Ren'Py Whispers of Desire [v0.15] [Mr_Fable]

[Mr Fable]

Since I have no idea about the work and effort involved, I have a question out of pure curiosity.
How much effort does it take to create the images/renderings, and approximately how much do you produce per day?

The posing and scene creation takes most time. I did half of the rendering for the first release myself, but it was difficult to do for than a few scenes per day (when you also have a full time job). Right now I have an artist who does the rendering. And I take care of animation, script and programming. We do about 300-400 renders every 6 weeks (without animations)

 

[Mr Fable]

Agree, I am a big NTS/sharing fan and do not like NTR at all. Some other games have overlapped them and it was never good. Personally, I'd prefer that they be kept separate. I don't want anything to do with cheating.

They will be separate, in the sense that if such a scenario arise , you will have the option to reject that path. You will only get cheating if you repeatedly select options that lead to that route.

 

[blkcrow20]

They will be separate, in the sense that if such a scenario arise , you will have the option to reject that path. You will only get cheating if you repeatedly select options that lead to that route.

Thank you!

 

[Eleanorduval]

They will be separate, in the sense that if such a scenario arise , you will have the option to reject that path. You will only get cheating if you repeatedly select options that lead to that route.

i prefer when there no separate path.U can perform NTR/NTS/Loyal whenever u want.

In my opinion isn’t to trying to change path all of people don’t like it,turn NTr in NTS or turning in NTS.It is like trying to change the weather suddenly lol

 

[Mr Fable]

i prefer when there no separate path.U can perform NTR/NTS/Loyal whenever u want.

Logically, it is difficult to implement this story wise. Because once you cheat, a loyal route does not have any meaning in my opinion. A better recommendation would be to replay the game in a particular route.

 

[Enlight432]

I wrote the review
I tried to be constructive, not subjective
The weaknesses don't diminish the game's value, but fixing them would definitely increase its value
But I saw two bugs that I want to mention here:
1: Inside the bar, in some places where the MC speaks, it mistakenly shows the label of the other man
2: Sara says the following dialogue, but it mistakenly shows the MC's label (I used a mod to change the name, which is why it's blurred)

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[Mr Fable]

Also when I say that routes share some parts, its mostly regarding the renderings rather than the story. For example some renderings can be same with both routes. In one route the scene is happening with the acceptance and knowledge of their partner, and the other route it's behind their back.

 

[Enlight432]

i prefer when there no separate path.U can perform NTR/NTS/Loyal whenever u want.

In my opinion isn’t to trying to change path all of people don’t like it,turn NTr in NTS or turning in NTS.It is like trying to change the weather suddenly lol

I like your idea, but in the following way:
When we are on the Netoare path, it doesn't mean the FMC stops loving the MC, nor does it mean there's no sexual relationship between the MC and FMC. Instead, it means that sexual activity between the FMC and another man also exists simultaneously
This way is beautiful because the NTR hasn't entered an emotionally destructive or purely masochistic state

Personally, I hate NTR when the FMC and MC start hating each other, and gradually the FMC forms a family with the "bull" etc. This style is more common in Japanese games than Western ones

 

[Mr Fable]

I wrote the review
I tried to be constructive, not subjective
The weaknesses don't diminish the game's value, but fixing them would definitely increase its value
But I saw two bugs that I want to mention here:
1: Inside the bar, in some places where the MC speaks, it mistakenly shows the label of the other man
2: Sara says the following dialogue, but it mistakenly shows the MC's label (I used a mod to change the name, which is why it's blurred)

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Thank you for the review. Some of the suggestions are already implemented in the second release such as the the ability to change names.
Right now I am doing the animations, which explains the subpar quality. I plan to hire a more seasoned animator if we get enough support.

 

[blkcrow20]

I like your idea, but in the following way:
When we are on the Netoare path, it doesn't mean the FMC stops loving the MC, nor does it mean there's no sexual relationship between the MC and FMC. Instead, it means that sexual activity between the FMC and another man also exists simultaneously
This way is beautiful because the NTR hasn't entered an emotionally destructive or purely masochistic state

Personally, I hate NTR when the FMC and MC start hating each other, and gradually the FMC forms a family with the "bull" etc. This style is more common in Japanese games than Western ones

I don't like NTR/cheating at all in any form. I avoid it whenever I can.

 

[Enlight432]

Also when I say that routes share some parts, its mostly regarding the renderings rather than the story. For example some renderings can be same with both routes. In one route the scene is happening with the acceptance and knowledge of their partner, and the other route it's behind their back.

A very good approach! Great
This ensures that having diverse paths doesn't significantly slow down updates, because the renders are reused, and that's perfectly fine
I just wanted to admire this good approach

 

[Eleanorduval]

I don't like NTR/cheating at all in any form. I avoid it whenever I can.

Same for me! My only worry is it a system pts game if I understand,so same choices can be not evident no?Plus u should always keep a eyes on the variable

 

[Enlight432]

I don't like NTR/cheating at all in any form. I avoid it whenever I can.

Don't worry, it's avoidable
I like everything as long as it's implemented beautifully and artistically
Some games implement NTR very simply and poorly: the FMC betrays due to simple lust, and then this betrayal turns into hatred, arguments, and huge drama between the MC and FMC
In my opinion, an artistic implementation of NTR is when the driving force comes from an external source. This means the MC or FMC are not inherently at fault. That external force, which could be an external person or complex external circumstances, pressures the FMC to betray of her own free will, while simultaneously the love and relationship with the MC still exist

 

[Enlight432]

Same for me! My only worry is it a system pts game if I understand,so same choices can be not evident no?Plus u should always keep a eyes on the variable

This problem didn't exist in the first update
At the point where the MC didn't warn Sarah about Neil, a specific variable was stored behind the scenes, meaning no change occurred in the points

And I assume the happiness variable is entirely for the Netoare path
So my guess is that this problem you referred to will not exist in this game

 

[blkcrow20]

Don't worry, it's avoidable
I like everything as long as it's implemented beautifully and artistically
Some games implement NTR very simply and poorly: the FMC betrays due to simple lust, and then this betrayal turns into hatred, arguments, and huge drama between the MC and FMC
In my opinion, an artistic implementation of NTR is when the driving force comes from an external source. This means the MC or FMC are not inherently at fault. That external force, which could be an external person or complex external circumstances, pressures the FMC to betray of her own free will, while simultaneously the love and relationship with the MC still exist

Yes, so far it has been avoidable. I'm happy for that. And Mr Fable seemed to clarify it will stay that way.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Don't worry, it's avoidable
I like everything as long as it's implemented beautifully and artistically
Some games implement NTR very simply and poorly: the FMC betrays due to simple lust, and then this betrayal turns into hatred, arguments, and huge drama between the MC and FMC
In my opinion, an artistic implementation of NTR is when the driving force comes from an external source. This means the MC or FMC are not inherently at fault. That external force, which could be an external person or complex external circumstances, pressures the FMC to betray of her own free will, while simultaneously the love and relationship with the MC still exist

NTR doesn’t necessarily need extreme force.All u need a skill of persuasion and charming the wife,and she willingly let her guard off.

 

[Enlight432]

NTR doesn’t necessarily need extreme force.All u need a skill of persuasion and charming the wife,and she willingly let her guard off.

Yes, I know. Even if the waifu cheats for no reason and just because she's a slut, it's still considered Netoare. My point was about its implementation methods

 

[Eleanorduval]

Yes, I know. Even if the waifu cheats for no reason and just because she's a slut, it's still considered Netoare. My point was about its implementation methods

I still need to find time to try the game.A lot of games and little time lol Dev should translate the game in French,Italian and German languages they represent a huge community of players

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

sidetake, this entire forum culture is held hostage by this silly niche concept.

 

[Eleanorduval]

sidetake, this entire forum culture is held hostage by this silly niche concept.

yeah most forums sound like a philosophical debate on some notion lol usually I don’t involve but I m bored lol