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Neither do empty promises without an update while all the while milking paying supporters. I'd say of the two, that tag is the lesser of two evils.
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I stumbled upon this thread while cleaning up some old games on my PC. This made me look again at the last updates for Whoremaker:
- Release 20 was in May 2020, when Dopefish was still releasing some new versions every few months
- Release 21 was in June 2020, one month later
- Release 22 was in September 2020, three months later
- Release 23 was in January 2021, four months later (and that was four years ago)
- Release 24 was in May 2023, more than two years later (twenty months ago)
- The last message "Still Alive!" was in May 2024, a year after release 24, but without any new content.
But I do not blame Dopefish either: at some point, working on a game like this becomes less fun and there are other priorities in life. Many game authors move on to other things when their creative spark and their motivation start faltering. We are all human, and that's fine.
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Real life has unfortunately curbstomped Dopefish for a while, and unfortunately he doesn't have a lot of time for hobbies. He does promise an update this year, though. (From the WM discord yesterday). There are also some community members working on additional scenes and the like.
He remains active in the discord, which is a good sign. He just doesn't have the energy to put a lot towards the game.
He remains active in the discord, which is a good sign. He just doesn't have the energy to put a lot towards the game.
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If you go back farther he had about yearly releases on average. This said it might be dead, or we might get another small content release by end of year, maybe 1 new character and like 5-8 events tops.
For context I was following this when it was only on TFGames.
Did the last update (v.24) break the game?
You automatically get Cody as slave #3. If you refuse Cody, you get automatically a (broken) male "Test" slave.
Male slaves at start generate around zero income per week since nobody wants to see them. (it gets better over time.)
The 3rd slave quarters costs 3,250 $. (The 4th 4,750 $)
To turn Cody into a shemale during the event, you need to first install the Robotic Operating Suite for 4,000 $ with 40 $ upkeep per week.
That's 7,250 $ upfront to earn by only 2 slaves while you also have to pay the increasing rents (2,000+ $) every 8 weeks. And the male slave won't even cover the 40 $ upkeep per week (for the Robotic Operating Suite) for a long time, so it seems to be a huge investment which actually reduces your income for a while.
It would have been better if the player could decide when to get a male/shemale slave instead of automatically setting him at position #3.
Edit :
Cody is broken. Even if you turn him into a shemale from the beginning, the selected videos feature a regular male model for gay and female audience, so the game becomes less interesting for straight players who are now forced to view naked male content every week. (Probably best to set Cody to None once cash is no longer a problem.)
You can find the previous (pre-Cody) version(s) on
You automatically get Cody as slave #3. If you refuse Cody, you get automatically a (broken) male "Test" slave.
Male slaves at start generate around zero income per week since nobody wants to see them. (it gets better over time.)
The 3rd slave quarters costs 3,250 $. (The 4th 4,750 $)
To turn Cody into a shemale during the event, you need to first install the Robotic Operating Suite for 4,000 $ with 40 $ upkeep per week.
That's 7,250 $ upfront to earn by only 2 slaves while you also have to pay the increasing rents (2,000+ $) every 8 weeks. And the male slave won't even cover the 40 $ upkeep per week (for the Robotic Operating Suite) for a long time, so it seems to be a huge investment which actually reduces your income for a while.
It would have been better if the player could decide when to get a male/shemale slave instead of automatically setting him at position #3.
Edit :
Cody is broken. Even if you turn him into a shemale from the beginning, the selected videos feature a regular male model for gay and female audience, so the game becomes less interesting for straight players who are now forced to view naked male content every week. (Probably best to set Cody to None once cash is no longer a problem.)
You can find the previous (pre-Cody) version(s) on
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For the Economy section of the weekly summary it would be really helpful to seperate the earnings and the investments in detail. Currently the game just checks total amounts at the start of the week and reports the difference. It also lists the values of income and upkeep which are always available in the left sidebar.
Example :
If you earn 500 $ but invest 750 $ in a specific week, the game just reports a loss of 250 $. However the 750 $ are a one time investment while the 500 $ are the current value of (increasing) weekly income and so a useful value for planning ahead.
Example :
If you earn 500 $ but invest 750 $ in a specific week, the game just reports a loss of 250 $. However the 750 $ are a one time investment while the 500 $ are the current value of (increasing) weekly income and so a useful value for planning ahead.
The current rent system where the mc has to pay 400 $ in week 8, 800 $ in week 16, 1,200 $ in week 24, and so on is a bit restraining. Especially in early game the mc's income is largely affected by RNG events which can swing both ways (eg find 400 $, pay 2,000 $). The player usually has to delay bigger investments until after a payment to be on the safe side.
An interest based system might be more interesting and would give the player more freedom and a challenge :
- start with 30,000 $ debt and add 1% interest per week.
- player can decide if he pays a certain amount (one time), set a certain amount to pay per week or pause payments for some time while investing more into the brothel
- if player pays less than the interest, than the debt will rise, eg skip paying interest for the complete year 1 and the debt will go up from 30k to ca 50k with weekly interest increasing from 300 to 500 per week.
- have a deadline when the debt has to be completely paid, eg after year 2 or 3.
An interest based system might be more interesting and would give the player more freedom and a challenge :
- start with 30,000 $ debt and add 1% interest per week.
- player can decide if he pays a certain amount (one time), set a certain amount to pay per week or pause payments for some time while investing more into the brothel
- if player pays less than the interest, than the debt will rise, eg skip paying interest for the complete year 1 and the debt will go up from 30k to ca 50k with weekly interest increasing from 300 to 500 per week.
- have a deadline when the debt has to be completely paid, eg after year 2 or 3.
It seems that events for sub and sissy path are locked behind certain requirements :
- for Rebecca to dom mc, her dom skill must be significantly above mc's influence value
- after some point new feminity events require for the mc to serve male clients (gay content)
- higher submissiveness unlocks more scene variants
- the mc must hire Bruce and have sex with him repeatedly to further increase feminity
It's unfortunate that femdom, feminization, crossdressing content is all connected with gay content. Players who watch femdom content are usually not that interested in gay content since otherwise they would rather look for maledom / gaydom content.
Maybe add a path where mc can play alone with the girls and more lesbian content, also shemale on female content, ...
- for Rebecca to dom mc, her dom skill must be significantly above mc's influence value
- after some point new feminity events require for the mc to serve male clients (gay content)
- higher submissiveness unlocks more scene variants
- the mc must hire Bruce and have sex with him repeatedly to further increase feminity
It's unfortunate that femdom, feminization, crossdressing content is all connected with gay content. Players who watch femdom content are usually not that interested in gay content since otherwise they would rather look for maledom / gaydom content.
Maybe add a path where mc can play alone with the girls and more lesbian content, also shemale on female content, ...
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