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Version 0.05 is now available of general release (if there's anyone out there that didn't fucking pirate it!!).

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Well, there is this one guy, about 45 miles southwest of Duluth, that might still be looking for it. I think the rest of us are good, though.
 

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Actually, the renders are nice. I know (and appreciate) you like to self-ridicule, but I think you're doing a swell job on this game so far. I expect it will be exponentially better as it (and you) develop.

A question that often comes up with other devs as they gain proficiency, release by release, is whether you will, at some point, consider going back and re-rendering images with your improved skill.
 
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Actually, the renders are nice. I know (and appreciate) you like to self-ridicule, but I think you're doing a swell job on this game so far. I expect it will be exponentially better as it (and you) develop.

A question that often comes up with other devs as they gain proficiency, release by release, is whether you will, at some point, consider going back and re-rendering images with your improved skill.
Thanks. And to answer your question -Yes. I definitely plan on re-doing renders, but not at the expense of delaying future releases. So whenever I get ahead of schedule on a release, I'm going to go back and start re-doing original renders, because there's plenty I'm not happy with. I only discovered emissive planes a couple of weeks back FFS :).
And also (like the two posted above) add additional renders for previous scenes, so rather than just using your imagination for "touch ass", "touch boob", "hold hand", etc. you get a render for each option. Would also like to get some sound FX in there, because (when they are done right), I think they can improve a game (but not yet Spaniard, not yet!)
 

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Gotta say that I had never played VNs until I found out about them within just the last few months here on f95. So far I'm just a free-loader but I wouldn't mind throwing a few bucks at a good developer, and this is one I could definitely get behind (and probably will eventually).

Having gotten that out of the way, I have some ideas that I think are in the spirit of WTHI which I'd like to share. Of course the dev has his own ideas, but he did solicit plot-pacing information, so this is offered in the spirit of that request. It occurs to me that a lot of what I'm about to say may be to a great extent what the dev is already thinking about how he plans to proceed. If not, then more power to him.

One thing that a lot of these sorts of games have a hard time with is the balance of realism and realistic human relationships and jealousies on the one hand, and fulfilling the male player's desire for a harem on the other. I think that WTHI likely will and should fall a little more on the realism side by ultimately forcing a choice between the two sisters. Frankly, though I could be totally wrong, I just do not envision wild threesome fuckfests happening in this game. If it does turn out to be that type of game then that's fine too, but that just isn't where I see things going. Instead I think that Monica (and Zarah if you're into her, which I'm not) should be sort of a freebie, and she should basically end up having fun with the MC before essentially giving him her blessing to go on and pursue one of the daughters for an actual relationship. The critical choice then should be how far the player can get away with carrying the relationship with each sister, and how much content the player can tease out of each path, before either being forced to choose between the two or else maybe just screwing it all up and having a game over, as in, "You lose, you got neither daughter and also pissed off Monica.". Doing it this way gives the game built-in replayability because you're guaranteed at least two distinct endings (or three if you count the "game over").

The way I personally envision this choice proceeding is something like this:

Kate path: the MC brings Jenna out of her shell, helps her with self-esteem, and has some reasonably intimate fun in the process while ultimately fending off tit-hound losers that are after her and setting her up with a decent guy (maybe a friend of Kate's?). but his real attentions go to Kate as below.

Jenna path: the MC helps Kate with the social problems and bullies she's had to face and helps her realize that she's strong enough and beautiful enough that she doesn't have to hide behind her rough, trash-talking persona but can be more genuine. once she really understands this she can find a nice guy while the MC continues with Jenna as above.

So in each case what you've got is the MC helping both of the daughters with a sort of personal awakening and then pursuing the final path with just one of them while helping the other find a nice guy. This is not really NTR because the other guy isn't really a competitor ... instead he's just more of a minor character who happens to be the lucky beneficiary of the MC's help, and who the girl chooses only after the MC forecloses his own path with her (if you fuck up they both choose other guys!). But nothing prevents a lot of very intimate action developing with both sisters prior to the characters coming to terms with their feelings and relationships and this choice being made.

I have to say how great this game is so far in terms of using the porn stereotypes really well and with unusual sensitivity. For example the "corrupting-mentor" relationship the MC has with Jenna strikes just the right balance of being subtle and directive (and I also love how she helps him as a smart, Velma-like, sleuth figure), and the "pretend boyfriend turns real boyfriend" relationship he has (or will have) with Kate is also great. The "distract her" scene between the MC and Kate while working out was unquestionably one of the best pieces of writing I've ever seen in any of these games.

Keep up the great work.
 
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Hey, thanks a lot. Really appreciate the detailed feedback. Your inputs on the overall story arc are definitely along the lines of where I want to go. There are some characters (e.g. Zarah) whose relationship / character, etc. will develop but in the end they are not a "primary" character and there won't be a "happily ever after - one woman for me" option for these type of characters. These are effectively your one-night-stand (or 3 or 4 night stands) type of characters. With some of the primary characters, there will be a slow-burn relationship build, so the main goal for these secondary (one-night stand) characters is so there's at least some sexual relief for the MC as I don't want to be 8 months in and the closest the MC has gotten to sexual release is a goddamn pick-pocket !:)

I do want to bring in some FFM scenes or possibly FFFM scenes but I don't envisage a final ending where we get 7 different females all agreeing to share the MC (i.e. the Wheel of Time ending). I do want to have some degree of realistic responses from some of the females where depending on your route, some will tell you to fuck off, others will ask you to choose while some may be happy to share.

The initial routes will be to progress each female individually (as you've seen so far), but as these relationships develop, I want to bring in some cross-over effects (e.g. as a Mom, Monica would notice if you start acting more familiar with a daughter or the daughter's might have some level of jealousy if they notice things changing between the MC and their sibling). Plus, with a lot going on in a house, there's always the chance for accidental walk-ins / observations. And there'll definitely be multiple endings depending on overall how you've played the game, what attibutes you've built up with the characters throughout the episodes, plus there will be some significant one-off choices to make during the game which will alter courses and lead you to specific end-game options.

Well, that's the current plan........
 
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And don't worry about being a "free-loader". This game is a free game. However, if I earn some cash while I do it, I'm not going to complain. Initial plan is to break even and cover the money I've already spent and then everything after that will determine how much time I can free up from work to spend on this (more patreon money = less overtime needed in my real job). So I'll never criticize anyone who only plays the free versions.
Also, realistically I cannot ask people not to play "pirated" versions if they are available because that just isn't going to happen.
However, I would like it if people just didn't make the pirate version available in the first place, because I don't think a 2 or 3 week wait for the free version is a big ask, so all they're really doing is taking cash out of my pocket. And this cash = extra time for game development and extra assets to improve the game. So really all it does is slow down the game development / decrease overall quality of the game.
So if you want to financially support the game and get early access -great! However, if you only play the free version, then that is also great (my primary goal is to create a game that people enjoy regardless of money). I just don't want the people who ARE paying to get shafted when the very thing they are paying their hard-earned cash on is being giving out for nothing.
So, there's no such thing as a free-loader. As long as you enjoy the game, I'm cool with that. And if you take the time out to send me on decent feedback (positive or constructive) then you really are supporting the game!
 
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My plugged nickel:

- I think Monica would be most likely to be upset with MC having any relationship other than her. She could rationalize MC as replacement "Father" and use the "time away" as enough to change view from her neighbor's young son to a supportive partner.

- Concurrent to that, she is pretty prudish, so I would think she would also react terribly negatively to the idea of sharing. That seems too much of a leap to me in the way you have built the character. Just getting her to accept MC seems to me the extent to which you can realistically stretch her (assuming you want realism).

- I see the daughters as more accepting of a shared relationship. Despite the implied irritation, there's no real rivalry between them because they are so different. It would be an unwelcome idea at first for them (as it should be, since neither is really portrayed as free and easy), but I could see their mutual care for MC allowing them to also open up more to each other.

- The various one-offs (Zarah, girlfriends, random women) don't interest me as much and can probably be used just to keep the fapping crowd happy. I caution going overboard, though, if you really are trying to make a realistic relationship develop with the others

- To the above point, I could see where this might be when you have branching paths. MC can just become a sex hound and juggle everything with a vagina in the game or he could become dedicated to one or two women. And, I suppose, some mix in between, depending on how many nights you want to go without sleep plotting this.

- Of course, all bets would be off is someone modded this to make Monica and the girls to be the actual family. But that's a whole other post!
 

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Yes. For the one-off characters, where possible, I'll give options to avoid the encounter if that's the path a player wants to take.
 

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Just posted this in my Patreon, so decided to share here to see if it resonates with any other Devs...
(And before people start showing concern... Remember, I'm only joking...)

So.... The Cycle continues... And by that I mean my monthly Dev cycle for the past number of months have all been the same. I keep thinking it's going to be different, but nope! The cycle is as follows:

Week 1: Take it relatively easy for the first 2 days because I'm still happy I got the last update complete. Then as the week closes, I start upping the workload as I begin to feel overwhelmed about how much work I need to do and start to think I'll be lucky if I get this episode out in 5 months, never mind 1.

Week 2: Things start to take shape. The individual scenes and nuggets of script start turning from an abstract into something real and I start thinking... Cool, I'm back in the groove. And I laugh whimsically about why the hell "Week 1 Me" felt overwhelmed. This month will be a breeze. I might even finish ahead of time and start looking into animation tutorials or add in Full audio.

Week 3: Panic kicks in as I realize I was just kidding myself in week 2 and cannot even remember what the fuck I was wasting my time on in week 1 (grinning like a fucking idiot because I got an episode out).I know there's no way I'm going to get everything done. And instead of making progress I start critiquing and changing the stuff I've already done. If I could get my hands on "week 2 me" I'd choke the fucking life out of the whimsical bastard. And don't get me started on "week 1 me". Spent half his week posting shit on Discord / Patreon and all other forums instead of fucking working. And speaking of work, I start thinking of excuses to call in sick to work to make more time for development and then realize my Boss has to realize that I've had fourteen grandmother deaths over the past two years, so that gets scratched. Commit to sleeping 4 hours a night for the next two weeks and ALL other non-essential activities are banned (t.v., speaking to my girlfriend, gaming, whiskey, No! Never whiskey, always time for that sweet nectar!)

Week 4: Madness kicks in. Haven't slept in 3 days. Haven't eaten in 4 days (except that sweet brown stuff I found under the keyboard). I am cursing myself for ever starting this Dev nightmare plus every other person that ever developed a game.

I am googling "How to fake your own death" articles. I spend every waking minute either developing or thinking about developing (some of those romance scenes you like might have been thought up while I was taking a ... well you get the idea!).

Considering hiring a private detective to get me an address for the person who created DAZ, so I can hunt him down and end him (disclaimer - this article is only a parody and I have no ill-feelings to anyone related to DAZ).

End of week 4, I feel like I understand women so much better, not because of trying to write lines for so many female characters, but because I have irrational outbursts of emotion, Cry uncontrollably at random points of the day, Am a slave to a monthly cycle & Spend at least one week of each cycle in a fit of rage where sex is not an option!
 

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You're such a card. I see a problem though...what if you miss your monthly goal? Where's our week 5 description?
 
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