Cigar-Ferras

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Put down your pitchfork. She is exactly the same as before. Nothing changed. She was rebuild (do not mistake this for remodeling, it's not) in Gen 8 to the exact shape of what she had before with slight fix to her proportions. You'll see for yourself.

Also I would like to point out how badly you understand human proportions and especially female proportions in general. I would suggest you take a proper look at photos of real female bodies, not the crap people are creating in daz and see for yourself how mistaken you are on almost all points.
To be fair, i think he was joking around. ;) He does love him some Katie, who doesn't right? (She is BAE after all, just saying) (y)
 

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Also I would like to point out how badly you understand human proportions and especially female proportions in general. I would suggest you take a proper look at photos of real female bodies, not the crap people are creating in daz and see for yourself how mistaken you are on almost all points.
I agree it's too soon to talk about something i haven't seen yet, but please try keep her, especially her face as close as possible to previous version.
As for the female proportions... well i used to work as photo assistant about 10 years ago and i had my fair amount of female body examples. The guy who ran the studio was always looking for girls with thin necks, narrow shoulders and a bit wider hips when there was a lingerie shoot, cos they ended up more feminine than the starving skeletons or the crossfit chicks most agencies had. Since those days my idea of the perfect female body has been a blend of Bella and Katie. I'm so frustrated i can't draw for shit so i can draw it and show the people the tiny differences which in my eye make perfection. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say so it's normal for different people to have different taste in women.

Don't take it as an attack, but as compliment for the great work so far ;) When people start getting so obsessed with fictional character like it's living and breathing, then that's a really nice job :)
 
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I agree it's too soon to talk about something i haven't seen yet, but please try keep her, especially her face as close as possible to previous version.
As for the female proportions... well i used to work as photo assistant about 10 years ago and i had my fair amount of female body examples. The guy who ran the studio was always looking for girls with thin necks, narrow shoulders and a bit wider hips when there was a lingerie shoot, cos they ended up more feminine than the starving skeletons or the crossfit chicks most agencies had. Since those days my idea of the perfect female body has been a blend of Bella and Katie. I'm so frustrated i can't draw for shit so i can draw it and show the people the tiny differences which in my eye make perfecation.
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I agree it's too soon to talk about something i haven't seen yet, but please try keep her, especially her face as close as possible to previous version.
As for the female proportions... well i used to work as photo assistant about 10 years ago and i had my fair amount of female body examples. The guy who ran the studio was always looking for girls with thin necks, narrow shoulders and a bit wider hips when there was a lingerie shoot, cos they ended up more feminine than the starving skeletons or the crossfit chicks most agencies had. Since those days my idea of the perfect female body has been a blend of Bella and Katie. I'm so frustrated i can't draw for shit so i can draw it and show the people the tiny differences which in my eye make perfecation.
I understand. Female bodies created in Daz are for the most part very badly proportioned and can definitely impact your perception.

Also I'd like to address the narrow shoulders thing.

It's true that women have a much broader pelvic bone than men since they can get pregnant and give birth to a child. This fact alone has major consequences throughout their body. It means women's hip line is the broadest part of their body and in contrast their waist line is the narrowest. However, the overall female silhouette is an hourglass, which means that women's shoulders are somewhat as broad as their hips.

With all the above said, if we deep dive into the different ethnic groups we will find out that is not universal. For Caucasian type it's definitely as I described it. For Asian type it's different. Petite, smaller breasts and narrower hips. But if we look at African type, women's shoulders tend to be on average broader then their hips which makes them to a certain degree better at some sports.
 
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Abhai

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I understand. Female bodies created in Daz are for the most part very badly proportioned and can definitely impact your perception.

Also I'd like to address the narrow shoulders thing.

It's true that women have a much broader pelvic bone than men since they can get pregnant and give birth to a child. This fact alone has major consequences throughout their body. It means women's hip line is the broadest part of their body and in contrast their waist line is the narrowest. However, the overall female silhouette is an hourglass, which means that women's shoulders are somewhat as broad as their hips.

With all the above said, if we deep dive into the different ethnic groups we will find out that is not universal. For Caucasian type it's definitely as I described it. For Asian type it's different. Petite, smaller breasts and narrower hips. But if we look at African type, women's shoulders tend to be on average broader then their hips which makes them to a certain degree better at some sports.
to not overly dry hump this subject, i think we all know how perfect woman should look like, neverminding her ethnicity
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with her, you cant stay "dry", thats sure thing :p
 

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Yup. Basically it all narrows down to evolution according to the local conditions. And it's normal for males to find females with the best genetic traits for their local zone most appealing and some of the best evolutionary traits from other regions as not so appealing.
For example, i have always had a soft spot for tall girls and long legs. So i was naturally attracted to women from Netherlands as they combine the typical euro traits with above average height. About a month ago i found out that it's actually the people of South Sudan who are on average the tallest on earth. Turns out long, skinny limbs (and thus taller body as a whole) is nature's answer to cooling the body and saving energy. While i love that most women there are 1.80m and above, them weighing 50kg is just repulsing to me. It's like meeting a skeleton. Over here in Europe for the most part such physique is associated with diseases and most people pass on too skinny girls.
 
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Hehe. I mainly asked about that particular Jenna scene because I felt it was one of the more emotional breakups that I hoped would have anyone who saw it rolling back to change their mind. ;)
 
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Hehe. I mainly asked about that particular Jenna scene because I felt it was one of the more emotional breakups that I hoped would have anyone who saw it rolling back to change their mind. ;)
I looked through the images of the episode and saw her upset and was like.... "Nope" .... not doing it. I'm sure i'll get around to breaking her poor young heart at some point though. :(
 

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Hehe. I mainly asked about that particular Jenna scene because I felt it was one of the more emotional breakups that I hoped would have anyone who saw it rolling back to change their mind. ;)
I guess I really am a masochist since I am now going to check out this scene
 
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Jenna is such a nice and innocent character to begin with. On my solo Katie run i kind of let her down then and there on the first chance to do so and that was bad enough! I think i'm gonna need to dig deep and go cold steel for the forth coming misadventures.
 

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I haven't broken up with anyone but in my playthrough where i'm concentrating on just the sisters, Zarah hates me with a god like passion. I'm hoping that doesn't screw up Monica's business...

I'd rather not start than start and then say no.
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