- Aug 22, 2018
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There are 2 mother and daughter families too.
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Shh! Keep it down the Patreon Police might hear you!
That'll be in the future for sure by the looks of it yeah, and the 2 Mother-Daughter pairs I guess.
I know right! That's why i zipped it as well. To many times, i go to get a patch and it opens in Notepad or something, lol.
1. I kinda locked myself in that intro segment, because it was part of the Prologue before. I see that it's too long and needs an overhaul, and also an option to just skip it. This was one of the consequences of my decision to stop the sandbox work and stay straight VN as i originally had a whole different "hub" kinda thing planned for directing the flow of the story.So a quick first impression ...
1. That intro was incredibly painful. It's been mentioned before so I won't belabor the point, but it's quickly very frustrating ... and, yeah, of course, Ren'py allows skipping unread text, but you'd assume there's critical information there, not just random stuff. I'm not saying you can't have the player set names/nicknames and put a NTR warning there, or whatever, but don't go on rants (much as I can understand the urge); be crisp about what's needed, and if you want to do go on NTR rants and dev logs and wherever, do that where it can be quickly skipped ... separate from the actual game.
2. The italic font is very thin and not necessary perfect for reading. I mean, it could be worse. But it also could be better.
3. Speaking of Italy: YOU AREN'T ALLOWED ON THE LAWN at the Piazza del Duomo. Frankly, the guy deservers to be in jail and this oversight makes the game absolutely unplayable!!! It completely undermines the setup!!!!!
4. Personal preference, but I'm not a big fan of being capable of reading other character's minds (esp. just when it's convenient ). Should be unnecessary.
5. Too many "Haha"s I'd say. Most of them can also safely be removed - or at least it should be more varied, or something. But typically you don't need them, vns do tone through context (and visuals).
... also, yeah, just kidding about #3. In case that's not clear ^^ Though it is indeed not allowed, that photo could have easily gotten them into trouble
Anyway. Pretty solid what I've seen so far. Feels non-generic, which is always a plus.
After Christmas, I think I am going to look hard at how I can improve that beginning and perhaps do a quick update/hotfix for it.
2. I was thinking about playing with the fonts a bit more, but it got lost in the last minute stuff. I'll see about making it a bit bigger. Not sure if you noticed, but you can adjust the text window transparency in this game, so that helps a bit.
3. I did not know that , lol. That's actually one of the very first renders from the prologue. Italy is one place i didn't get to when I worked in Europe (long time ago)
4 and 5. I'm still learning the skills in the writing department. So much of what I want to convey is visual, but I am just not at the level yet to do animations and every render is a ton of work. I'll get better!
Appreciate the feedback!
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Turning Tricks Dev I'm just going to tell you that I did a quick game check and this is going to get the Ban Hammer on f95 per rule 7 for sure, the daughters of most women in the game don't look very developed for being "over 18", and iirc Patreon also has problems with that, or you make a Patch with all that content outside the game or open an account in SS, to have a backup accou.
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There won't be any content with the Ex. The MC despises what she did. At most, there might be some reference to her off scene for contextual purposes. What Avaron1974 said about the MD stuff and the possible MFF content is pretty much dead on.
I have it on good authority though, that the maker of the patch
will probably be adding a fork in Act 2 where ...The MC tries to reconnect with his daughter and can choose one of two paths, one of which will be incest content with her.
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Wait, we get to rename characters like the prison guard, friend and tenants... but not the actual daughter?... I wonder if that means she won't be appearing in the game...
This is somewhat promising... It feels like maybe you get locked into a path over fairly small decision though - I'm on the love path with the grandmothery one (I guess just because I chose to have a beer with her, out of pity), despite not being interested in her at all, and end up having to fuck her with no choice about it, which was odd... also I wonder why the daughters are all listed as "side character" they seem as important as the others, perhaps they only have one route?... Oh and I actually wanted to bareback the dirty homeless girl for $20.
Very glad it's not a sandbox, that'd definitely have just made it a ballache for 0 gain.
But yeah I'd play some more for sure.
This is somewhat promising... It feels like maybe you get locked into a path over fairly small decision though - I'm on the love path with the grandmothery one (I guess just because I chose to have a beer with her, out of pity), despite not being interested in her at all, and end up having to fuck her with no choice about it, which was odd... also I wonder why the daughters are all listed as "side character" they seem as important as the others, perhaps they only have one route?... Oh and I actually wanted to bareback the dirty homeless girl for $20.
Very glad it's not a sandbox, that'd definitely have just made it a ballache for 0 gain.
But yeah I'd play some more for sure.
- Aug 22, 2018
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I don't want to spoil the devs plans but don't worry about the granny, you won't end up in a relationship with her. She's married for starters. She wants a bit of fun but isn't looking for anything long term.
The homeless girl has a bigger role which is why you didn't get to treat her like shit then.
The younger girls are side characters in their mothers stories and the MC's daughter is going to be in the game.
I'll just add...
I wasn't sure I would have the daughter in future content when I created her in the Prologue and I had some renders showing her diploma and stuff, so that is why I had her name locked. I've changed my plans though and for Act 2, before you actually meet her, I will have her fully customizable as well.
As for Laura ...
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Well, first of all, the Ex is a character in the MC's past that is central to the story. She's not an LI and, in fact, will not appear in the rest of the story, other then as a possible mention (for context) by the MC and/or his daughter. So if that's an issue for you .... I dunno *shrug*
Secondly, I clearly state in the intro that these are supposed to be real people and some of them have pasts. Again, I'm not bending time or changing reality to turn a mature mother who just happens to be a stripper into a 'pure-as-driven-snow' virgin. And if you ever actually spent time in a strip club or knew any strippers, you'd know that most of them will not allow you to even touch them. Heck, many clubs will toss you on your ass if you even try. Not saying there aren't a lot that will do that stuff in the back, but it's not the norm. Especially for the good ones.
Don't beat a dead horse. They're obsessed and they will see their particular ghost everywhere, even where you, the creator of the creature, can't see it. You have an interesting premise here.
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I just can't with you anti ntr lot anymore.
Stripping isn't ntr, ntr is having a love one taken and causing jealousy.
The ex isn't a love interest, she's there for story purposes and won't ever appear again.....
This isn't a harem builder where you are going to be the be all and end all of every girl and keep them all to yourself, they have lives. Some are in relationships.
The cheating wife is necessary story wise. It's kind of the whole premise of the game. And considering April is literally a stripper, I don't know why you're complaining that she's dancing for people. If you turned NTR on you'd see that she doesn't do anything besides dancing - not even any touching(she only did in the NTR scene to make MC jealous for fucking her colleague right next to her, and even then she didn't fuck her client).
wait did i not readed that it is not alowed to touch stripper or they will toss yout out? i am little bit confused with this now
she doesnt do anything beside dancing/ she did it to make MC jealouse in one sentence... It don't matter if it's necessary story wise.
if we playing a non ntr path it could have just had the mc explaining it on that part instead of showing the wife cheating with the boss come on now. No way a scene like that should be on a non ntr paths and it's ways to do it.
back to april. I never said it was ntr, I said it was a bad look.
even if no one touches her it still ruins her for me personally so fuck that.
like I said if you enjoy it more power to you but not me so imma move on. even april was trying to make the mc jealous NOW THAT IS NTR because it was to cause jealousy.
it's obvious if you going for a non ntr route it still has a form of ntr and baiting in it.
why make a ntr off switch and say it will be different paths then?
It's a private room and they say the bouncer looks the other way. April doesn't allow any touching except for the one scene to make MC jealous, other stripper fucks MC to make April jealous.
and now i am definitely confused....so they will toss u out from touching but u can fuck them....s
Don't worry dev - everybody sees that was a crazy hypersensitive outlier on the anti-NTR spectrum. Stay the course.