Why is everyone here obsessed with NTR?

[tanstaafl]

I want to think that I am more than an ordinary person

If this is in response to my normal humans and empathy statement, I think you're backwards if you are implying you wouldn't. That would technically make you less than an ordinary human.

 

[Jaike]

You "think" you got into an argument with a mod and they hate-tagged your game AI.

"there's almost no accountability when it happens"

First - your game's artwork looks AI. even if you say it's not. It looks it. Maybe if it didn't look it, there wouldn't have been an issue. You requested it changed and it got removed. Amazing that.

No, they can't tag/untag your game as they like. If you find that happening, then file a support ticket.

Second - yes, there is accountability.
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As for asking people to support you - I'm sure you did so in a way which broke a rule. If not, you should have filed a support ticket.

If there are posts which break rules regarding netorare in your game thread, report the posts. If it isn't resolved they way you think it should be, file a support ticket.

Says there is no accountability, but when they find their game with a tag they say is incorrect and submit a request to get the tag removed, it gets removed. Doesn't realize the irony.

I mean, skyblueaster, it's unlikely there's really hate-tagging going on because it's likely because some user reported it for AI art. But it's kind of a bad process that it was added, even if you can see why that'd happen. Especially because it isn't unreasonable to expect that some users ignored the topic for the mistaken AI art tag. Though these numbers may be pretty low. Tbh there's a bit of a trade off too, there are advantages to quickly accepting tag reports too.

But you know the kind of accountability they meant, and while I think that's a bad idea it isn't hard to see where they comes from.

 

[Count Morado]

But you know the kind of accountability they meant, and while I think that's a bad idea it isn't hard to see where they comes from.

I can see where they are coming from, I disagree with what they want.

Because, what they want is for their conspiracy theory to be true and for the evil, bad, meanie moderator who did such a terrible thing to them as tagging their game with AI CG to be named and they want to personally know that the moderator's knuckles have been properly wrapped with the ruler. Can you imagine how much hurt thatoderator caused them?!?!?!?? I mean, look how my observation that their game's art looks AI to me caused them such pain. Now imagine how the tag must have been a near mortal blow. They are lucky to have survived the onslaught

 

[Jaike]

I disagree with what they want.

I agree with that.

Because, what they want is for their conspiracy theory to be true and for the evil, bad, meanie moderator who did such a terrible thing to them as tagging their game with AI CG to be named and they want to personally know that the moderator's knuckles have been properly wrapped with the ruler.

Yes, sounds like that's the "accountability" that's sought, unwisely.

Can you imagine how much hurt thatoderator caused them?!?!?!?? I mean, look how my observation that their game's art looks AI to me caused them such pain. Now imagine how the tag must have been a near mortal blow. They are lucky to have survived the onslaught

I think this sarcasm is too harsh though. If someone actually paid an artist to draw the artwork, it's natural that comparisons to AI art aren't gonna be liked. And incorrect tags still mislead.

 

[Count Morado]

I think this sarcasm is too harsh though. If someone actually paid an artist to draw the artwork, it's natural that comparisons to AI art aren't gonna be liked. And incorrect tags still mislead.

There's a difference between "aren't going to be liked" and taking it personally to the point that the developer whines not to "disparage my game and my artist like that? It may look AI to you, but if you have nothing nice to say, then please stop with the snide comments, because it’s very hurtful especially to my artist."

The first is understandable, the second is immature. We are not in primary school. If you are going to put content out, you should be ready for both compliments and criticism. Hell, my simply saying the art looks like AI is about the softest-worded criticism one could get on this site. I didn't say I don't like AI (as we know, I'm in the middle ground on AI usage) and therefore their game's art is shit because it looks like AI.

It is an observation, one many have made about their game's art, obviously. I didn't even go look at the art until after someone brought it up that the game had an AI CG tag and that the art looked AI. If they have a problem with the comparison, then either they need to consider some artistic revisions or accept that there are a number of people who will make the comparison and move on.

I went that far with the sarcasm because they went that far in their accusations about the moderation and their response to me.

I get what you are saying... But I disagree that it was uncalled for.

 

[murgichor]

but being put in the role of the cuck is too fucking much, why tf is this fetish so popular anyway? Is this generation just a bunch of losers who think they can't fuck properly?

Who are you talking to right now? Who is it you think you see? No, you clearly don't know who you are talking to, so let me clue you in.
I am NOT the cuck, anon. I am the ugly bastard.
A guy opens the door and sees his wife with another man and you think that of me?
No. I am the one who CUCKS.

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

But to be honest - i think the key thing is attractive models.
I think tags like NTR (and incest) are not as hyped as they seem - i am certain a majority of players are looking for attractive models and not specific kinks. Then it is up to the viewer/player which character they identify with.
Some who are genuinely into NTR might be loud about it though.

As one example; I love MilaAI since Mila herself is the way i like women - a gorgeous and obedient subslut. When i play i identify mostly with Bob or Mark.

 

[eaudecologne]

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But to be honest - i think the key thing is attractive models.
I think tags like NTR (and incest) are not as hyped as they seem - i am certain a majority of players are looking for attractive models and not specific kinks. Then it is up to the viewer/player which character they identify with.
Some who are genuinely into NTR might be loud about it though.

As one example; I love MilaAI since Mila herself is the way i like women - a gorgeous and obedient subslut. When i play i identify mostly with Bob or Mark.

I think the key actually is ntr and incest. If people wanted pretty models they'd look at drawings. How bout that?

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

I think the key actually is ntr and incest. If people wanted pretty models they'd look at drawings. How bout that?

Nah.. Just drawings are not enough.
I think people are attracted to certain games if it seems to have pretty models and some action. I think there is just at few LOUD people who are obsessed with the NTR and incest kinks. My rough estimate would be that the models matter to somewhere between 65% - 85% for most players. Even games with just softcore tags but with beautiful models are suprisingly popular.

Many players don't mind the NTR- or Incest-tags but don't look particularly for those tags.

I am certain the NTR-tag is hyped way above the actual interest in NTR.

 

[eaudecologne]

Nah.. Just drawings are not enough.
I think people are attracted to certain games if it seems to have pretty models and some action. I think there is just at few LOUD people who are obsessed with the NTR and incest kinks. My rough estimate would be that the models matter to somewhere between 65% - 85% for most players. Even games with just softcore tags but with beautiful models are suprisingly popular.

Many players don't mind the NTR- or Incest-tags but don't look particularly for those tags.

I am certain the NTR-tag is hyped way above the actual interest in NTR.

It's an interesting theory but I'm not sure I understand completely so let's look at something specific. You know those ntr phone games that are being spammed right now? So you think people don't play them for the ntr. If it were called "pretty girl phone" or whatever it would be just as good or even better? So like tags don't matter, then does stuff like anal sex or footjobs matter? Or does it apply only to ntr. So like what's your calculated perfect game for maximum popularity?

 

[Letstryitout]

I am certain the NTR-tag is hyped way above the actual interest in NTR.

The overall discussion is way above the actual interest; I'm not sure about the hype. It's a provocative genre. While I understand people having problems with it, I don't understand the obsession over it from haters. So I believe there is a lot of unintended marketing coming from the haters. Also, people get angry about it, but I believe there are lots of Spider fuckers out there.

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

You know those ntr phone games that are being spammed right now?

Sure.

So you think people don't play them for the ntr.

Some do, but i think many try them since they just like the visuals (models etc).

If it were called "pretty girl phone" or whatever it would be just as good or even better?

I think they would do better. This pretty much sums my point.
I think one polarity love NTR, another polarity hate it; but for the majority it's a grayscale where models, visuals etc matter more than tags.

So like tags don't matter, then does stuff like anal sex or footjobs matter?

I did not say tags doesn't matter - i say some tags matter much more than others. Some tags are hyped way above the actual interest.

I have a certain favorite tag and it is common those games have other tags, if NTR is one of them i contribute to a hype for NTR games. If it is obvious that a game have a NTR-theme only i tend to avoid it - unless the models and visuals are very appealing to me then i might consider to try it out anyway. I don't think i am all alone about reasoning this way - personally i think me and others with me are a majority.

So like what's your calculated perfect game for maximum popularity?

Well i think character creation and player options are a few of the key things for the future - that's a tricky challenge for pre-rendered VNs.
Appealing models (for the target group) are however way more important than the tags.

If i wanted to create a NTR game i would make an optional route where it is possible to order the subjects to do certain things - dominated sharing is almost a complete opposite to NTR but the same visuals can be used.

 

[eaudecologne]

I think they would do better. This pretty much sums my point.

Well that just doesn't make any sense. You understand people copy what is successful? If something else were to do better, they would copy that instead. You haven't presented any argument why they would do better except for you think so.

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

Well that just doesn't make any sense. You understand people copy what is successful? If something else were to do better, they would copy that instead.

I understand people copy what they BELIEVE is popular.
"Those ntr phone games that are being spammed right now" are a result of a hype. Some people try to make easy money by creating a game with a tag that seem to be popular - the phone games are a perfect example since they are very simple games.

You haven't presented any argument why they would do better except for you think so.

That is a correct observation. This is only what i think - but on the other hand you havn´t proved me wrong so far.

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

The overall discussion is way above the actual interest; I'm not sure about the hype. It's a provocative genre. While I understand people having problems with it, I don't understand the obsession over it from haters. So I believe there is a lot of unintended marketing coming from the haters. Also, people get angry about it, but I believe there are lots of Spider fuckers out there.

Solid point.

 

[asdfqwert_789]

Come on guys, I come looking for some new games every once in a while and can't help but notice how many NTR games are releasing, ffs!
I'm all for a female protagonist cheating on her husband if I'm in fucking control of her and deciding what to do, but being put in the role of the cuck is too fucking much, why tf is this fetish so popular anyway? Is this generation just a bunch of losers who think they can't fuck properly?

Set tag filter to exclude ntr tag. Unfortunately there's demand for this shit, hence, there's supply for it. I personally don't understand it either, I guess degeneracy is gradually kicking in into society

 

[eaudecologne]

I understand people copy what they BELIEVE is popular.
That is a correct observation. This is only what i think - but on the other hand you havn´t proved me wrong so far.

Well yeah you just said you think something. It's not an argument to disprove. I can't impact what you're thinking.
Also I don't think popularity is a question of beliefs? If you want you can crunch the numbers and see what's the most popular thing? I asked why you think the phone games would be better off without ntr - you didn't give any reason beyond you think so. What's there to prove?

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

Became curious regarding how successful NTR-games actually are.
When i check top selling games with the tag "erotic" on itch - the first game with an obvious NTR-theme it is Cuck Tales on place 57. So to be considered a successful genre?

 

[eaudecologne]

Became curious regarding how successful NTR-games actually are.
When i check top selling games with the tag "erotic" on itch - the first game with an obvious NTR-theme it is Cuck Tales on place 57. So to be considered a successful genre?

Crunch the numbers on all major sites otherwise you're just cherry picking. Or just admit you're trolling man

 

[Tenebris Progressus]

I asked why you think the phone games would be better off without ntr - you didn't give any reason beyond you think so.

Sorry about that. I think it would do better since more of the mainstream majority avoid NTR rather than actively seek it.