Saerwen

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Seems I gotta restart to make Sarah more dominant. There were a couple of options this update where she can tease Alex but they were grayed out for me.
There is? Nice, assertive fmcs are lacking, thanks for the info!
 

Gicoo

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So the wife got two new bulls, a masseur and Neil porn to masturbate to.
The husband got Emma licking her finger.

At this point, just drop the husband as a controllable MC and focus entirely on the wife. That way you satisfy the 95% majority of NTR fans who want to watch the wife getting railed and the husband cucked. And the niche reverse NTR fans who wait to see the husband cheat on his wife with seductive girls won't complain any more. Rather a game that focuses on one thing well than one that tries to please all sides, and pretends to be equal just to be one-sided in practice.
 

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So the wife got two new bulls, a masseur and Neil porn to masturbate to.
The husband got Emma licking her finger.

At this point, just drop the husband as a controllable MC and focus entirely on the wife. That way you satisfy the 95% majority of NTR fans who want to watch the wife getting railed and the husband cucked. And the niche reverse NTR fans who wait to see the husband cheat on his wife with seductive girls won't complain any more. Rather a game that focuses on one thing well than one that tries to please all sides, and pretends to be equal just to be one-sided in practice.
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Mr Fable

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So the wife got two new bulls, a masseur and Neil porn to masturbate to.
The husband got Emma licking her finger.

At this point, just drop the husband as a controllable MC and focus entirely on the wife. That way you satisfy the 95% majority of NTR fans who want to watch the wife getting railed and the husband cucked. And the niche reverse NTR fans who wait to see the husband cheat on his wife with seductive girls won't complain any more. Rather a game that focuses on one thing well than one that tries to please all sides, and pretends to be equal just to be one-sided in practice.
As I have mentioned before, FMC will have more content than MC overall. It will not be equal. And MC storyline will have more progression in coming updates.
 

psychedevil

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I get the following error when I try to view a phone message from "wifey" after the photoshoot.

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/act4/act4c_first_photoshoot.rpy", line 592, in script
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 349, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 353, in <module>
KeyError: 'sarah_alex_index'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "game/act4/act4c_first_photoshoot.rpy", line 592, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 2231, in execute
self.call("execute")
~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/ast.py", line 2195, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/statements.py", line 379, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 485, in execute_pause
renpy.pause()
~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/exports/statementexports.py", line 198, in pause
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="pause", type="pause", roll_forward=roll_forward, pause=delay, pause_modal=modal)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/ui.py", line 304, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2219, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^
preloads=preloads,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...<4 lines>...
**kwargs,
^^^^^^^^^
) # type: ignore
^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2757, in interact_core
root_widget.visit_all(lambda d: d.per_interact())
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 503, in visit_all
callback(self)
~~~~~~~~^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2757, in <lambda>
root_widget.visit_all(lambda d: d.per_interact())
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 514, in per_interact
self.update()
~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 715, in update
self.screen.function(**self.scope)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 349, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 353, in <module>
KeyError: 'sarah_alex_index'

Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.4.1.25072401
Whispers_of_Desire 0.35
Sun Nov 23 09:15:41 2025
```
 

DressedToThrill

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The Whispers of Desire!
My hair is set on fire!
I wish I could retire!
My boss is such a liar!
Our enemies conspire!
My car's got a flat tire.
I'm warm, I must perspire!
Too low, come let's go higher!
I'm handing out a flyer!
Tell us good news, town crier!
Our wife's so cheap, come buy her!
 

MagicMan753

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As I have mentioned before, FMC will have more content than MC overall. It will not be equal.
I guess this is first I am seeing you mention this. I feel really letdown now. Like why should I get invested in girls Like Emma, Eva, or other girls when I will just get no time with them, but maybe every so often and small amounts.

This feels like its telling me. The female cast just doesn't matter as much, since MC will just get bits and pieces while Sarah gets so much more and everything.

Maybe you should have just made Sarah the full protagonist. I was hoping for more equal content, but now I don't know how to feel, just feels like what do I have to look forward to right now. Emma won't get much ever based on this statement.
I enjoy Sarah, but was really looking forward to extended time as MC, with Emma and other girls, now feels like that won't really ever happen, cause we will never get focus or time like Sarah segments gets, I mean just look how short Emma lunch date was.

Just feel letdown and sad.
 
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Joshy92

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I admit I didn't know that either. I do prefer playing as Alex because I can self insert but that also means I care more about his interactions with Sarah.
 

OllisNews

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I actually thought that the update would bring more, but I was disappointed. The progress remains slight (!). I think part 0.60 will really get things going?
 
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Gicoo

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And he'll love every second of it. Might even get some creampies to clean up :BootyTime:
If this game commits to this, then more power to it.

But the game established as the premise that you control both wife and husband and that you can enable them to cheat on each other (and not just one-sidely the wife on the husband). This is further emphasized with the introduction of several seductive girls which the husband is implied to be able to cheat his wife with over the course of the game. And these girls ideally also develop a teaseful if not manipulative relationship to the wife, considering that they plan to fuck her husband.

Each update drifts further away from this premise and instead solidifies as a pure regular NTR game. Which is entirely fine, but if so, then own to it and don't missguide a small part of your audience with false promises.

Freedom and choices only make sense if they lead to satisfying gameplay. If the wife rejecting every male means no content, than just make NTR unavoidable to save integretating a pointless path. If a bunch of girls are introduced for the husband to play with, but the focus lies on the husband ending up as the cuck for the wifes dozens of males, then just save yourself writing about the girls. Eva and Abigail seem to be in Neills pocket anyway, so they likely just exist so that Neil can compromize the husband once he took the bait. Jessica and the gym girl may fuck the husband, but they have the caveat that they have bulls as husbands, so its quite likely the husband can only get action if the wife gets their husbands (and considering the flow of the game, it will be written that the wife is getting more out of it).
 
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