why are people afraid of NTR ?

[lancelotdulak]

I find it fucking HILLARIOUS the 3 or 4 ntr dudes in this thread are screaming "if you dont Love my fetish youre a gay bigot who hates sex but secretly masterbates to it then downrates it because youre gayyyyyyy". Jesus you people really are loons lmfao. I dont actually care if you like ntr lol. But the ntr people in this thread are whackjobs with serious issues

 

[morphnet]

look at the top right of your page
type NTR in search field
check "search titles only"
click search....

you are welcome

 

[SPACE!man]

So, I had to Google what NTR even was for this... I think people hate it (they're not afraid, they just hate it) cos people are hardwired to hate cheating. I mean, people like cheating cos they get a thrill out of it, but most are hardwired to hate betrayal, especially those on an emotional level. Which is ironic cos there's people out there who say they hate cheating but cheat themselves...

Anyway, people just dislike it due to societal values, we've been brought up to dislike it, so there's resistance to it. Cos who likes being cheated on? As for if I like it, I'm not a fan myself. I mean, I like the idea of going about, fucking everyone, but generally not behind my partner's back. It'd be more of a open-relationship deal for me, cheating's just not my bag.

But yeah, that's why people dislike it. That and the cheater/cheatee/both parties are often absolute cunts. I mean, honestly, I've never seen a NTR thing where someone isn't like "Oh, my husband's tiny dick won't please me! I'm glad we're fucking on his dead grandma's ashes! Go on, take a shit in the urn!". I mean, you never see an NTR where it's someone cheating on their partner cos their partner is kicking the shit out of them and they found someone who's genuinely a nice person who loves them for them (it's the only time I agree with NTR, when it's a really shitty situation. Otherwise, just break up, why bother cheating? It's just having your cake and eating it). But I think you get my point by now.

Thank god I double googled this or I'd be talking about cuckolding (NTR is apparently mistaken for cuckolding). Thankfully dodge making that mistake!

 

[blackoni]

People insert themselves too strongly in porn, like someone that stops watching a pornstar after she does something he doesn't like "she's tainted" lol

I love me some NTR and how it can be a challenge to overcome with your girl(s) at stake.
But personally, games like Dark Hero Party are too heavy handed, humiliation is the least of the worries, the protagonist gets massacred!

 

[APSabot]

For the amount of it that exists most NTR is just bad. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of terrible adult content out there, but several core NTR tropes are also signs of bad stories in any other context
-Spinless MC. being forced to play as a weak willed MC turns a lot of folks off.
-ugly/old fat man. Lots of people appreciate high quality visuals and CGs and the common fat old perve trope goes directly against good art.
-stupid women/stupid bystanders. lets be honest, many NTR have the women and surrounding people act barely better than the useless MC. stories filled with weak characters only have the fetish going for them.

If most NTR had a half decent MC and the NTR'er actually had to work to win, rather than having the porn equivalent of plot armor i think many of the critics, save those who just don't want to watch cucking would pipe down. Further, well executed NTR with good conflict would be a strong literary argument for NTR lovers.

Another issue with NTR is that the execution has to be blatant to fulfill the fetish. For example; most people don't support rape, but in most adult media that includes it the rape can almost be ignored and would be hard to detect if you stripped out the sounds and words. because of this, it generates less resistance. the same cannot be said for NTR. if you strip out the words most NTR would vanish right there because the context of this particular genera of cheating is required to make it NTR and the emotional response unique to NTR is required. this is why I think NTR draws a strong reaction, because it is hard to ignore, but other cheating/swinging/open relationship stories do not because they're not focused on drawing out that particular set of emotions.

 

[Lunamaria]

For the amount of it that exists most NTR is just bad. Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of terrible adult content out there, but several core NTR tropes are also signs of bad stories in any other context
-Spinless MC. being forced to play as a weak willed MC turns a lot of folks off.
-ugly/old fat man. Lots of people appreciate high quality visuals and CGs and the common fat old perve trope goes directly against good art.
-stupid women/stupid bystanders. lets be honest, many NTR have the women and surrounding people act barely better than the useless MC. stories filled with weak characters only have the fetish going for them.

If most NTR had a half decent MC and the NTR'er actually had to work to win, rather than having the porn equivalent of plot armor i think many of the critics, save those who just don't want to watch cucking would pipe down. Further, well executed NTR with good conflict would be a strong literary argument for NTR lovers.

Another issue with NTR is that the execution has to be blatant to fulfill the fetish. For example; most people don't support rape, but in most adult media that includes it the rape can almost be ignored and would be hard to detect if you stripped out the sounds and words. because of this, it generates less resistance. the same cannot be said for NTR. if you strip out the words most NTR would vanish right there because the context of this particular genera of cheating is required to make it NTR and the emotional response unique to NTR is required. this is why I think NTR draws a strong reaction, because it is hard to ignore, but other cheating/swinging/open relationship stories do not because they're not focused on drawing out that particular set of emotions.

Pretty much all of that applies to vanilla/harems as well.
-The MC may not be spineless but he's usually bland so that people can self insert. He has no discernible personality traits outside of being nice or a dick. There is rarely anything in-between.
-The guys in vanilla are usually little boys or normal skinny guys.
-The women in harems are some of the dumbest most bland characters in fiction. They all follow the same personality tropes as the girls in the next game over. Their lives revolve around the protagonist and they have very little interests outside of fucking him. Any traits they could have are discarded once they get involved with him because they have to be docile and non threatening towards him or else the audience will get upset. They rarely have male friends or past lovers because that's threatening to the audience.

What you're describing isn't an NTR problem. It's a hentai problem because people copy each other for success. The whole rape thing you're describing is in tons of other genres. There are games/doujin where the guy rapes the girl into being with him all the time. It isn't strictly in NTR. I mean fuck, look at DMD probably the most popular game on the site. The only interesting character in it is the mother because she's actually getting a character arc while all the other girls are just "me want dick from bland dad fucking his daughter and me no care who else want it!"

 

[tanstaafl]

People insert themselves too strongly in porn, like someone that stops watching a pornstar after she does something he doesn't like "she's tainted" lol

I love me some NTR and how it can be a challenge to overcome with your girl(s) at stake.
But personally, games like Dark Hero Party are too heavy handed, humiliation is the least of the worries, the protagonist gets massacred!

This is quite possibly the worst take on this I've seen yet. Not the NTR bit, I have no issues with NTR that doesn't involve rape, but the comparison of these games to a porn video. The vast majority of these games are made by people with jobs who give up free time to make them. A lot of free time, mind you. Most of these games also contain honest efforts by people to provide an actual plot/story to go along with the rest of it. This attitude of "it's just porn" is insulting to the devs of these games and belittles the efforts that went into them.

 

[Kind Nightmares]

I'm not against, but not completely for it.

On this site, it's so rare for me to find a game where I will not be disgusted or dissapointed with the main character. Most of them are perverted creepy assholes. Don't get me wrong, I like playing as a charismatic assholes, but not as a pathetic perverts with one twist. Therefore, I never relate myself to them and perceive myself only as a reader and I absolutely don't give a shit what happens to such a mc, so if he also loses his favorite girl as a bonus (not necessarily for another man), that's great.

 

[blackoni]

This is quite possibly the worst take on this I've seen yet. Not the NTR bit, I have no issues with NTR that doesn't involve rape, but the comparison of these games to a porn video. The vast majority of these games are made by people with jobs who give up free time to make them. A lot of free time, mind you. Most of these games also contain honest efforts by people to provide an actual plot/story to go along with the rest of it. This attitude of "it's just porn" is insulting to the devs of these games and belittles the efforts that went into them.

There was a person in this thread that said exactly the example I gave, It was my bad for not directly quoting it, sorry.

I did not belittle any creator of games or porn videos at all, they're doing a great work.
I'm talking about people hating on games for simply disliking a fetish that's in a game.
Games that like you said, devs put a lot of effort into.

 

[Buddawg]

Who on earth is afraid of NTR. Its just so pointless. Youre playing a game where you can fuck the partner, and instead you want to watch someone else fuck her. You can get that from any and all generic porn that isnt pov.
Well tbh, I dont go for it in games here, mostly because I find its written horribly. Rape, old, disgusting ppl (both visual and personality counts here), very often engrish, usually lacks a point in games where its not the center, almost always degrading to the point where its cringy. Everything is good if well done, but ive still to find one that meassures up.
Its much like Femdom these days. Its become negative in its aspects, because ppl push the limits instead of going for realism. Its more about hurting than domming, degrading instead of guiding. Its become american politics, its either too much or noone pays attention. And that bores the fuck out of me.

 

[Deleted member 2679127]

I think it's like cuck porn, personally I don't like any idea of cheating,cuck, or NTR. I'm new though and this is my first comment, the fetish just puts me off.

 

[CIover]

Who on earth is afraid of NTR. Its just so pointless. Youre playing a game where you can fuck the partner, and instead you want to watch someone else fuck her. You can get that from any and all generic porn that isnt pov.
Well tbh, I dont go for it in games here, mostly because I find its written horribly. Rape, old, disgusting ppl (both visual and personality counts here), very often engrish, usually lacks a point in games where its not the center, almost always degrading to the point where its cringy. Everything is good if well done, but ive still to find one that meassures up.
Its much like Femdom these days. Its become negative in its aspects, because ppl push the limits instead of going for realism. Its more about hurting than domming, degrading instead of guiding. Its become american politics, its either too much or noone pays attention. And that bores the fuck out of me.

Fetishes are subjective though and it varies from person to person like religion "We don't have the same beliefs". Like your definition of Femdom driven by pain, the Masochist that likes to afflict pain and the Submissive that wants pain "A match made in heaven". It can go from a more healthy approach like "What's your safeword" to "There's no safeword, take it like the Sub you are" and yup the people that like the latter actually exist and yeah it gets ridiculous really fast "Slippery slope" so Realism they check out. So you not liking it is pretty much saying you just don't swing that way that's why it bores you and if you want the healthy approach then yeah it would be hard to find it here since we're talking about imagination here and anything goes when it comes to imagination "Though i do remember a game that tries the healthy approach of Femdom so i do think it exist but i forgot the title, Sorry."

Now the NTR side of the fence and the question being asked why are some people afraid of NTR is pretty much a no brainer since it's pretty much like "Why are some people afraid of Spiders". I do have a theory why the Anti NTR Movement are really vocal about it and strongly opinionated and that seems to be self projection and yeah i mean it happened to them IRL or they witnessed an actual NTR in progress since how can you hate something you don't know? Afraid to find out? Pretty weak flag to trigger a "I HATE NTR", maybe. It could be as light as their favorite anime or TV series have some mild to downright awful cheating scenario to happening to them IRL or witnessing it IRL. Summarizing they have experience of the infamous NTR and they have the NTR tag in their life at some point and they can't take it.

 

[CIover]

I think it's like cuck porn, personally I don't like any idea of cheating,cuck, or NTR. I'm new though and this is my first comment, the fetish just puts me off.

The reason for his question is coz he's seen the very vocal and passionate Anti NTR Movement that Kink shames NTR with hate and impunity. You will find the classic "Oh NTR tag, i'm skipping this, Not Downloading." nobody really cares what you download though so i don't get the comment really. It's turning into a meme "Probably a meme already" so yeah some people are actually curious why they behave like that.

 

[Buddawg]

Fetishes are subjective though and it varies from person to person like religion "We don't have the same beliefs". Like your definition of Femdom driven by pain, the Masochist that likes to afflict pain and the Submissive that wants pain "A match made in heaven". It can go from a more healthy approach like "What's your safeword" to "There's no safeword, take it like the Sub you are" and yup the people that like the latter actually exist and yeah it gets ridiculous really fast "Slippery slope" so Realism they check out. So you not liking it is pretty much saying you just don't swing that way that's why it bores you and if you want the healthy approach then yeah it would be hard to find it here since we're talking about imagination here and anything goes when it comes to imagination "Though i do remember a game that tries the healthy approach of Femdom so i do think it exist but i forgot the title, Sorry."

Now the NTR side of the fence and the question being asked why are some people afraid of NTR is pretty much a no brainer since it's pretty much like "Why are some people afraid of Spiders". I do have a theory why the Anti NTR Movement are really vocal about it and strongly opinionated and that seems to be self projection and yeah i mean it happened to them IRL or they witnessed an actual NTR in progress since how can you hate something you don't know? Afraid to find out? Pretty weak flag to trigger a "I HATE NTR", maybe. It could be as light as their favorite anime or TV series have some mild to downright awful cheating scenario to happening to them IRL or witnessing it IRL. Summarizing they have experience of the infamous NTR and they have the NTR tag in their life at some point and they can't take it.

Aand you kind of got the intent of mine wrong in any and all regards to femdom, but kewl. And then the rant against NTR "haters".
So ill just answer to the "toxic" anti NTRs... mate, have you seen the topics around. Its always reverse. Why dont ppl like ntr, why are ppl afraid of ntr, why oh why, and then some blame. You DO get responses, also bad ones. But those that dont like ntr rarely start it... because its not really in their interests. They just respond to others. Just like I did here, telling why I dont like it, because someone asked. And I at no point say NTR is bad, im saying NTR portrayal here is bad, in how its done, not the NTR. It doesnt have to be "healthy", just much better done. But with lack of effort usually comes the extremes, because you have to mask it. THAT bores me.
The pro-NTR crowd are kind of like the anti-incesters. Topics every other day about lack of games, lack of support?, and general moaning about those that dont have the same view point. And if you start arguing their view point from your perspective, it quickly devolves into all out negativity.

 

[morphnet]

Pretty much all of that applies to vanilla/harems as well.
-The MC may not be spineless but he's usually bland so that people can self insert. He has no discernible personality traits outside of being nice or a dick. There is rarely anything in-between.
-The guys in vanilla are usually little boys or normal skinny guys.
-The women in harems are some of the dumbest most bland characters in fiction. They all follow the same personality tropes as the girls in the next game over. Their lives revolve around the protagonist and they have very little interests outside of fucking him. Any traits they could have are discarded once they get involved with him because they have to be docile and non threatening towards him or else the audience will get upset. They rarely have male friends or past lovers because that's threatening to the audience.

What you're describing isn't an NTR problem. It's a hentai problem because people copy each other for success. The whole rape thing you're describing is in tons of other genres. There are games/doujin where the guy rapes the girl into being with him all the time. It isn't strictly in NTR. I mean fuck, look at DMD probably the most popular game on the site. The only interesting character in it is the mother because she's actually getting a character arc while all the other girls are just "me want dick from bland dad fucking his daughter and me no care who else want it!"

You clearly have not play any hentai harem games then, each girl / woman has her own likes and dislikes, her own quirks, own lives. No their lives don't "revolve" around the MC that's is why the MC always has to ingame travel to where they are, their lives "revolving" around what they character was written to do i.e. studying in the library >.< and fucking is generally the last thing you get to do once you have cleared their route and added them to the harem, before that some heavy petting maybe but alot of romancing / helping / dominating (depending on story / kinks) what you are describing is the last 10 minutes of game play for each girl / woman not the 1 hour getting there :\

Hentai harem games normally have some combination of personality types in them and there are quiet / big sister type yup but there are also tomboy-ish , emotionless , high-class , creepy etc. and while they do "at the end" warm up to the MC most of their arc is dealing with those traits. Once again what you are describing is the end game NOT the game itself. So no it's not a Hentai problem.

It's called story telling and if you where telling a story about lawyers most of the story would take place in a law firm or court. If you are telling a story about how a guy got a harem most of the story would be about the guy being around the girls / women who end up in the harem. As part of the story telling is also serves no purpose to mention past loves or when they lost their first tooth or what their first pair of shoes were, unless to to paint a picture or "part of getting to know them" quest line.

 

[CIover]

Aand you kind of got the intent of mine wrong in any and all regards to femdom, but kewl. And then the rant against NTR "haters".
So ill just answer to the "toxic" anti NTRs... mate, have you seen the topics around. Its always reverse. Why dont ppl like ntr, why are ppl afraid of ntr, why oh why, and then some blame. You DO get responses, also bad ones. But those that dont like ntr rarely start it... because its not really in their interests. They just respond to others. Just like I did here, telling why I dont like it, because someone asked. And I at no point say NTR is bad, im saying NTR portrayal here is bad, in how its done, not the NTR. It doesnt have to be "healthy", just much better done. But with lack of effort usually comes the extremes, because you have to mask it. THAT bores me.
The pro-NTR crowd are kind of like the anti-incesters. Topics every other day about lack of games, lack of support?, and general moaning about those that dont have the same view point. And if you start arguing their view point from your perspective, it quickly devolves into all out negativity.

I actually like arguing with them actually coz i think it's funny when people do kink shaming coz like duh we're in this site together and we're pretty much all degenerates so trolling them seems to be in order. I play everything and some are really passionate about it like REALLY passionate, you can feel the fire in their belly and i actually think some of them are just trolling or perhaps some are really super serious about it. You see em say the amount of NTR content nowadays are too much and it's making the hentai gaming scene sour which is actually true "I mean the amount of NTR games" since there are lots of NTR games and they have a really big following so there's demand for it so lots are supplying. So instead of thinking that the kink is strong with NTR or Alabama found this site why not look at it on a different way and figure how people end up playing H Games to begin with. I can't figure out why lots like NTR games since it could be anything from Quality of the Game to the kink itself and playing a Quality Game can actually make you like NTR or could be anything, NTR community is big and i dunno why. Any ideas?

 

[khumak]

Fear has nothing to do with it. People are inherently selfish when it comes to cheating. There are exceptions but for most people it's ok if I cheat but it's not ok if you cheat. That's pretty much the rule (assuming there's a guarantee of not getting caught or getting in trouble for it). Most people have fantasies about it. Most people are afraid of getting caught so they either don't do it or try to hide it so they don't get caught. If they catch their partner doing it, it's over.

So for a game, the same idea applies. I'm invested in the main character so it's ok if I cheat but it's not ok if I get cheated on. It's really that simple.

 

[Deleted member 1463973]

I hate it. I already feel bad when I watch porn and see my favorite porn actress fucked by others. At least they shouldn't show males faces as after watching porn I feel depressed for 3 days at least because of that. I just want to cry when I think others touching my favorite girl. In fact, games shouldn't have any other male than me when playing. Its just bad game design adding males and it shows devs don't know how to make a good game.

 

[CIover]

Fear has nothing to do with it. People are inherently selfish when it comes to cheating. There are exceptions but for most people it's ok if I cheat but it's not ok if you cheat. That's pretty much the rule (assuming there's a guarantee of not getting caught or getting in trouble for it). Most people have fantasies about it. Most people are afraid of getting caught so they either don't do it or try to hide it so they don't get caught. If they catch their partner doing it, it's over.

So for a game, the same idea applies. I'm invested in the main character so it's ok if I cheat but it's not ok if I get cheated on. It's really that simple.

So in theory, a level 3 simp would exhibit such behavior.