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Well you don't have to have the foursome or go home. You can decline the foursome and stay the night with Katie but you're not going to get any from Katie. She doesn't want to do anything because she can hear Debbie and Lily having sex and it's to much for her with everything that happened that day or something. So that should avoid that conversation you both found annoying as well.

Early in the game Katie doesn't care about the MC flirting with her friends and she isn't jealous. She only becomes jealous once she realizes she has feeling for the MC. Before that Katie, Debbie and Lily would always flirt with each others boyfriends. According to the story anyway. So it was pretty much her friends messing with her about how jealous and possessive she's become along with the alcohol I'm sure that gets us to the foursome.
I don't find it particularly annoying, just odd. I just chalk it up to Katie being Katie. By that time in the game anyone playing should know full well how she is. It's just that if she really doesn't want to share you if you turn down Debbie and Lilly and she she turns you down she shouldn't tease that you don't like girls. Unless she doesn't in that situation.

It's Katie's jealousy that fuels her desires it seems. So it is a bit of a mixed bag with her at times. On one hand she wants the MC all to herself but on the other having the "sisters" flirt it up makes her even more turned on. And it is established that her gruff exterior is just a defensive mechanism so I don't see it as any different behavior for her per se.
 
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I don't find it particularly annoying, just odd. I just chalk it up to Katie being Katie. By that time in the game anyone playing should know full well how she is. It's just that if she really doesn't want to share you if you turn down Debbie and Lilly and she she turns you down she shouldn't tease that you don't like girls. Unless she doesn't in that situation.

It's Katie's jealousy that fuels her desires it seems. So it is a bit of a mixed bag with her at times. On one hand she wants the MC all to herself but on the other having the "sisters" flirt it up makes her even more turned on. And it is established that her gruff exterior is just a defensive mechanism so I don't see it as any different behavior for her per se.
I don't imagine she teases you if you just spend the night with Katie. It's her that doesn't want to have sex so not much she can say.

Katie being a bit crazy is what I love about her. That she wants to have to fight for you. I think it's great being able to tease her and make jealous. I love seeing her get all possessive and crazy. She's a great character. Then you get those sweet moments with her where she unsuccessfully tries to hide her girly side. That's what makes her my favorite character.
 
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I don't imagine she teases you if you just spend the night with Katie. It's her that doesn't want to have sex so not much she can say.

Katie being a bit crazy is what I love about her. That she wants to have to fight for you. I think it's great being able to tease her and make jealous. I love seeing her get all possessive and crazy. She's a great character. Then you get those sweet moments with her where she unsuccessfully tries to hide her girly side. That's what makes her my favorite character.
I like her well enough as a character, she defiantly has her merits. But Jenna is the kind of person I'm attracted to in real life. A classical bookworm with a bit of a twisted mind. Not to mention she is fiercely loyal, though the same could be said about Katie.
 

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Yeah, I like Katie but that whole 3-4some was not great. Essentially if you don't do as she expects she then belittles the MC. Same with Jenna, if you don't go meet Jolina she calls the MC a coward. Yet the MC can't tell them to go fuck themselves at all. Can't discuss with either of them that BS like that is why they are fuck buddies at best, etc. The MC doesn't have nearly enough dialogue where he actually talks about things with the love interest/love of his life.
Well, IMHO that's because the game fundamentally isn't about the relationships with the girls. Much as I love this game, it's primarily about the MC juggling all those relationships to keep them hidden. The individual relationships are a necessary condition to produce the conflicting affairs, not the goal in and of themselves. I think that's why the game occasionally struggles when the MC turns down sex. Those situations are effectively edge cases that are more about covering loose ends (or assuaging mobs of unruly internet pirates... :whistle:) rather than advancing the underlying romance.

Fortunately our devs do a pretty good job covering those loose ends (probably because they're real gluttons for punishment). As a result, the bond with each girl is still sufficiently fleshed out that they work well enough in their own right. Which is good because I'm just not interested in the doomed non-harem route.

I pass on Wanda every time, not into those scenes at all. Rather fuck Natasha again.

My list:

1 Monica
2 Katie
3 Debbie
4 Zarah
5 Lily
6 Angel
7 Elaine
8 Natasha
9 Bella
10 Jenna
11 Jolina
12 Theresa
13 Wanda
I think my list would be:
  1. Lily
  2. Jenna
  3. Angel
  4. Jolina
  5. Debbie
  6. Katie
  7. Wanda
  8. <This space intentionally left blank>
  9. Monica
  10. Natasha
  11. Elaine
  12. Bella
  13. Zarah
  14. Theresa
I didn't care for Wanda at all prior to Chapter 19, but her new subplot is sufficiently interesting that I was willing to modify my Angel run to see what happens if I play around with Wanda as well. It was definitely a big improvement in her presentation.

Monica is a good character (once she stops drinking like a fish), I just can't see the MC in a sexual relationship with her at all. Elaine and Bella are marginal characters undermined by how insanely suspicious they are. (To be fair, Jolina has some serious red flags too, but she herself is more appealing to me which helps compensate. Plus she's better integrated into Jenna's story.)

Zarah made a bad first impression and every time I've tried to give her another chance she instantly makes the situation uncomfortably sexual, long before I can get get any feel for what makes her tick; at this point she's burned her bridges pretty thoroughly. Theresa could be interesting if I thought there'd be an opportunity to make her a better person rather than indulge in her hypocrisy, but I see no sign of that.

I don't like being "forced" to do things. I am not a fan of behaving in a passive or submissive manner, however I am not a fan of domination either. Katie, up until the Beach House scene, was all about the banter and fun back and forth. Not wanting to indulge in that bacchanalian event means she starts to rip into him because "all men should want to watch lesbians fuck and fuck three women" :rolleyes:, which is ridiculous because we all know that women are insanely jealous and sex always changes the relationship... Or at least that's what I've been told. :ROFLMAO:
Interesting you say that, because for me Katie is the one that feels forced.

I really want to like Katie; her mix of sincerity and sarcasm looks great on paper. But the problem is that she tends to mock what I find heartwarming, and all but demands the MC take seriously things I find snarkable. To me, it comes across less like a rough-and-tumble girl willing to show me her tender side, and more like an overbearing act meant to hide her profound insecurities.

There are moments where Katie feels genuine (the bathroom duet in Chapter 20, for example), and in those moments she's very appealing. The rest of the time, though... no thanks. Perhaps things will improve as we approach the end?


Well you don't have to have the foursome or go home. You can decline the foursome and stay the night with Katie but you're not going to get any from Katie. She doesn't want to do anything because she can hear Debbie and Lily having sex and it's to much for her with everything that happened that day or something. So that should avoid that conversation you both found annoying as well.

Early in the game Katie doesn't care about the MC flirting with her friends and she isn't jealous. She only becomes jealous once she realizes she has feeling for the MC. Before that Katie, Debbie and Lily would always flirt with each others boyfriends. According to the story anyway. So it was pretty much her friends messing with her about how jealous and possessive she's become along with the alcohol I'm sure that gets us to the foursome.
She'll still give you some snark about being sensitive if you turn down the three/four-some to be with her - even if you've been completely faithful to her alone the whole game. It's not a major problem, but it does subtly contribute to the impression that Katie is a barely controlled bundle of lust and jealousy who views the MC more as her toy rather than an equal partner.
 
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Well, IMHO that's because the game fundamentally isn't about the relationships with the girls. Much as I love this game, it's primarily about the MC juggling all those relationships to keep them hidden. The individual relationships are a necessary condition to produce the conflicting affairs, not the goal in and of themselves. I think that's why the game occasionally struggles when the MC turns down sex. Those situations are effectively edge cases that are more about covering loose ends (or assuaging mobs of unruly internet pirates... :whistle:) rather than advancing the underlying romance.

Fortunately our devs do a pretty good job covering those loose ends (probably because they're real gluttons for punishment). As a result, the bond with each girl is still sufficiently fleshed out that they work well enough in their own right. Which is good because I'm just not interested in the doomed non-harem route.


I think my list would be:
  1. Lily
  2. Jenna
  3. Angel
  4. Jolina
  5. Debbie
  6. Katie
  7. Wanda
  8. <This space intentionally left blank>
  9. Monica
  10. Natasha
  11. Elaine
  12. Bella
  13. Zarah
  14. Theresa
I didn't care for Wanda at all prior to Chapter 19, but her new subplot is sufficiently interesting that I was willing to modify my Angel run to see what happens if I play around with Wanda as well. It was definitely a big improvement in her presentation.

Monica is a good character (once she stops drinking like a fish), I just can't see the MC in a sexual relationship with her at all. Elaine and Bella are marginal characters undermined by how insanely suspicious they are. (To be fair, Jolina has some serious red flags too, but she herself is more appealing to me which helps compensate. Plus she's better integrated into Jenna's story.)

Zarah made a bad first impression and every time I've tried to give her another chance she instantly makes the situation uncomfortably sexual, long before I can get get any feel for what makes her tick; at this point she's burned her bridges pretty thoroughly. Theresa could be interesting if I thought there'd be an opportunity to make her a better person rather than indulge in her hypocrisy, but I see no sign of that.


Interesting you say that, because for me Katie is the one that feels forced.

I really want to like Katie; her mix of sincerity and sarcasm looks great on paper. But the problem is that she tends to mock what I find heartwarming, and all but demands the MC take seriously things I find snarkable. To me, it comes across less like a rough-and-tumble girl willing to show me her tender side, and more like an overbearing act meant to hide her profound insecurities.

There are moments where Katie feels genuine (the bathroom duet in Chapter 20, for example), and in those moments she's very appealing. The rest of the time, though... no thanks. Perhaps things will improve as we approach the end?



She'll still give you some snark about being sensitive if you turn down the three/four-some to be with her - even if you've been completely faithful to her alone the whole game. It's not a major problem, but it does subtly contribute to the impression that Katie is a barely controlled bundle of lust and jealousy who views the MC more as her toy rather than an equal partner.
Yeah, the game is written with an expectation that the player will have the MC be a deceitful slut and when you don't play him that way the characters will mock the MC for not fucking them OR express great disappointment OR be really angry that the MC didn't choose them, etc. Considering the short time frame of the game these women are obsessing over the MC more than Dogboy obsesses over the two J's (what if that's what attracts Dogboy? Women with J names...)

Playing the MC as someone who is faithful to one character causes a lack of content for the player's chosen Love Interest which means going a couple updates before there is anything. Which goes back to the too many Love Interests problem.
 

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Well, IMHO that's because the game fundamentally isn't about the relationships with the girls. Much as I love this game, it's primarily about the MC juggling all those relationships to keep them hidden.
I would have to disagree with this. That if defiantly a possible approach to playing the game, I'm a firm believer in "you do you", and yes while there are a few times where the days are a bit stalled if you aren't in multiple routes but it's not so much so that it makes the game empty.

One of the best parts of this VN is the actual interactions with the cast. I don't mean explicitly sexual situations or anything even the conversations and relationship building is done in a very "real world" believable way. I think it's all about the human connection throughout the game. The main plot on the other hand just feels like a means to an end I guess, it's just kind of there to push the game along while you decide what or who actually makes you happy.

I love the game but the main plot is irrelevant to me. Not saying it is poor it's just that I couldn't care less about the money or the will. Unless something happens to were it will actually get in the way of me and Jenna, it will always be insignificant to me. You can all but guarantee it will be an issue at some point but with the style of writing and the vast amount of player agency it's unlikely that you wont be able to just tell the dead shyster to just jog on and take the money with them.
 

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Considering the short time frame of the game these women are obsessing over the MC more than Dogboy obsesses over the two J's (what if that's what attracts Dogboy? Women with J names...)

Playing the MC as someone who is faithful to one character causes a lack of content for the player's chosen Love Interest which means going a couple updates before there is anything. Which goes back to the too many Love Interests problem.
Name your character John or something and tell us if dogboy immediately starts humping you when he learns your name :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Dev never thought anybody would be willful enough to only go after only 1 girl or the no sex route aka dark route. I'm gonna take a guess and blame acewinz for that. Horndog who needs to be locked up in a basement/dungeon all the time kinda fits the description.
 
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Name your character John or something and tell us if dogboy immediately starts humping you when he learns your name :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Dev never thought anybody would be willful enough to only go after only 1 girl or the no sex route aka dark route. I'm gonna take a guess and blame acewinz for that. Horndog who needs to be locked up in a basement/dungeon all the time kinda fits the description.
Oh yeah, acewinz seems like the perfect person to blame. :ROFLMAO:

I have it on good authority that CellStudios had to make some extra renders of a new character for his own game just because Mr. Horndog thought she was hot... Worst part is that CS didn't even share them with me! ;)

Anyway, I wonder how difficult it would be to code a game to recognize a custom name which starts with J and add a render with some special dialogue. An easter egg of a shirtless Dogboy on a heart shaped bed... :ROFLMAO:
 

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Oh yeah, acewinz seems like the perfect person to blame. :ROFLMAO:

I have it on good authority that CellStudios had to make some extra renders of a new character for his own game just because Mr. Horndog thought she was hot... Worst part is that CS didn't even share them with me! ;)

Anyway, I wonder how difficult it would be to code a game to recognize a custom name which starts with J and add a render with some special dialogue. An easter egg of a shirtless Dogboy on a heart shaped bed... :ROFLMAO:
I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to use that character in the game :p originally she was designed for a comic but because Ace liked her so much I don't think I can use her now, acewinz wouldn't want me sharing her with the world :oops: also I'm not sure how well she'd fit into the game too :unsure:
 
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I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to use that character in the game :p originally she was designed for a comic but because Ace liked her so much I don't think I can use her now, acewinz wouldn't want me sharing her with the world :oops: also I'm not sure how well she'd fit into the game too :unsure:
We could find a way... Give her a nickname of "Ace" and have her just be someone they run into. I'm sure there must be some way to squeeze her in ;)
 
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Call her Alice but her friends call her Ace for short xD you got me with that, might have to make it happen now :unsure:
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- btw MC, this is my assistant, Alice
- glad to meet you MC, i'm Alice but my friends call me Ace, i hope someday you'll call me Ace too.

OR

- MC i'm Alice, owner of Ace PI, i'm supposed to control if you abide to the condition of the will, i'll be following you discretly from now on.
 

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Oh yeah, acewinz seems like the perfect person to blame. :ROFLMAO:

I have it on good authority that CellStudios had to make some extra renders of a new character for his own game just because Mr. Horndog thought she was hot... Worst part is that CS didn't even share them with me! ;)
I'm not 100% sure if I'm going to use that character in the game :p originally she was designed for a comic but because Ace liked her so much I don't think I can use her now, acewinz wouldn't want me sharing her with the world :oops: also I'm not sure how well she'd fit into the game too :unsure:
ROFL. This reminds me of that old adage if a story is told from person to person even a few times, the story will be very different by the time it makes it's way back around.

I claim no liability (I only take credit) if CellStudios asked me for my input on a character he was creating... then took all of my advice and somehow made what I would consider a near perfect version of the nerdy girl archetype. She is still his to do with what he will and the extra renders afaik he was going to make because my feedback was so positive, never actually materialized due to technical difficulties. So no need for any envy on that part MrFriendly ;). She is cute ASF though, definitely should be a VN character deserving of animations. Oh, and if I can't call her mine, I suppose Alice is a good name. :p
 

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ROFL. This reminds me of that old adage if a story is told from person to person even a few times, the story will be very different by the time it makes it's way back around.

I claim no liability (I only take credit) if CellStudios asked me for my input on a character he was creating... then took all of my advice and somehow made what I would consider a near perfect version of the nerdy girl archetype. She is still his to do with what he will and the extra renders afaik he was going to make because my feedback was so positive, never actually materialized due to technical difficulties. So no need for any envy on that part MrFriendly ;). She is cute ASF though, definitely should be a VN character deserving of animations. Oh, and if I can't call her mine, I suppose Alice is a good name. :p
I can't really be jealous since CellStudios took my silly character idea for the perfect redhead and is, hopefully, going to have her in the game. LOL

Still think we should use Alice and have her nickname be "Ace" for some cheesy reason like she "aces all tests" or whatever.

Anyway, as I said from the beginning of my arrival here WTHI needs more redheads, hope the next game you three work on together is chock full of them. If not then I will just have to convince CS to add more redheads to The Cabin.
 
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I claim no liability (I only take credit) if @CellStudios asked me for my input on a character he was creating... then took all of my advice and somehow made what I would consider a near perfect version of the nerdy girl archetype. She is still his to do with what he will and the extra renders afaik he was going to make because my feedback was so positive, never actually materialized due to technical difficulties. So no need for any envy on that part MrFriendly ;). She is cute ASF though, definitely should be a VN character deserving of animations. Oh, and if I can't call her mine, I suppose Alice is a good name.
Oh, come on Ace and Cell. You guys are torturing us. I've mentioned my soft spot for the hot sexy nerdy girl type (Jenna!), a few times, and you are here one-upping yourselves with another one.

At least show us a sample render so we can salivate while waiting for her in a future game! ;)
 

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God, that was so bad. :ROFLMAO:
I aim to please! I was trying for the cheesiest line I could think of so you got that... :)

At this point my sense of humor is 95% sarcasm, dad jokes, and cheesy pick up lines.

We could have Alice be into statistics and poker...
 
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