VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 Rev1] [CheekyGimp]

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[MrFriendly]

Mainly because it goes against nearly ever single characters conversations, the story itself and pisses on the consequences for cheating while looking fucking ridiculous.

There are games where a harem works, this isn't one of them.

And you are completely fine with the farfetched ridiculousness of all of the women falling in love with the MC, swearing him to secrecy so that no one can know about their love, and everyone being oblivious to each other? So far there are no consequences for cheating so you can throw that out the window for reasoning.

It's amusing that you are so vehement in your opinion that a harem wouldn't work when we have 8 more updates (so about 2 years real time) that could make it work. If it is all about the writing then there is plenty of time for the characters to learn about the other characters and easily decide that the MC is too vital to their lives for them to let go. Sure some might leave but the grouping of Monica, Zarah, Katie, Jenna, Debbie, and Lily could slowly change to being willing to share the MC in some open relationship/harem idea. Some of them seem to be partially inclined to sharing anyway.

The problem I have with the "no harem ever because it doesn't make sense" is that telling a player they should limit themselves to one LI in a porn game, that cheating in the porn game will have consequences, and then releasing content very slowly over many years doesn't make for a compelling narrative. The curious case of the mystery emailer isn't exactly propelling the story forward (and isn't fascinating enough for most of the audience to try and puzzle it out, I am not sure that it even matters who did it because it won't have an impact on the MC's decision to either take the money or stay with the girls). If there is no lewd content of a chosen LI in an update and the overall "plot" isn't going anywhere then the anticipation of a new update is not rewarded. Disappointing the audience with a lack of content after 5 months (or longer) isn't going to make many people happy.

 

[MrFriendly]

I like that the game is still telling asking me if I want to be serious with certain girls... of course I am gonna pick YES... I will do this till the world burns around me... I am sure it wont be full Harem, but I dont care I want to see as many sex scenes as possible in the first playthrough even if the MC ends alone.

Hopefully multiple girls are available though in a single playthrough... otherwise some points in the WT are misleading... for example I can see these girls willing to share...

Group 1 - The Schoolgirls (Katie, Lily, Debbie)
Group 2 - Sisterly Love (Katie + Jenna)
Group 3 - The Cougars (Zarah + Monica)
Group 4 - Opposites Attract (Jolina + Jenna)

Everyone else I think will be a single girl path... I dont see Elaine and Bella sharing, and the more the story goes, the more these two seem shifty, either Elaine is the monster the MC think she is for the most part, or delicious Bella is gonna end up being a backstabbing bitch...Angel is the same, and Wanda(?) might not even have a path, she is just a dumb slut whose being used by the MC.

Doesn't matter as they are all single LI storylines supposedly. They might share in the game for a scene but it seems that only one can be chosen in the end.

I don't trust Elaine, Bella, Jolina, or Zarah. Elaine has shifted her attitude too much for it to be real, Bella sounds psychotically obsessed with the MC, Jolina is hiding something, and Zarah could be the one who sent the email and was the dad's side piece.

 

[acewinz]

Doesn't matter as they are all single LI storylines supposedly. They might share in the game for a scene but it seems that only one can be chosen in the end.

I don't trust Elaine, Bella, Jolina, or Zarah. Elaine has shifted her attitude too much for it to be real, Bella sounds psychotically obsessed with the MC, Jolina is hiding something, and Zarah could be the one who sent the email and was the dad's side piece.

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-the-heart-is-ep-17-cheekygimp.10549/page-671#post-3592229

 

[Joshua Tree]

I don't understand why you are so hostile about the suggestion, are you involved in the development of this game?

This game is a fuck fest. The entire game is full of oblivious characters (of all shapes and sizes) who all conveniently find the MC irresistible, fuck him, and immediately ask him to keep their relationship secret (Katie, Jenna, and Monica don't want each other to find out; Zarah doesn't want Monica to know, Debbie and Lily don't want each other or Katie to know, etc). But no, a harem is a terrible idea that is too farfetched because of the character development? Instead we are supposed to believe these women can all decide to fuck the same guy and all ask him to keep it a secret from each other? Or that a mother and her two daughters, who live in the same house, are all fucking the same guy and they are all unaware of that fact? They are all such sound sleepers, the walls so sound proof that they can't hear each other being fucked? The mother, when doing laundry, has never noticed the cum stains on her daughter's clothing? Or the cum explosion on the couch cushion?

The game has too many women and not enough lewd content in each update of each woman. If a player wasn't fucking Lily, Katie, Jenna, Monica, Bella, or Elaine (the most disgusting bang) this update had no content for them. And since a harem ending is definitely not happening (supposedly) that means that a player who picked Debbie, Zarah, Angel, Jolina, or Wanda has to wait or hope that at some point in the future there will be an update with content including them. After all the player should only pick one woman to be with, right? That lack of content is exactly why a harem situation, though unrealistic, would aid the game. Either that or all of the women being fine with open relationships. But nearly everyone the MC is with wants and needs to be his one and only.

However, a harem ending would be just that - an ending. There would be no sex management sim because the game would end. And it could simply be a non-canon "fan requested" ending. No need to destroy everything they've built in their game full of women who never talk to each other about sex, are hard of hearing, and like to keep their relationships secret from each other.

You know its the "player" that turn the game into a fuck fest. If you as the player make it so, doesn't mean every other player do it as well. Players have a tendency to treat every encounter as a visit to the candy store... The game throw up red flags and signs of consequence of players actions. Ignoring all signs and trudge on could lead to disaster later on, albeit the journey through the candy store can be sweet. If you turn down certain girls, and say no to certain things, you risk get "smaller" updates based on your choices. But hey, that's life...

 

[Deleted member 1713037]

Bella/Jolina/Jenna gang RISE UP!

Also Elaine is a no good trick and should never be trusted

 

[Joshua Tree]

Bella/Jolina/Jenna gang RISE UP!

Also Elaine is a no good trick and should never be trusted

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer....

 

[MrFriendly]

You know its the "player" that turn the game into a fuck fest. If you as the player make it so, doesn't mean every other player do it as well. Players have a tendency to treat every encounter as a visit to the candy store... The game throw up red flags and signs of consequence of players actions. Ignoring all signs and trudge on could lead to disaster later on, albeit the journey through the candy store can be sweet. If you turn down certain girls, and say no to certain things, you risk get "smaller" updates based on your choices. But hey, that's life...

Yes but my point is that if the dev doesn't provide content with the LI that a player selected it makes the subsequent updates pointless. If the central plot doesn't move forward, the LI doesn't appear in an update, and the player isn't fucking anyone else, what content is there in the update?

Nothing with Zarah, Debbie, or Angel happened in this update, the MC would refrain from anything lewd with anyone else, the mystery of the emailer didn't move forward (which I'm not sure actually matters at this point), so why would the player who chose one of those three play this update and be happy?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Yes but my point is that if the dev doesn't provide content with the LI that a player selected it makes the subsequent updates pointless. If the central plot doesn't move forward, the LI doesn't appear in an update, and the player isn't fucking anyone else, what content is there in the update?

That is a risk you face with a lot of these kind of games/stories, because you are engaging in a "work in progress".. Then you just have to wait for the next updates, whatever. Quite common that...

 

[jamdan]

Yes but my point is that if the dev doesn't provide content with the LI that a player selected it makes the subsequent updates pointless. If the central plot doesn't move forward, the LI doesn't appear in an update, and the player isn't fucking anyone else, what content is there in the update?

This game has like a dozen LI's, and your complaint isn't relevant anyway, that's what having multiple saves are for. If the player chooses to only pursue one girl, and have one save, that is their own prerogative. It's not the developers job to provide content for every LI in every update, especially in a game that has as many as this game does.

As for the harem stuff, the only groupings that make sense have been posted about a ton (Katie+Friends, Monica/Zarah, Jen/Jolina, Wanda/Angel etc.). A large harem doesn't make sense, the girls personalities won't allow it without some major shift in who they are.

 

[JumPin]

As long as I stay with Monica, Joline and Elaine, everything is fine.

 

[Steppen Wolf]

Hi !

I already played the episode 17 and I was wondering what happened with the fair (carnival) scenes with Monica... or is that for the next updating?

Also I decreased the love points with her.

I need the walkthrough ASAP !

Cheers

 

[acewinz]

Hi !

I already played the episode 17 and I was wondering what happened with the fair (carnival) scenes with Monica... or is that for the next updating?

Also I decreased the love points with her.

I need the walkthrough ASAP !

Cheers

Ya the big finale date with monica we planned was just to render heavy too make it into this EP. It is already written and we have some done for it though and it will be in EP 18.

 

[JumPin]

Will the MC have a child with the girl he will choose and build a family with or will he continue to have sex only?

 

[hisstoryman]

Based on the choices I made from when this game was released, I can't stop my brain from playing the opening line of Folsom Prison Blues, "I hear the train a comin', it rollin' round the bend." My MC happens to be standing in the middle of the track.

 

[MrFriendly]

This game has like a dozen LI's, and your complaint isn't relevant anyway, that's what having multiple saves are for. If the player chooses to only pursue one girl, and have one save, that is their own prerogative. It's not the developers job to provide content for every LI in every update, especially in a game that has as many as this game does.

As for the harem stuff, the only groupings that make sense have been posted about a ton (Katie+Friends, Monica/Zarah, Jen/Jolina, Wanda/Angel etc.). A large harem doesn't make sense, the girls personalities won't allow it without some major shift in who they are.

LOL, if I was only playing one game or this game was substantially different depending on which LI I selected then I would consider multiple saves. However, this game is not the only one I am playing, the game is almost exactly the same regardless of who the player chooses to fuck, the story isn't so compelling as to need several replays, and it is the developer's job to provide some reason for a player to come back to the game with each update. The game developer needs to entertain players with the content that is provided, if the player isn't entertained due to length between updates and then the lack of content once the update comes out the developer stands to lose players/subscribers.

If the mystery of the emailer was moving forward more quickly then the lack of content for the LI wouldn't be such a problem. The player could be excited by the fact that the "central mystery" is getting closer to a conclusion. However, that plotline has been a very slow burn and it doesn't even seem that solving it will impact the player's decision to either choose money or the girls (which is the central decision).

As to the "mini harems" idea Katie has stated that she won't share the MC at all and her friends seem inclined to be lesbians, Monica isn't inclined to share either, Zarah is pretty much a fuck buddy, Jen and Jolina seems seriously unlikely due to the privacy violation and distrust, Wanda and Angel haven't been seen in a long time and seem like side pieces with no importance to the story. That being said, as I am advocating for a non-canon "fan friendly" harem ending I don't see how any of that matters. The developer can still end the game with any player who cheated locked out of having a relationship with any of the girls, as it seems is the plan, and the mystery of the emailer solved.

 

[MrFriendly]

Why would anyone not have sex with every chick in the game?

It seems that if you do that your best option is to decide to take the money as none of the women will want you after you cheat on them.

 

[acewinz]

Will the MC have a child with the girl he will choose and build a family with or will he continue to have sex only?

He could also very well have children with a girl he doesn't choose in the end. >=)

 

[Steppen Wolf]

Ya the big finale date with monica we planned was just to render heavy too make it into this EP. It is already written and we have some done for it though and it will be in EP 18.

Are you one of the devs ?
Nice to read you and thanks in advance for the game.
I want to ask you if it would be possible to choose from players to see Monica with a big bush down there ?
I really like your game, guys.
Keep going a great work !
Cheers

 

[MrFriendly]

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He could also very well have children with a girl he doesn't choose in the end. >=)

Not if he doesn't fuck anyone else. If the player chooses one LI and one LI only then there is no chance of a bastard offspring.