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Do you think he actually "Hated" him though? The message he left for MC did say, the MC was only 1 of 3 people he actually gave a shit about. I think he very much despised the MC even though he himself molded him into what he has become. You are bang on though with him wanting to fuck up his life! Yikes! (y)
You can hate someone and still not want them to choke to death on their own vomit... Currently doing that right now.

I don't think the father wanted the son to be happy, he just wanted his son to be rich and without any meaningful love in his life... Like he was.
 

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All while very interesting....and accurate for what we/see know...unfortunately the section of your post I kept is not evidence at all...

It's heresay. Bear in mind...Jolina still hasn't been entirely forthcoming with us, still hasn't shown us the supposed evidence she has...so for all intents and purposes right now...she could be talking a load of bollox...either because it's her...or she covering for/helping someone else...she just giving you a description of a third of the female population...
I disagree there isn't anything that suggests or proves Jolina is lying to you. This is evidence of a theory and a theory is only a theory until proven or disproven. Neither which you have done.

One thing I've learned when searching for clues on each person is you have to walk multiple paths with each of them in order to find enough clues.

Example Jolina admits to you on her romantic route why she didn't tell you sooner and is ready to give you that information as soon as Jenna apologies in person.

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You're tunneling on what you want the story to be. Anything can happen at this point and just cause all signs point to Elaine being the big bad boss doesnt mean it is. I'm just admiring how well the story is written and its ability to be spun however Cheeky desires. For all you know the Dad has been framed to be the bad guy.
I didn't say Elaine was the bad guy and how the hell was the dad framed when it was all his own making?

I'm not making the story anything, i'm saying what the story has been.
 

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You can hate someone and still not want them to choke to death on their own vomit... Currently doing that right now.

I don't think the father wanted the son to be happy, he just wanted his son to be rich and without any meaningful love in his life... Like he was.
Good point. (y)
 
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I disagree there isn't anything that suggests or proves Jolina is lying to you. This is evidence of a theory and a theory is only a theory until proven or disproven. Neither which you have done.

One thing I've learned when searching for clues on each person is you have to walk multiple paths with each of them in order to find enough clues.

Example Jolina admits to you on her romantic route why she didn't tell you sooner and is ready to give you that information as soon as Jenna apologies in person.

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Neither have you. You're taking a known liars (and we know she witholds info) word as gospel....

I'm neither proving nor disproving anything, merely suggesting you're stating your entire basis on...someones words, someone not terribly reliable at that. Words are not evidence until backed with actual tangible evidence. Hell...I could give you a descition of the person who went in....means no more (right now) than her words.
 
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Neither have you. You're taking a known liars (and we know she witholds info) word as gospel....

I'm neither proving nor disproving anything, merely suggesting you're stating your entire basis on...someones words, someone not terribly reliable at that. Words are not evidence until backed with actual tangible evidence. Hell...I could give you a descition of the person who went in....means no more (right now) than her words.

Go up and check the thread again. I've edited my post with Jolina's reasons for withholding information. Now I would like to see some evidence that says she did it because she was helping someone else out. Mind you, I too USED to believe exactly as you do and understand why. I'm just saying there is more to the story and I'm positive that Jolina is trust worthy.
 

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Go up and check the thread again. I've edited my post with Jolina's reasons for withholding information. Now I would like to see some evidence that says she did it because she was helping someone else out. Mind you, I too USED to believe exactly as you do and understand why. I'm just saying there is more to the story and I'm positive that Jolina is trust worthy.
Again...please....

I'm not believeing anything...nor disbelieveing anything. Neither trust nor distrust her. Just saying...all it is is words. She is just telling you something vague with nothing to back it up. Until such time as she can/does...it's like someone saying...Oh yeah..I saw your missing cat...has black on it right? Think I saw it on Rosamund Ave.

She also says she found something that night (not it was lost because of the hack...she still has it)....and still hasn't shown/given us. Why not? Why not just show us immediately and be done with it and move on with your life. So if we are talking about trust...well....like I said..she is pruposefully witholding information from us. Her words are rather meaningless in reality.
 
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I just finished the game, and based on the stats, I need an updated walkthrough mod for episode 18. The stats were so low based on those choices.
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by all due respect sir even if a wt-mod would be nice to have (and there are several) it is definetely not necessary. most answers are pretty obvious to score imho. nevertheless here is an alternative solution. go 2:
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and upload your last save from ep17. u can find the directory under c:\users\YOUR USERNAME\app data\roaming\renpy\WTHI FOLDER
when loaded all various values are shown so u are able to change them by clicking onto the numbers which need to be modified. here are my stats ending ep17. i´ve only wrote down the characters which occur most:
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finish it and dl the changed savegame file. copy it to the path mentioned above and overwrite! if anything goes wrong from here just individually modify the values again. eg +10 steps or smt. hope i could help you sir!! well, last but not least CheekyGimp ima loving the new content a lot. much appreciated and yaaayy keep em cumming (or us) lawl

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iam sry folks i made a crucial mistake on the given solution above. the values of the characters were totally wrong because i used a false savegame to check the numbers which i posted here. excuse me!! i´ve adjusted them now so the given values are now correct. plz be also aware of another missinformation i made. the numbers are not the stats from ending ep17!! instead they came from the end of ep16!!
 

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Again...please....

I'm not believeing anything...nor disbelieveing anything. Neither trust nor distrust her. Just saying...all it is is words. She is just telling you something vague with nothing to back it up. Until such time as she can/does...it's like someone saying...Oh yeah..I saw your missing cat...has black on it right? Think I saw it on Rosamund Ave.

She also says she found something that night (not it was lost because of the hack...she still has it)....and still hasn't shown/given us. Why not? Why not just show us immediately and be done with it and move on with your life. So if we are talking about trust...well....like I said..she is pruposefully witholding information from us. Her words are rather meaningless in reality.
Why would you give information to people you were trying to help whom not only betrayed your trust by hacking your computer, but also spied on you as you were becoming intimate.

She has every right to want to see an apology first and I don't think that's unreasonable. What is unreasonable is expecting her to just hand it over after all the betrayal she's faced from you.
 
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