henry hopkin

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To each their own, but personally for devs that doesn't like to include harem option, it's like kind of missing the point for "adult" games. When I play these I'm not looking for 100% realism, as long as it's 50% believable and 50% accounted for by a somewhat decent explanation that's enough in my books.
 
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ProofreadingRUS

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I do not look forward to doing that from the beginning again.
Let me know when the walkthrough mod for epi.19 is available or at least a save.
 

Sarkasmus

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Why blame the dev for your own lack of self-control or discipline?
I gotta say, in my opinion, this statement is misplaced.
I already wrote this in my review, but up until EP17 this game was very clearly designed to get it on with every single character available.
I don't know if this was patched since then (since I didn't play again), but remember the first scene in EP17? The discussion about what happened in Jolinas Bedroom? That happened regardless of wheter or not you actually went with her into that bedroom. The dev WANTED you to play around with her. The Nerd-Girl gave you her blessing, even pushed you to do it, as you would expect from a harem game.

If you play without a harem in mind, this game is frankly boring and lacks the appeal to play it multiple times every time a new patch comes out... the days just fly by with barely any content, unless you go for all the girls simultaniously. Are there ANY Events or scenes in this game you don't get to see, unless you limit yourself to a specific character? Not that I know of. So why should anyone excercise "self-control or discipline" in the first place???
 
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I gotta say, in my opinion, this statement is misplaced.
I already wrote this in my review, but up until EP17 this game was very clearly designed to get it on with every single character available.
I don't know if this was patched since then (since I didn't play again), but remember the first scene in EP17? The discussion about what happened in Jolinas Bedroom? That happened regardless of wheter or not you actually went with her into that bedroom. The dev WANTED you to play around with her. The Nerd-Girl gave you her blessing, even pushed you to do it, as you would expect from a harem game.

If you play without a harem in mind, this game is frankly boring and lacks the appeal to play it multiple times every time a new patch comes out... the days just fly by with barely any content, unless you go for all the girls simultaniously. Are there ANY Events or scenes in this game you don't get to see, unless you limit yourself to a specific character? Not that I know of. So why should anyone excercise "self-control or discipline" in the first place???
Then literally run different saves just like everyone else... This game wasn't gonna be a harem FROM GET GO.
 

Snugglepuff

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To each their own, but personally for devs that doesn't like to include harem option, it's like kind of missing the point for "adult" games.
Go ahead and say it... porn games.
This is a porn game... With a good story and enjoyable characters, and no option for a harem. Same thing happens in a lot of porn.

When I play these I'm not looking for 100% realism, as long as it's 50% believable and 50% accounted for by a somewhat decent explanation that's enough in my books.
That doesn't mean there has to be a harem.

Let's be realistic here, the people who are so disappointed at no getting a harem, that they're no longer playing or going to play the game, didn't care enough to ever read the thread or notice the lack of harem tag. They expect it. Much like the people who confuse this for an incest game and erroneously call the incest mod, a patch - they expect it to be an incest game.

This is far from the only porn game where the MC doesn't have a harem, and those who're "butt hurt" over not getting one, only care about the pics, not the story or characters. They see themselves as the MC, and all the women as theirs regardless.


I gotta say, in my opinion, this statement is misplaced.
I already wrote this in my review, but up until EP17 this game was very clearly designed to get it on with every single character available.
Nope.
It's designed for you to make choices, and those choices were always going to have consequences.

The dev WANTED you to play around with her. The Nerd-Girl gave you her blessing, even pushed you to do it, as you would expect from a harem game.
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A more sexually open voyeuristic character doesn't equal a harem. You saw what you wanted to see.

If you play without a harem in mind, this game is frankly boring and lacks the appeal to play it multiple times every time a new patch comes out... the days just fly by with barely any content, unless you go for all the girls simultaniously.
You've been playing a game under development... You do realise what that means, right?
You're getting access to pieces of an incomplete product, which allows multiple paths that may or may not block off some characters/content.

Are there ANY Events or scenes in this game you don't get to see, unless you limit yourself to a specific character? Not that I know of. So why should anyone excercise "self-control or discipline" in the first place???
Yes, why should anyone exercise any degree of self-control or discipline...:unsure:
Oh wait, because we're supposedly all adults and not kids that lack self-control or discipline!

How about, the game isn't what you wanted it to be, so do the grown-up thing and just leave it alone instead of complaining and trying to make out that the devs are to blame for people expecting something that's been repeatedly said to not be happening in this game. Show some dignity.
 

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:WaitWhat: and what exactly is unclear?
"update only" means UPDATE ONLY (not a whole game), and applying it (ie updating a game) usually requires some patching/patch.
They are 2 diff things , Update is a straight download of the game which will be small just the next chapter or w/e. Then a patch will be like incest or something u may have to fix. Thats the whole point of what i was saying.
 

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To each their own, but personally for devs that doesn't like to include harem option, it's like kind of missing the point for "adult" games. When I play these I'm not looking for 100% realism, as long as it's 50% believable and 50% accounted for by a somewhat decent explanation that's enough in my books.
So porn has to include harem..ior it's not porn? Playing adult VN's for porn is kinda missing the point also don't you think, when porn is easier and better. Now, when I and lots of others play these...we play for a good interesting adult story....

Now, curious....where does WVM fit into that 50% believability or 50% realism hmmm? Stop talking rubbish when you even contradict yourself in the same post.

I gotta say, in my opinion, this statement is misplaced.
I already wrote this in my review, but up until EP17 this game was very clearly designed to get it on with every single character available.
I don't know if this was patched since then (since I didn't play again), but remember the first scene in EP17? The discussion about what happened in Jolinas Bedroom? That happened regardless of wheter or not you actually went with her into that bedroom. The dev WANTED you to play around with her. The Nerd-Girl gave you her blessing, even pushed you to do it, as you would expect from a harem game.

If you play without a harem in mind, this game is frankly boring and lacks the appeal to play it multiple times every time a new patch comes out... the days just fly by with barely any content, unless you go for all the girls simultaniously. Are there ANY Events or scenes in this game you don't get to see, unless you limit yourself to a specific character? Not that I know of. So why should anyone excercise "self-control or discipline" in the first place???
You know what's misplaced? Ignoring the devs for literally months on end. It was never intended...ever...to be a harem. Can you idiots please stop trolling this shit. NEVER has it EVER intended to be a harem (or incest for that matter). What it IS designed to be, is an adult CHOICE based VN.

As for lacking appeal...how so? if you do solo runs you miss a lot of content. So there is always something new to see. Or, if you're really frickin lazy...use the quick episode start...put there just for folk like you ;)

Then literally run different saves just like everyone else... This game wasn't gonna be a harem FROM GET GO.
This guy gets it. Really not difficult is it now?
 

Snugglepuff

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They are 2 diff things , Update is a straight download of the game which will be small just the next chapter or w/e. Then a patch will be like incest or something u may have to fix. Thats the whole point of what i was saying.
No.
You're purposefully restricting those words to suit your point of view, when in reality both have different meanings according to the context surrounding those words, even going as far as deliberately ignoring the word "only" in the very post you're replying to.

A patch is not solely for incest. For this game it absolutely is not for incest.
This isn't an incest game, that's why there's a mod that adds it, by changing more than just character relationships, but the core of the story and rewriting huge swathes of dialogue.
Hotfixes are patches.
Bigfixes are patches.


Isn't that the whole point? otherwise why else is the option to name the MC always implemented??
No it's not the point. Being able to name the MC is nothing more than a courtesy, and it's not always implemented.

As much as a game's protagonist is our avatar inside of a world being presented, they are not us. It's not our story, it's the story which the dev guides us through, regardless of choices presented.

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Also, edit your post if you're replying a few minutes apart from your last one. It's showing courtesy to others by not needlessly bloating the thread, much like all the off-topic posts that were deleted.
 
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henry hopkin

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So porn has to include harem..ior it's not porn? Playing adult VN's for porn is kinda missing the point also, when Porn is easier and better. So...where does WVM fit into that 50% believability or realism hmmm? Stop talking rubbish.


You know what's misplaced? Ignoring the devs for literally months on end. It was never intended...ever...to be a harem. Can you idiots please stop trolling this shit. NEVER has it EVER intended to be a harem (or incest for that matter). What it IS designed to be, is an adult CHOICE based VN.

As for lacking appeal...how so? if you do solo runs you miss a lot of content. So there is always something new to see. Or, if you're really frickin lazy...use the quick episode start...put there just for folk like you ;)


This guy gets it. Really not difficult is it now?
No it doesn't need to include harem, there's been good games that's only focused on 1 FMC with side girls. Porn is easier, but immersion porn is much harder, and literally every other thing out there is step sisters and boring. As for WVM, yeah you have a good looking dude with a millionaire future getting a lot of girls, that's reasonable enough for this genre.
 
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Info: made a complete compressed (still 1.16GB!) version with integrated Cheat Mod (game Ep 18 + Patch Ep19 + my Mod v1.0).

Link is on the main page or you go here.
You're a gentleman and a scholar, thank you. No idea why this wasn't posted as the full download to begin with, but I digress.

Can you please update the gallery for this version with the old style?
Thanks.
2nd this, the current gallery interface is pretty damn clunky to work with..
 
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I'll probably wait for gallery for next version or gallery mod. I'm not about to start over and focus on one female.
 

m4dsk1llz

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Okay, I downloaded several times but the about still says Beta. Downloaded from Mega and NOPY and still the same after copying the game folder. So, is this the actual Episode 19 or it is still Episode 19 Beta 1?
 
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