Ren'Py Whispers of Desire [v0.35] [Mr_Fable]

[redoubt27]

Mr Fable
I really liked the update. Keep doing what you're doing.

Sarah needed some things to get her caught up to be on the same page as Alex and ready to move forward (or not), and this update did that.
Some folks seem to be complaining, just to complain, or playing paths/making choices they don't like, focusing on the micro update content, rather than the macro overall story development...
It's really bizarre behavior...
Maybe they should take a break for a while, come back after several more updates, instead of constantly bitching every damn update about stuff that hasn't happened, yet...

I'm starting to think Devs give readers too much choice... And then those readers are incapable of navigating a story with multiple paths, tones, etc... especially a VN in develop that doesn't have the ultimate destinations in the story, yet.

And stick to the pacing, don't rush it. It's perfect right now.
The NTR goons (both in and out of the closet) and those just wanting to jerk off have no patience...
Ignore their heathen blasphemies and keep simmering, low and slow...
And when we finally get to taste the gumbo, or brisket, or whatever other low and slow cooking metaphor someone wants to use, it'll just taste soooo much better... don't want to get it too hot, too fast, and risk burning/ruining the whole thing...

 

[Mr Fable]

I get the following error when I try to view a phone message from "wifey" after the photoshoot.

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/act4/act4c_first_photoshoot.rpy", line 592, in script
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 349, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 353, in <module>
KeyError: 'sarah_alex_index'

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "game/act4/act4c_first_photoshoot.rpy", line 592, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 2231, in execute
self.call("execute")
~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/ast.py", line 2195, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/statements.py", line 379, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 485, in execute_pause
renpy.pause()
~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/exports/statementexports.py", line 198, in pause
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="pause", type="pause", roll_forward=roll_forward, pause=delay, pause_modal=modal)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/ui.py", line 304, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2219, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^
preloads=preloads,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...<4 lines>...
**kwargs,
^^^^^^^^^
) # type: ignore
^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2757, in interact_core
root_widget.visit_all(lambda d: d.per_interact())
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 432, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 503, in visit_all
callback(self)
~~~~~~~~^^^^^^
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2757, in <lambda>
root_widget.visit_all(lambda d: d.per_interact())
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 514, in per_interact
self.update()
~~~~~~~~~~~^^
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 715, in update
self.screen.function(**self.scope)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 287, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 349, in execute
File "game/phone/phone.rpy", line 353, in <module>
KeyError: 'sarah_alex_index'

Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.4.1.25072401
Whispers_of_Desire 0.35
Sun Nov 23 09:15:41 2025
```

This is weird. many people have played past this point without error. Are you playing for the first time? Maybe something in the early chapters broke in the new version.

 

[TonyMurray]

I guess this is first I am seeing you mention this. I feel really letdown now. Like why should I get invested in girls Like Emma, Eva, or other girls when I will just get no time with them, but maybe every so often and small amounts.

This feels like its telling me. The female cast just doesn't matter as much, since MC will just get bits and pieces while Sarah gets so much more and everything.

Maybe you should have just made Sarah the full protagonist. I was hoping for more equal content, but now I don't know how to feel, just feels like what do I have to look forward to right now. Emma won't get much ever based on this statement.
I enjoy Sarah, but was really looking forward to extended time as MC, with Emma and other girls, now feels like that won't really ever happen, cause we will never get focus or time like Sarah segments gets, I mean just look how short Emma lunch date was.

Just feel letdown and sad.

Nothing says "no content" or only "small amounts", just that Sarah will have more content overall than Alex...

 

[Mr Fable]

I guess this is first I am seeing you mention this. I feel really letdown now. Like why should I get invested in girls Like Emma, Eva, or other girls when I will just get no time with them, but maybe every so often and small amounts.

This feels like its telling me. The female cast just doesn't matter as much, since MC will just get bits and pieces while Sarah gets so much more and everything.

Maybe you should have just made Sarah the full protagonist. I was hoping for more equal content, but now I don't know how to feel, just feels like what do I have to look forward to right now. Emma won't get much ever based on this statement.
I enjoy Sarah, but was really looking forward to extended time as MC, with Emma and other girls, now feels like that won't really ever happen, cause we will never get focus or time like Sarah segments gets, I mean just look how short Emma lunch date was.

Just feel letdown and sad.

The content wise would be 60, 40 rather than 50,50. Emma will have a lot of content coming up. But if you look at potential LIs, Sarah will have a bit more than Alex. But I think you will enjoy the content I have for MC.

 

[redoubt27]

Nothing says "no content" or only "small amounts", just that Sarah will have more content overall than Alex...

Which makes sense, OVERALL, when you think about it...
And it seems some are incapable of thinking about it and arriving at the logical, reasonable explanation...

 

[Ichigo1310]

I was disappointed of the missing reaction of sarah after the lunch between Alex and Emma, because she didn´t ask about it unlike Alex, who asks always. And i hope there is an appointment with a female therapist in the next update. This can be a chance for more massages for Sarah and Alex together with masseuses.

 

[xert13]

So far I like how this is playing out and building anticipation.

 

[Gicoo]

Which makes sense, OVERALL, when you think about it...
And it seems some are incapable of thinking about it and arriving at the logical, reasonable explanation...

Then enlighten us why expecting a 50/50 ratio for a game introducing both characters as playable main characters is faulty.

 

[redoubt27]

Then enlighten us why expecting a 50/50 ratio for a game introducing both characters as playable main characters is faulty.

I didn't say your expectations are faulty.
I said you're incapable of thinking, and arriving at the logical, reasonable explanation why Sarah may have more OVERALL content...
I thank you for supporting my case...

The paths are explained, laid out in the game, and in these comments.
Most paths will likely have a reasonably close balance of content.
A couple paths will/can be very lopsided toward Alex or Sarah, depending on reader choices.

A reader will also have a choice, to play Alex as a willing, or unwilling cuck, a voyeur...
You of course do not have to play that path.

But in the overall content of the game, those paths mean Sarah will ultimately have more OVERALL content...

That doesn't mean that specific paths, like swinging, sharing, Alex cheating, Sarah cuckquean, etc... won't be more balanced or lean in favor of Alex content.

Sarah is also the more "prudish", reserved of the two. She needs more "development" scenes to get her to the point she's willing to explore Alex's desires...
Again, this results in Sarah having more content, overall...

 

[Mr Fable]

I was disappointed of the missing reaction of sarah after the lunch between Alex and Emma, because she didn´t ask about it unlike Alex, who asks always. And i hope there is an appointment with a female therapist in the next update. This can be a chance for more massages for Sarah and Alex together with masseuses.

They didn't talk about it because it was just supposed to be work lunch( sort of). Next update Alex will have a major interaction with Emma that he can share( or not )with Sarah.

 

[redoubt27]

I was disappointed of the missing reaction of sarah after the lunch between Alex and Emma, because she didn´t ask about it unlike Alex, who asks always. And i hope there is an appointment with a female therapist in the next update. This can be a chance for more massages for Sarah and Alex together with masseuses.

In Sarah's defense, she had a lot on her mind...
It's reasonable she will, or could ask about it in the next update.

 

[Gicoo]

I didn't say your expectations are faulty.
I said you're incapable of thinking, and arriving at the logical, reasonable explanation why Sarah may have more OVERALL content...

I already pointed out thats because the game is favoring ntr over reverse ntr. Which is perfectly fine if it was introduced as such, which it wasn't.

But in the overall content of the game, those paths mean Sarah will ultimately have more OVERALL content...

Where is this stated in the game? You have the husband with a bunch of girls and the wife with a bunch of boys. There is no indication that the game emphasizes the wife getting more content with the boys than the husband with the girls.

Sarah is also the more "prudish", reserved of the two. She needs more "development" scenes to get her to the point she's willing to explore Alex's desires...
Again, this results in Sarah having more content, overall...

This means nothing, since the husband can also develop his desires extensively.


Generally, players are male and want content focused on the girls. So like 10% husband, 40% his girls, 40% the wife and 10% her boys. Which makes 50/50 in total. Never said you have to follow this formula, but claiming it to be illogical is a baseless insult.

 

[Mr Fable]

I already pointed out thats because the game is favoring ntr over reverse ntr. Which is perfectly fine if it was introduced as such, which it wasn't.




Where is this stated in the game? You have the husband with a bunch of girls and the wife with a bunch of boys. There is no indication that the game emphasizes the wife getting more content with the boys than the husband with the girls.



This means nothing, since the husband can also develop his desires extensively.


Generally, players are male and want content focused on the girls. So like 10% husband, 40% his girls, 40% the wife and 10% her boys. Which makes 50/50 in total. Never said you have to follow this formula, but claiming it to be illogical is a baseless insult.

Patience friend. Alex will get his dues.

 

[zorowang]

Did anybody able to trigger the massage in the office scene? I know the route is "Encourage her to play volleyball" then "Ask someone else to massage her" then after the texts, it abruptly moves to Sarah changing into her bikini. Is that a bug?

 

[Mr Fable]

Did anybody able to trigger the massage in the office scene? I know the route is "Encourage her to play volleyball" then "Ask someone else to massage her" then after the texts, it abruptly moves to Sarah changing into her bikini. Is that a bug?

no, to get the massage at the office you have to text Neil her photos the night before. Now there was a bug last update and I did not track the user choice for this option. So load a save before that scene (late night texting scene) and then send the photos to Neil and he will come to her office to thank for them. There if you tell him about your shoulder issue he will give a massage.

 

[redoubt27]

Mr Fable
Not sure if you're aware.
But after the massage therapy scene, Sarah says the female masseuse wasn't available, and the male did the massage.
This happens even if picking the male masseuse in the first place.
Just a small detail.

 

[Mr Fable]

Mr Fable
Not sure if you're aware.
But after the massage therapy scene, Sarah says the female masseuse wasn't available, and the male did the massage.
This happens even if picking the male masseuse in the first place.
Just a small detail.

Thank you, I will fix that.

 

[Thickgravy49]

Mr Fable
I really liked the update. Keep doing what you're doing.

Sarah needed some things to get her caught up to be on the same page as Alex and ready to move forward (or not), and this update did that.
Some folks seem to be complaining, just to complain, or playing paths/making choices they don't like, focusing on the micro update content, rather than the macro overall story development...
It's really bizarre behavior...
Maybe they should take a break for a while, come back after several more updates, instead of constantly bitching every damn update about stuff that hasn't happened, yet...

I'm starting to think Devs give readers too much choice... And then those readers are incapable of navigating a story with multiple paths, tones, etc... especially a VN in develop that doesn't have the ultimate destinations in the story, yet.

And stick to the pacing, don't rush it. It's perfect right now.
The NTR goons (both in and out of the closet) and those just wanting to jerk off have no patience...
Ignore their heathen blasphemies and keep simmering, low and slow...
And when we finally get to taste the gumbo, or brisket, or whatever other low and slow cooking metaphor someone wants to use, it'll just taste soooo much better... don't want to get it too hot, too fast, and risk burning/ruining the whole thing...

Assuming you get the 'gumbo' in the end, which based on how many of these slow-tease, slow-burn games get abandoned, that's a rather large assumption.

It's a fact that most tease and blue-ball for years, then die before anyone gets to taste any real 'gumbo' at all.

 

[Mr Fable]

Assuming you get the 'gumbo' in the end, which based on how many of these slow-tease, slow-burn games get abandoned, that's a rather large assumption.

It's a fact that most tease and blue-ball for years, then die before anyone gets to taste any real 'gumbo' at all.

But just to point out that this game has more hscenes in a short period compared to many other slow burn games , even though actual cheating / swinging is yet to happen.

 

[zorowang]

no, to get the massage at the office you have to text Neil her photos the night before. Now there was a bug last update and I did not track the user choice for this option. So load a save before that scene (late night texting scene) and then send the photos to Neil and he will come to her office to thank for them. There if you tell him about your shoulder issue he will give a massage.

Ok thanks for the tip!