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acewinz

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acewinz Hey can i ask you a question ?

I use Walkthrough mod and it's like suggest/support "Lily , Katie , Debbie" Lesbianism path. (Beach and after it's all about that)
So if i chose don't support them about Lesbianism it's change things ? or still they go for it in next updates ?
I realy don't like lesbian content if MC not Female..
No worries. As painful as it is for writing the separate paths, we will account for the players choices on lesbianism (that is what they are there for). If you don't encourage it, it won't happen. (As in it things will play out differently, not just you won't see it.) I even hear pretty regularly from my friend Wolf Plays™ about this because he doesn't wanna help Debbie and didn't encourage her lesbianism (he doesn't wanna share her). There is a plan for that particular path. I just suggest you be willing to help Debbie (if you like her or just want to bang her) and let the lesbianism variables handle the rest. :)
 
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To summarize. Aeilion ghosted us in December before Christmas during Ep 16. We were still able to finish the update mostly as planned with a bit of a rush. January I was able to keep working on the script (but just me) and art wasn't touched as Cheeky was busy all of January hunting/interviewing artists and figuring out what we lost with Aeil. By Feb we picked up Cameo and Red for art and worked on getting them up to speed, while Cheeky worked on replacing/recreating assets lost with Aeil. By around the end of Feb we had a lot of the script (definitely enough for a beta which we were aiming for in March), but still not much art was finished and unfortunately things didn't work out with Cameo. Then came March, we picked up Cell to replace Cameo and Covid decided to make things more complicated. Red was doing great work as our primary, but real life has reduced his ability to contribute for sometime now. Cell has been doing wonders picking up the slack, and Cheeky has been rendering like mad himself, but trust that no one is more frustrated with things than we all are. Which is why Cheeky plans to halt patreon payments until this Ep is released and anyone who was a patreon since January will still get it even if they understandably halt payments if they send him a message on patreon.

Reading it summarized as that makes it even more in your face, I'd say. What a stroke of bad luck.
Also, I'm the last one to question anybody having personal problems or rl interfering with stuff, but if you commit to a project, and I'm guessing the artists aren't working for free as well, but at least get some money for it, the least you can do is communicate.
I liked Aeilion's work as long as he was on the game, but ghosting is just unacceptable.
Again, not talking about not being able to continue to work on the project, but the way it happens.
Even if you are sick, have psychological or emotional trouble etc..
One short email explaining you can't continue work and here are the assets I used for the game and done, but not ghosting, that just sucks.

Not sure about Cameo, was it? The second artist. I understand that some people really underestimate the work you have to put into rendering for a game like this and maybe even their rig's capabilities, but it still sucks for someone to commit to the work and then just drop out.

As for Red, hope he can contribute more in the future again and sort out whatever takes his time now and kudos to the rest of the team for sticking to it, anybody who has worked on a project that fell apart for whatever reason knows how hard it is to pick yourself up again and it seems like you guys had to do it three times in a matter of 2-3 months.
 
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No worries. As painful as it is for writing the separate paths, we will account for the players choices on lesbianism (that is what they are there for). If you don't encourage it, it won't happen. (As in it things will play out differently, not just you won't see it.) I even hear pretty regularly from my friend Wolf Plays™ about this because he doesn't wanna help Debbie and didn't encourage her lesbianism (he doesn't wanna share her). There is a plan for that particular path. :)
Me, jumping on any mention of lesbianism:

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No worries. As painful as it is for writing the separate paths, we will account for the players choices on lesbianism (that is what they are there for). If you don't encourage it, it won't happen. (As in it things will play out differently, not just you won't see it.) I even hear pretty regularly from my friend Wolf Plays™ about this because he doesn't wanna help Debbie and didn't encourage her lesbianism (he doesn't wanna share her). There is a plan for that particular path. I just suggest you be willing to help Debbie (if you like her or just want to bang her) and let the lesbianism variables handle the rest. :)
"I just suggest you be willing to help Debbie (if you like her or just want to bang her) and let the lesbianism variables handle the rest. :) "

Nope. Nope. NOPE! I'm not helping her to do that. (n)
 

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Hey, botc76 just because 90+% of all other perverts are into lesbianism, doesn't mean the other few % are dumbasses or something. We're ALL perverts in one way or the other.
wth, where did you get those 90+% there?
it could be something as in the ntr-case - there is not that many of them, yet they are the loud ones:sneaky:
joking aside, lesbianism could be hot thing, and i dont mind it, except in these games where my true selfish:cautious: nature emerges, and i just want them all for myself, and im not sharing any of "my" chicks with anyone (sorry, other chicks included):p
and, as it has been stated already, im not that much into threesomes and similar multisomes, so no sharing even there:cool:
 

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To summarize. Aeilion ghosted us in December before Christmas during Ep 16. We were still able to finish the update mostly as planned with a bit of a rush.
I don't suppose Aeilion was an artist for Lexi also? Nearly the same thing happened with the dev for Lexi. The main artist suddenly found religion, ghosted and deleted all the assets. The main dev had had a tough time trying to recreate the assets to look like the original characters. Like botc76 said, if someone decides they don't want to work on a project any more that kind of stinks for the dev, but it happens. But to ghost the dev and delete all your work, that is just takes it to an all new level of callousness.
 
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acewinz So you suggest players to "courage Lesbianism" path like all girls ? like we make them love each other and go for "Foursome" or like i chose discourage all girls about Lesbianism but still Debbie is in the women and which path we chose we can't change the fact about Debbie and can't have her i guess.
i chose "discourage lesbianism" for all girls but still said Debbie "i can help you about Lily" at first and later she asked for help in MC's home i said "I don't want to help you because i want you for my self" and yet still she said "i have a crush for Lily i need to see if it is love or just crush" and MC said "okey i can help you" and arrange a hotel and beach house private party.
so it's mean if we don't encourage Lily about Lesbianism Debbie can't get her and just accept MC ? or they still going to be together but players who don't encourage "Lesbianism" don't see it ?
 

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wth, where did you get those 90+% there?
it could be something as in the ntr-case - there is not that many of them, yet they are the loud ones:sneaky:
joking aside, lesbianism could be hot thing, and i dont mind it, except in these games where my true selfish:cautious: nature emerges, and i just want them all for myself, and im not sharing any of "my" chicks with anyone (sorry, other chicks included):p
and, as it has been stated already, im not that much into threesomes and similar multisomes, so no sharing even there:cool:
I only say that because it's what I'm told. Even acewinz tells me that shit. lol Anyway, I stated my point about it. The whole NTR shit I stay away from. I think people who enjoy that shit, needs their heads examined.
 

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acewinz So you suggest players to "courage Lesbianism" path like all girls ? like we make them love each other and go for "Foursome" or like i chose discourage all girls about Lesbianism but still Debbie is in the women and which path we chose we can't change the fact about Debbie and can't have her i guess.
i chose "discourage lesbianism" for all girls but still said Debbie "i can help you about Lily" at first and later she asked for help in MC's home i said "I don't want to help you because i want you for my self" and yet still she said "i have a crush for Lily i need to see if it is love or just crush" and MC said "okey i can help you" and arrange a hotel and beach house private party.
so it's mean if we don't encourage Lily about Lesbianism Debbie can't get her and just accept MC ? or they still going to be together but players who don't encourage "Lesbianism" don't see it ?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you say, bro. I'll fix the 'broken' things later. Ahahaha But, seriously, it's already written they we would be the 'consolation prize'. Banter or not. :p So that means 'second choice'. No other way to look at it.
 
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Ty for info and quick answers because i realy don't like forced scenes and if i don't encourage them then i don't want to see it.

But knowing if we don't chose to encourage they are not going together kinda relieved me :D it's feel like "Player's choice make difference" and giving choice not forced kinda make this more perfect.

Because so many other games if you don't encourage or don't want to see you can skip it but it's still happening in background they are being together but only 1 difference they don't show it to player but still happening but you write it's not like that kinda relieved me :D
And sorry about my questions i don't want to be a picky one but i just realy curious about that..
 

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Hey, botc76 just because 90+% of all other perverts are into lesbianism, doesn't mean the other few % are dumbasses or something. We're ALL perverts in one way or the other.
Certainly not, but your post felt so pointless, after several others had already mentioned the same. :cool:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you say, bro. I'll fix the 'broken' things later. Ahahaha But, seriously, it's already written they we would be the 'consolation prize'. Banter or not. :p So that means 'second choice'. No other way to look at it.
You really DO hunt that topic to the death, don't you?
 
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wth, where did you get those 90+% there?
it could be something as in the ntr-case - there is not that many of them, yet they are the loud ones:sneaky:
joking aside, lesbianism could be hot thing, and i dont mind it, except in these games where my true selfish:cautious: nature emerges, and i just want them all for myself, and im not sharing any of "my" chicks with anyone (sorry, other chicks included):p
and, as it has been stated already, im not that much into threesomes and similar multisomes, so no sharing even there:cool:
Yeah, considering that most games centred on Lesbians struggle or fail completely, I hardly think it's that many.
In the case of WTHI, even with Debbie, we are not really talking lesbian sex, we are talking about three- or even four-somes including 2 or 3 girls, now the numbers of guys who think that is hot might actually be pretty high, but like you and a few others have pointed out, not everybody likes it, especially not all the time.

And that's completely fine, but for now the topic seems to be a bit overabundant in the last few pages here. ;)
 

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Yeah, considering that most games centred on Lesbians struggle or fail completely, I hardly think it's that many.
In the case of WTHI, even with Debbie, we are not really talking lesbian sex, we are talking about three- or even four-somes including 2 or 3 girls, now the numbers of guys who think that is hot might actually be pretty high, but like you and a few others have pointed out, not everybody likes it, especially not all the time.

And that's completely fine, but for now the topic seems to be a bit overabundant in the last few pages here. ;)
Like i write before i just started over again and i come to beach part and that part is totally about "Support Lesbianism" and in 16 ep there is no scene yet but i just get curious about it's change anything and ask that.
Sorry for my curious but just wanted to know about it and acewinz answered all my questions so ty.
 
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The more thinking , more suspicious :D my Bella & Jolina or Jolina hired for MC can't take anything from inheritance theory is kinda make sense.. and Jolina said "i am into womens" to get rid of Dog boy so it's might be true :D
2.Picture is kinda distraction she try to create to take suspicious over her self.
It's all theory ofc.
 
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