midway or maybe I'm confusing it with another game. Anyway, it could be a hint to allow her to be the culprit. In the end she burns both houses and you have to choose which house you save
Her hair did change, but I'm sure it was more to do with how people were reacting to her appearance in general, and an attempt to mitigate much of the negativity about her looks. I remember seeing plenty of people approving of her change of hair style/colour, but personally I preferred her original style/colour.
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If i remember correctly, Monica and Katie talk about it in one of the kitchen table scenes, how Zarah changed her hair AGAIN, now this could be just a red herring but it's kinda interesting. I wouldn't rule her out so easily.
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The chance is that happening at all.
Out of everyone here there are quite a lot that haven't gone the forgiveness route and those that have still wouldn't believe everything she says.
If the dad is the dick everyone says he is then he's going to make 100% sure his conditions will fuck someone up.
Elaine driving a wedge between Monica and the MC means both the MC and Elaine get the money, that isn't what he'd want.
P.S. I intentionally ignored the twist at the end because it's reaching and nothing mentioned so far lends it any weight.
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Like has been said previously, MC has a house, a nice car and $100,000; that's plenty to start off with. He should stick with Katie and Jenna, both of them have expressed interest in him and even slightly in each other. Fuck the dad (not in that way, eww) and his ridiculous conditions. Besides, if Elaine gets the money, the way she's been flirting with MC, he might even see some of it anyway.
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You make it sound like getting the money won't fuck the MC up. Even if you're not romantically interested in the 3 main girls, for the MC to turn his back on the only people who he cares about and who care about him for money will destroy his humanity. It will turn him into his father.
The father doesn't care about the money, it's just a carrot he's dangling in order to achieve his goal.
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Forget about the players, they aren't involved with the father decisions. They are the chance factor, the grain of sand that can blow the machine. The father can't predict their decisions, but he can predict all the others.
Elaine kicked the MC out of the house, the MC goes to Monica house, those are decisions that we (players) didn't made. And we know for sure that the father predicted at least one of them. He knew that, given the opportunity, the MC would rush to Monica's skirts. Then, they were asked to do the exact opposite to have the money like the gold digger they are.
There's also MC's thoughts. Once the initial shock passed, he completely forgot about his own conditions. There's the doubt about Monica, but it's the only decision we had to make. Whatever the route you followed with Kathy, the MC don't act like if he'll have to go, not even like he have doubt that he'll be there for a long time. But at the opposite, how many time have we be given the choice to see Elaine succeeding or not at befriending the MC ?
That she succeed or not is something that rely only on us. But that the MC will leave Monica's house or not is something that rely on the CheekyGimp .
You now are the father (I know, absolutely nothing prepared you to such change in your life). You hate both your two girlfriends and son. You think that they are totally useless to the society, only caring for your money and ready to humiliate themselves for it. And you never missed an occasion to prove it when you where alive. Even once dead you continued to humiliate them, insulting them from the start to the end of each video you recorded for them. Giving them conditions that you know are the opposite of what they want to do. They disgust you because they are the exact opposite of the strong self made man that you are ; a man ready to all sacrifice to pursue what he want.
Your last move was to humiliate them a last time, to make them forget their own desire and follow your orders a last time, to make them blow their future for your last wish, like the good obedient little dogs you think they are.
Forget about the nice girl you are, you must be a sneaky abusive bastard to understand the father. Will you really reward them for that, or will you utilize this to humiliate them even more ?
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Usually I'm all about the forgiveness route, but in this case I just don't buy it. The 180 character change in Elaine is way too sudden for there not to be something behind it.
Also as much as I love the game the Elaine route just bugs me. I'm mean one second she's the bitch who made your childhood a living hell and kicked you out of your home and then boom one msg from the father and I'm sorry from her and everything is forgiven and you can't wait to get into her skirt. The Elaine thing is moving at lightning speed and frankly it's just completely unrealistic. This is not a forgiveness route, it's an all blood has gone into my pants so I'll just accept everything you say route.