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One of the hardest things for me in this story is that some choices seem like you need to make them to help folks you care for, but they later will bite you in the butt. Hardest does not mean bad in this case,,,, it literally is hard because let's look at the Wonder Trio- Monica, Katie and Jenna.
If I do not have some lust for Monica, and push that part of the narrative along, then her business might suffer... if I do have lust, then it could cause issues with Jenna or Katie. If I do not do some lusty bits for Jenna, she stays a recluse and never spreads her wings, but if I do, it messes with Katie... who will cut my balls off.....

I want to trust people I think are probably bad to trust..

I do love this novel.... it makes me think, question, and rethink, and question my decisions. I am thinking that sounds masochistic???? Which really I am not!

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Katie seemed fine with share your meat popsicle with Jenna, and Jenna had a blast diddling herself while you rearended Katie. Meanwhile Monica where okayish with you had been fooling around with some girls..... how it all come together later is another tale, but it all come down to what choices you take in the game. Of course, if all you think about is to watch as much lewd shit as possible right away, that would be like paint yourself into a corner..
 

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This game for me is perfect how it is, the writing is great, the decisions are hard, never did i think or feel like it was a harem we was just allowed to take longer to chose the girl we want.. and also if you pick right you can most likely end up with more than 1 girl anyway.
You're right, and I think that the noun for that choice between one path and harem is polyamory. My understanding is that there are about a dozen love interests in the game, so far. Ideally, I'd want the MC to develop a polyamorous relationship with three love interests: Jenna, Jolina and Debbie.

Although, at the same time, I don't know how Debbie could get written into that. And if Jolina turns out to be involved with Bella in a way that places the MC in jeopardy, then that rules out Jolina, too.

I also think that part of the reason why decisions are hard for me in this game is because it's difficult to know who is trustworthy. I'm not sure if I was the only one, but I really didn't know what to make of Monica's response to the MC's question about his mother being pregnant with him (I can't remember the episode); she seemed vague and avoidant. In another episode a few episodes back, I think, I recall Jolina mentioning that she had something to share about herself with the MC, but it was never fully explored later on. Lily is another example; she was supposedly known as "Dizzy" Lily at school, but is this just a persona? And in this latest episode, the name or nickname "Dizzy" was referenced again.

It seems like many if not most of the characters either have ulterior motives or at the very least are harbouring secrets that may partly or largely impact the MC. There are so many factors and variables here that make the game so engaging, and really make me wonder whether I want more than one love interest in the end.
 

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One of the hardest things for me in this story is that some choices seem like you need to make them to help folks you care for, but they later will bite you in the butt. Hardest does not mean bad in this case,,,, it literally is hard because let's look at the Wonder Trio- Monica, Katie and Jenna.
If I do not have some lust for Monica, and push that part of the narrative along, then her business might suffer... if I do have lust, then it could cause issues with Jenna or Katie. If I do not do some lusty bits for Jenna, she stays a recluse and never spreads her wings, but if I do, it messes with Katie... who will cut my balls off.....

I want to trust people I think are probably bad to trust..

I do love this novel.... it makes me think, question, and rethink, and question my decisions. I am thinking that sounds masochistic???? Which really I am not!

Peace

People make each other better, love and acceptance too. That's actually what makes monogamy so special, you can only share yourself and your goodness with one other person. Its what makes Harem games so cheap (though delicious). You can't realistically do what the MC does, most people can't progress far enough down the line with that many girls ans the MC has. Its just not possible. Being a couple is a special thing. Its two people coming together to make a third person (not referring to pregnancy here). You're trying to improve and support each other. And while we want the best for all the girls in this game, its silly to think you can be that person for everyone, all at once. Part of what makes Monica feel so treasured is that you chose her INSTEAD of someone else. Same with Katie. Jenna is more interesting, WANTING to actively compete, but even she says, she only feels that way, because you assure her, that she's the real number one.

Being a DIK has an interesting case, where you romance a lesbian (bi?) couple, turning it in to a throuple. Thats probably the only realistic way to be polyamorous, where everyone is in love with everyone else. Are Jenna and Monica a couple? Sure in some truly filthy games, moms and daughters worship MC's cock together, but for the most part Where the Heart is, is meant to be semi realistic. Good parents don't have sexual intentions towards their children for obvious reasons. So how to you make everyone happy? You don't. You can't. That's life.

This got a lot longer than i intended. Sorry for that.

Love the game. Love the update.
 

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You're right, and I think that the noun for that choice between one path and harem is polyamory. My understanding is that there are about a dozen love interests in the game, so far. Ideally, I'd want the MC to develop a polyamorous relationship with three love interests: Jenna, Jolina and Debbie.

Although, at the same time, I don't know how Debbie could get written into that. And if Jolina turns out to be involved with Bella in a way that places the MC in jeopardy, then that rules out Jolina, too.

I also think that part of the reason why decisions are hard for me in this game is because it's difficult to know who is trustworthy. I'm not sure if I was the only one, but I really didn't know what to make of Monica's response to the MC's question about his mother being pregnant with him (I can't remember the episode); she seemed vague and avoidant. In another episode a few episodes back, I think, I recall Jolina mentioning that she had something to share about herself with the MC, but it was never fully explored later on. Lily is another example; she was supposedly known as "Dizzy" Lily at school, but is this just a persona? And in this latest episode, the name or nickname "Dizzy" was referenced again.

It seems like many if not most of the characters either have ulterior motives or at the very least are harbouring secrets that may partly or largely impact the MC. There are so many factors and variables here that make the game so engaging, and really make me wonder whether I want more than one love interest in the end.
when was it referenced in the last episode? I really dont think its Lily
 

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when was it referenced in the last episode? I really dont think its Lily
Dizzy is referenced with the MC's lawyer - referring to the unknown third heir, not Lily. AFAICT, the only person who has called Lily "Dizzy" is the MC, and he didn't know her growing up. So I have no idea why he picked that name, unless it's just to scare the audience.

Personally, I think it's all but impossible for Lily to be the gold digger. Unless we think Donald was fooling around with an underage girl, the affair could only have been within the last few years, and he somehow managed it without the MC or Katie/Debbie noticing. That's a stretch. Moreover, the Lily we know wants to be respected for more than her looks, has a hard time focusing on practical matters, and doesn't use birth control. None of that seems compatible with being Donald's secret lover. Unless we assume everything we've learned about Lily has been a bald faced lie, it's hard to see how she could fit the role.

I think it's much easier to assume Lily is innocent and the Dizzy 'nickname' is a red herring. But I'm admittedly biased since I adore the Lily we know. :love:
 

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Dizzy is referenced with the MC's lawyer - referring to the unknown third heir, not Lily. AFAICT, the only person who has called Lily "Dizzy" is the MC, and he didn't know her growing up. So I have no idea why he picked that name, unless it's just to scare the audience.

Personally, I think it's all but impossible for Lily to be the gold digger. Unless we think Donald was fooling around with an underage girl, the affair could only have been within the last few years, and he somehow managed it without the MC or Katie/Debbie noticing. That's a stretch. Moreover, the Lily we know wants to be respected for more than her looks, has a hard time focusing on practical matters, and doesn't use birth control. None of that seems compatible with being Donald's secret lover. Unless we assume everything we've learned about Lily has been a bald faced lie, it's hard to see how she could fit the role.

I think it's much easier to assume Lily is innocent and the Dizzy 'nickname' is a red herring. But I'm admittedly biased since I adore the Lily we know. :love:
nah im not biased with lily at all and i 100% agree with you, it just doesnt add up for her to be it, as you said unless everything about her is a lie. shes not that type of girl who would do that. If i had to pick one right now who i think it is id say bella
 
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[VN] [Ren'Py] Where the Heart Is [Episode 1-22] [CheekyGimp] [OS@3.93GB, HQ, MyRepack-YAC]
PC = / WorkUpload / PixelDrain / (Thanks giqui2018 )
Broken Arhives, i load from one off links for PC and try unpack,
and get error "I not have Free Memory" (even my PC used 300mb/8GB OZU)
And no, my PC is totaly OK, cus right after it i load this (1.28GB), and unpack totaly safe, ok?
 
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I agree, I am now wounding if I don't offer the Beach house for either will Bella still show up like the lunch date. that I did not agree to. Everyone once said Monica throws herself at MC but Bella does it much better. and way too many in game spoilers to (now we Know)not show the connection to Jolina if we just looked for them. I do have an add to the reason for Bella being at the Beach House. You do know that they are connected (Jo and Bella) so maybe Jo added he to the gest list before showing up with MC as he added Jo before they arrived. info to be confirmed latter.
Elaine drove meaning she had to pass through the security barrier. Bella walked (from the bus-stop) in a thunderstorm...so easier for the security team to miss. It's just a rent-a-cop company monitoring a beach, not Fort Knox so not everybody gets stopped / noticed. Also, when MC is in (i.e. house is occupied) sec company don't need to be as vigilant. That was our thinking but let me know if this doesn't sound plausible. Easy enough to add a line where sec company contacts MC asking is it OK to let the visitor (Bella) through just before she arrives at the door.
 
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Elaine drove meaning she had to pass through the security barrier. Bella walked (from the bus-stop) in a thunderstorm...so easier for the security team to miss. It's just a rent-a-cop company monitoring a beach, not Fort Knox so not everybody gets stopped / noticed. That was our thinking but let me know if this doesn't sound plausible. Easy enough to add a line where sec company contacts MC asking is it OK to let the visitor (Bella) through just before she arrives at the door. Also, when MC is in (i.e. house is occupied) sec company don't need to be as vigilant.
If there's a gate, there's normally a fence or hedge wall around the area to keep people from circumventing a gate.

Her just popping in seemed implausible. Her visiting before also doesn't make sense. Because Elaine has been there before.
But your introduction of a Security Force altogether makes no sense, because no mention of it was made when Katie's group showed up for the sleepover. Bella's also gotten through before on that same event.

It feels like an interjected plot point to fix a loophole. Unless you retroactively go back and make mention of the security every time someone has been to the Beach House, it makes no sense. You could have also easily added a bit with Bella calling first to be let through security.

Edit: Also the MC is clearly a brain dead idiot, because he somehow forgot that days before Bella had Elaine's phone but we have no choice to mention that in the conversation. What clearly could have been an "aha!" moment turned into him just believing everything she was spouting.
 

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I agree, I am now wounding if I don't offer the Beach house for either will Bella still show up like the lunch date. that I did not agree to. Everyone once said Monica throws herself at MC but Bella does it much better. and way too many in game spoilers to (now we Know)not show the connection to Jolina if we just looked for them. I do have an add to the reason for Bella being at the Beach House. You do know that they are connected (Jo and Bella) so maybe Jo added he to the gest list before showing up with MC as he added Jo before they arrived. info to be confirmed latter.
It is possible that Jo added her to the guest list if you let Jo stay there. However even when i let Jo move across the country, and rejected Bella at every turn she still showed up at the end of the update. On my main save i turned her away but it appears she shows up regardless of your choices .
 

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nah im not biased with lily at all and i 100% agree with you, it just doesnt add up for her to be it, as you said unless everything about her is a lie. shes not that type of girl who would do that. If i had to pick one right now who i think it is id say bella
The "Dizzy" reference that I pointed out wasn't meant to be taken so literally, though. Even if the "Dizzy" nickname is a red herring, it doesn't change the fact that there is more to a lot of the love interests than what one initially perceives. Earlier on in the game, for instance, I thought that Jo and Bella were more or less victims of circumstance, but after recent updates, I can see that there's a side to them that the MC hasn't seen; he hasn't exactly been characterised as the most intelligent person, either. In short, I meant to say that few love interests are as they seem to be on the surface.
 
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The "Dizzy" reference that I pointed out wasn't meant to be taken so literally, though. Even if the "Dizzy" nickname is a red herring, it doesn't change the fact that there is more to a lot of the love interests than what one initially perceives. Earlier on in the game, for instance, I thought that Jo and Bella were more or less victims of circumstance, but after recent updates, I can see that there's a side to them that the MC hasn't seen; he hasn't exactly been characterised as the most intelligent person, either. In short, I meant to say that few love interests are as they seem to be on the surface.
yup, thats why my mc has performed, whenever possible, some quite deep exploration of those fine ladies:WeSmart:

btw, to the dev team - if we dont get to properly bang elaine one more time...:devilish:
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Edit: Also the MC is clearly a brain dead idiot, because he somehow forgot that days before Bella had Elaine's phone but we have no choice to mention that in the conversation. What clearly could have been an "aha!" moment turned into him just believing everything she was spouting.
The Mc doesn't get any Aha Moments yet. he is a silver tongue devil great with the words and we can help with the girls we don't want or how we want to respond but he needs to get smart really soon. and start seeing what we see or at least think about it some
 

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The Mc doesn't get any Aha Moments yet. he is a silver tongue devil great with the words and we can help with the girls we don't want or how we want to respond but he needs to get smart really soon. and start seeing what we see or at least think about it some
The game doesn't necessary need for the game to serve up aha momments in a text box. It does a good job at leave that to the player (if you followed the story that is).
 

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Elaine drove meaning she had to pass through the security barrier. Bella walked (from the bus-stop) in a thunderstorm...so easier for the security team to miss. It's just a rent-a-cop company monitoring a beach, not Fort Knox so not everybody gets stopped / noticed. Also, when MC is in (i.e. house is occupied) sec company don't need to be as vigilant. That was our thinking but let me know if this doesn't sound plausible. Easy enough to add a line where sec company contacts MC asking is it OK to let the visitor (Bella) through just before she arrives at the door.
The guards say they stop her at the gates (Monica) driving obviously. true The girls are there on the beach but Lily drives has a car took the girls to mall and MC to her house. so after shopping Lily must have taken them to the beach house.(no?) not sure how they got there as I did not see a comment about it. but Bella the bus? we don't know how she gets around so possible! it explains the soaking wet look. but now I want to know why not call for a ride why show up (we know maybe).
 

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The game doesn't necessary need for the game to serve up aha momments in a text box. It does a good job at leave that to the player (if you followed the story that is).
I Know the player gets them not the MC. but I'm just saying "WAKE UP MC" hopefully since he got lawyer he get smart now too.
 

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I feel like andrew david irving pulled a deadpool on Avaron1974, Re: deadpool meeting Negasonic Teenage warhead.

I disagree. ADI is no RR. Avaron1974 actually lays out the facts of the game (Sometimes hard boiled) something ADI seems to struggle with.
 
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