VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

[Avaron1974]

Simple, people play a game and what happens in game is canon, not what a dev or movie producer or writer of a book says outside of it. Well now it is entering game seriously so people take notice. You know it is normal for people to play a game and not read a patreon or forum to find out what is meant to be in the game, but just look at the game itself and what is in it.

Even the game says, many many many times, there is no harem.

In fact, the only way to even assume a harem is happening is if you read absolutely nothing.

Lily says she wants Mc to herself, Bella says she wants MC to herself, Monica warns him not to touch her kids, Katie warns him not to touch her mother or sister, Jolina is looking for a normal relationship and Elaine is old fashioned and not into the sharing thing.

On top of that several of the girls really don't like each other.

The only girls Katie was willing to share with were her friends and that's gone out of the window recently with her jealousy but Deb will help if you help her get with Lily.

While several of the girls are warming up to others to make possible groupings happen a full harem would be absolutely ridiculous.

That's all in the game. While it was confirmed on the forums the game has hinted since the start that trying to sleep with everyone would end badly.

Consequences have been foreshadowed for a long time.

Like I said, the only way anyone could possibly see a harem is if they skipped every single bit of dialogue.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Hello everybody,

sorry but I have two rookie (for this game) questions:
if i download episode 17 do i also find all previous episodes?
do you have any idea how many episodes the whole game will be?

thanx

 

[Major Wanker]

I have a slight issue, My saves are not working tells me the script has changed anyone else have this issue

 

[Avaron1974]

Hello everybody,

sorry but I have two rookie (for this game) questions:
if i download episode 17 do i also find all previous episodes?
do you have any idea how many episodes the whole game will be?

thanx

All episodes are included.

There are 24 planned episodes but it could go longer depending if certain storylines grow a bit as they get to them to make sure they get resolved properly. There will be no less than 24 anyway.

They aren't going to rush anyway. If they need more episodes they will add them.

 

[simon belmon]

So I couldn't really tell, does the gallery show all possible scenes with a girl, or just the ones you have unlocked? does it show locked scenes if you missed them somehow? I haven't played the earlier chapters in a long time, but I always felt like I missed opportunities in this game sometimes.

 

[Zar]

Even the game says, many many many times, there is no harem.

In fact, the only way to even assume a harem is happening is if you read absolutely nothing.

Lily says she wants Mc to herself, Bella says she wants MC to herself, Monica warns him not to touch her kids, Katie warns him not to touch her mother or sister, Jolina is looking for a normal relationship and Elaine is old fashioned and not into the sharing thing.

On top of that several of the girls really don't like each other.

The only girls Katie was willing to share with were her friends and that's gone out of the window recently with her jealousy but Deb will help if you help her get with Lily.

While several of the girls are warming up to others to make possible groupings happen a full harem would be absolutely ridiculous.

I think the main problem is that the game plays like a harem game, normally a routed game would force you to chose between which girl you want to spend time with during any given day, this game doesn't, hence many people will feel like "something" will happen at one point to open up the harem path.

 

[DA22]

Even the game says, many many many times, there is no harem.

In fact, the only way to even assume a harem is happening is if you read absolutely nothing.

Lily says she wants Mc to herself, Bella says she wants MC to herself, Monica warns him not to touch her kids, Katie warns him not to touch her mother or sister, Jolina is looking for a normal relationship and Elaine is old fashioned and not into the sharing thing.

On top of that several of the girls really don't like each other.

The only girls Katie was willing to share with were her friends and that's gone out of the window recently with her jealousy but Deb will help if you help her get with Lily.

While several of the girls are warming up to others to make possible groupings happen a full harem would be absolutely ridiculous.

That's all in the game. While it was confirmed on the forums the game has hinted since the start that trying to sleep with everyone would end badly.

Consequences have been foreshadowed for a long time.

Like I said, the only way anyone could possibly see a harem is if they skipped every single bit of dialogue.

It is cute how you keep defending and how players kept getting away with it and can easily see routes how a harem could work based upon what happens in game even if it would take some finessing and some dark moments. They are just two opinions that will not come together since they are based upon different views of what happened in game and what could happen, where you have the advantage that your vision is shared by devs and you know that cause you have read the forum and Patreon and with last few updates it becomes more clear also in game.

Whether the fact a harem will not be possible will be overall a good or bad thing for game in the end, future will tell, but it is where devs want to go.

 

[felicemastronzo]

All episodes are included.

There are 24 planned episodes but it could go longer depending if certain storylines grow a bit as they get to them to make sure they get resolved properly. There will be no less than 24 anyway.

They aren't going to rush anyway. If they need more episodes they will add them.

thank you so much

how much time has passed between one episode and another for now?

 

[Avaron1974]

It is cute how you keep defending

I'm not defending anything, i'm telling people how it is.

and can easily see routes how a harem could work based upon what happens in game even if it would take some finessing and some dark moments.

It would need complete character rewrites considering it's literally against everything most of them say and their personalities.

It would be a butchering of the story.

 

[macinblack]

The sad thing is once we reach endgame there is going to be page after page of people bitching and whining about the lack of a harem ending, despite the writing being on the wall for a pretty damn long time. I'll be sure to bring popcorn

 

[DA22]

The sad thing is once we reach endgame there is going to be page after page of people bitching and whining about the lack of a harem ending, despite the writing being on the wall for a pretty damn long time. I'll be sure to bring popcorn

Make some extra for me.

 

[MOZ.]

EP18?????

GO GO GO!!





#team KATIE!!!

 

[Randeza]

so there are consequences when you sleep with everybody?. Why not just add a suspicious system?. Because atleast the three mc lives with he can ask to keep it a secret due to the will.

 

[DA22]

I'm not defending anything, i'm telling people how it is.



It would need complete character rewrites considering it's literally against everything most of them say and their personalities.

It would be a butchering of the story.

Not really there was also more than enough in most of those relations, for them to step over that and choose to be with MC instead of being alone again when push come to shove, which will happen to all the girls he does not end up with since he has to choose now.

It is not like those girls are the type who easily get together with other guys for their own reasons even if they look like super models and would get millions of offers in reality. Now that that was likely done on purpose, partly to keep shouts of another dreaded fetish away likely, is another story.

 

[Avaron1974]

so there are consequences when you sleep with everybody?. Why not just add a suspicious system?. Because atleast the three mc lives with he can ask to keep it a secret due to the will.

The whole point to the consequences is that there is no way to end up with everyone. It's not what the devs want to do. They have given plenty of clues in game that it won't end well, up to people whether they listen or lose everyone.

As for the 3 he lives with, he can't live with them if it's to do with the will.

 

[macinblack]

so there are consequences when you sleep with everybody?. Why not just add a suspicious system?. Because atleast the three mc lives with he can ask to keep it a secret due to the will.

There will be, although you've had some pretty close slipups (biggest to date probably being in this episode) and some of the girls are clearly becoming suspicious, so narratively the ground work is being laid.

 

[Avaron1974]

Not really there was also more than enough in most of those relations, for them to step over that and choose to be with MC instead of being alone again when push come to shove, which will happen to all the girls he does not end up with since he has to choose now.

That would still need a rewrite or we're talking full personality shifts just to fit a kink some people want which would still look shit story wise.

"Forget everything I said for these past 20 or so episodes, I no longer care if you fuck everyone else in the town as long as i'm not lonely"......

Said no one ever because it would be shit writing.

 

[Randeza]

The whole point to the consequences is that there is no way to end up with everyone. It's not what the devs want to do. They have given plenty of clues in game that it won't end well, up to people whether they listen or lose everyone.

As for the 3 he lives with, he can't live with them if it's to do with the will.

There will be, although you've had some pretty close slipups (biggest to date probably being in this episode) and some of the girls are clearly becoming suspicious, so narratively the ground work is being laid.

So you need to restart the game and then play every girl separate? . The grind will be alot.

What made them focus in them being that much suspicious all of the sudden?. Could work to keep it a secret between atleast 2 or more. Which in theory you should be able to keep a releastionship going with monica and the fathers ex wife or what she is called. So you should atleast be bale to have two women relationship and so on.

 

[DA22]

"Forget everything I said for these past 20 or so episodes, I no longer care if you fuck everyone else in the town as long as i'm not lonely"......

Said no one ever because it would be shit writing.

Hahaha, is it not something that actually happens in about 90% of the relations in which people cheat and they still stay together or it is for the mortgage or for the kids? Being lonely again, especially when you just finally found a connection is a painful thing and gets some getting used to and you would be surprised how many people fear being alone more as anything else.

 

[Avaron1974]

So you need to restart the game and then play every girl separate? . The grind will be alot.

What made them focus in them being that much suspicious all of the sudden?. Could work to keep it a secret between atleast 2 or more. Which in theory you should be able to keep a releastionship going with monica and the fathers ex wife or what she is called. So you should atleast be bale to have two women relationship and so on.

Mainly because that's not the story the devs want to tell.

It's a date sim style thing.

There will be groupings but only the ones the devs let on.

There is no grind either, you can start from any episode and set any relationship so there are no excuses.

Hahaha, is it not something that actually happens in about 90% of the relations in which people cheat and they still stay together

No, no it isn't, that's why divorce rates are so high.

Look, we can go round this circle all day but the fact remains there is no harem and there will be no harem. Getting a bit bored debating something that isn't changing, it's pointless.