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fakeymcfake45

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RAM literally doesnt affect anything but loading times/asset loading and CPUs usually dont have the majority of workload, but the GPU does and is also highly affected by drivers state. diagnosing the source of perfomance issues when u know nothing besides a small part of his PCs specs is rather pointless since ur shooting in the dark that way.
There doesn't seem to be a driver problem, the game is just very unoptimized, which is normal for an alpha build but usually not to this extent. Volumetric lighting shouldn't halve performance even in UE5. The problem is some people have a weird idea of what smooth means and consider anything over 30fps "smooth" regardless of frame time delivery.

Specially weird considering how low the draw distance is,. Compare performance with the UE5 build of carnal instinct for example, which looks insanely better and also runs great.
 

jav253

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Right, the CPU is causing the GPU bottleneck.
If the game isn't well optimized that's probably the case. Nothing going on this game that should bottleneck any recent CPU but at this stage of development it's actually normal for a game to be unoptimized truthfully. That's usually something you focus on towards the end but it's kind of weird with the modern trend of early access or crowd funded beta's. Eventually he will just need to move more stuff onto the GPU.
 

fakeymcfake45

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May 7, 2021
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If the game isn't well optimized that's probably the case. Nothing going on this game that should bottleneck any recent CPU but at this stage of development it's actually normal for a game to be unoptimized truthfully. That's usually something you focus on towards the end but it's kind of weird with the modern trend of early access or crowd funded beta's. Eventually he will just need to move more stuff onto the GPU.
If that were the case then gpu usage would be lower, not 100% trying to render the game. Most likely it's just wrong settings, which is very common for UE games. Inexperienced devs see the "ultra" variables, use them because they want to make the game look better, and don't notice they're meant for archviz, not games.
 

eatwhatever

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Nov 9, 2017
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ah, yes, "if the players dont like it they can simply stop playing and not say anything at all". how i love this argument. you see, this argument is literally pointless, it's worthless pandering to people with sensitive feelings. you literally answered your own question in the first two sentences; why does the dev get hate? well, isn't it obvious? you listed a lot of the minor issues people are having with the game, let alone the major ones that have been mentioned on here.

tell me; how is a video game dev supposed to know what players are finding wrong with their game? how will they improve if they dont have anyone to tell them what's wrong in the first place? sure, they're a dev, but they can't do everything, and sometimes only some players will encounter a bug while others won't. it goes like that, really. players want their voices to be heard, and want devs of games they see with potential to improve. sure, they could be nicer about it - but the tone-deaf "i dont know why players are saying the game sucks" after pointing out many reasons why the game sucks is just *chef's kiss*.

look; you don't want a dev getting hate. that's ok. but when the game is slated for a full, fully-priced release that people will have to pay money for - on other platforms at least - and there are game-breaking issues that dont seem to be getting solved? then yeah, players are gonna be pissed and angry because it doesn't feel like they're being listened to and, therefore, like the dev doesn't really care.

also, people are scared of another Breeders of The Nephylem dilemma - the dev casually ignored players and their desires, actively does whatever they want, burn themselves out with 'no ideas', and then complain when they get backlash after not updating the game for literally over a year now. and they, too, were planning to seel it for a full release.

THAT'S why players are being harsh and complaining.
well, I understood your point. however, it's not like I don't want dev getting hate even for good reason.

If the product with malfunction has been sold to customers it is the customers' right to file complaints about false advertisement, malfunctions, bad A/S, etc... but then this 'product' is still in the testing stage and people have been warned that it's the experimental stage(AKA WIP, alpha or beta). It doesn't mean you can't complain at all, but you have to admit you tried the experimental product despite the downside or possible problems.

Also, people downloading the stuff and writing things here means they tried the product for free anyway...if the game somehow damaged their GPU/CPU for some hilarious reason, then the dev should take huge blame for such cases but I doubt if that is the case here.

If this was Steam and if we were writing reviews or feedback after paying for the product, yes I don't see the reason why dev not getting burned alive there. But here, IDK why I should blame the dev 'that harsh' when he's reading the threads.

Anyway, this was rather the correction of a few misunderstood points/intentions of my previous post. No offense intended to anyone. I just felt people should calm down a little bit and just laugh it off even when something stupid happens in the game cuz... it's still on WIP :) Or maybe people should check back this thread after a few years to see if it's a playable stage then.
 
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Murakumo18

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Apr 20, 2018
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Wait so im a bit confused on how to continue the first quest. It says to find Grilled feral meat, but i can't continue the conversation with the fisherman even if I have grilled feral meat in my inventory.

EDIT: Started on a new game, was able to continue without an issue.

I suspect that dying probably caused the issue. (Dying actually might be the cause of a lot of issues I've run into now that I think about it)

Also while I wait for a response, what would be a good place to build a base?
 
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Spillthebeans

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Wait so im a bit confused on how to continue the first quest. It says to find Grilled feral meat, but i can't continue the conversation with the fisherman even if I have grilled feral meat in my inventory.

EDIT: Started on a new game, was able to continue without an issue.

I suspect that dying probably caused the issue. (Dying actually might be the cause of a lot of issues I've run into now that I think about it)

Also while I wait for a response, what would be a good place to build a base?
I'm not seeing anything in the latest notes about the build system being fixed but I haven't played this version yet. I couldn't get doors to stay in place nor could I get the "sleep buff" to activate within any player built structure so building didn't really seem all that relevant. If teleporting worked consistently I'd say set up near a teleporation point but again I'm not seeing anything about that either, so anywhere that looks pretty, is flat, and has no nearby spawns is as good as any.
 

Murakumo18

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Apr 20, 2018
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I'm not seeing anything in the latest notes about the build system being fixed but I haven't played this version yet. I couldn't get doors to stay in place nor could I get the "sleep buff" to activate within any player built structure so building didn't really seem all that relevant. If teleporting worked consistently I'd say set up near a teleporation point but again I'm not seeing anything about that either, so anywhere that looks pretty, is flat, and has no nearby spawns is as good as any.
I managed to get a building to work to the point where it counts as a shelter.

You don't even need the door. Just set up the foundation walls, and ceiling and it counts.

On that note though, the game is now refusing to let me sleep, and constantly gives me "you can't sleep with enemies nearby"
 

jav253

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I downloaded the newest version to try it out. Honestly it looks buggier than the release I played a year ago. Basic things I expected by now like ability to craft a torch so you can see at night are still not in. The babies seem to disappear after birth now. Can't sleep at all just messages about enemies being nearby. I like the new loading screen art I guess. Still excited about eventually playing the full release of this one but it looks like it's going to take a while.
 
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son09918

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I downloaded the newest version to try it out. Honestly it looks buggier than the release I played a year ago. Basic things I expected by now like ability to craft a torch so you can see at night are still not in. The babies seem to disappear after birth now. Can't sleep at all just messages about enemies being nearby. I like the new loading screen art I guess. Still excited about eventually playing the full release of this one but it looks like it's going to take a while.
how to have follower
 

XyrexDread

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There doesn't seem to be a driver problem, the game is just very unoptimized, which is normal for an alpha build but usually not to this extent. Volumetric lighting shouldn't halve performance even in UE5. The problem is some people have a weird idea of what smooth means and consider anything over 30fps "smooth" regardless of frame time delivery.

Specially weird considering how low the draw distance is,. Compare performance with the UE5 build of carnal instinct for example, which looks insanely better and also runs great.
when a game isn't optimized it can be more stressful for the GPU/system than a benchmark. everything could be responsible. i've seen all kinds of shenanigans being responsible for insane performance issues/high temperatures, even UI implementation.
 

faerer

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Oct 17, 2017
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Anybody know how to type in the console commands so they work properly?
I've found the commands in the console, but can't get them to work, like: SpawnItem Wood 1, but it doesn't work.
 
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And the object placement elevation is set to random quantum number, that changes even after building. Non-Quantum computer optimisation needed.
Optimisation is super bad too. With 3060 and ryzen 5600 im getting 40fps with medium settings while also having DLSS on at balanced.
Like, this is impressive, this is easily the worst optimized game i have ever played prior to this point.
And ive played a ton of Alpha and Beta versions too, including closed ones.
 

Murakumo18

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Apr 20, 2018
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The amount of jank with the building system is both funny and annoying.
Expectations:
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reality:
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Those stairs in particular puzzle the heck out of me.

I was never able to get those to work. They always despawned into the void.

I was able to get the other version of stairs to work at least.

On another note, I got sleeping to work, and then it soft locked me. I forgot how I even did it, i just couldn't move at all.
 

BingoDingo123

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Is the first quest just broken for anyone else? Like I craft the pants and the bra which work fine, but the boots and gloves don't count when I craft them.

Edit: Turns out this whole build is just broken. Sleeping is broken as 90% of the time enemies are around when there blatantly isn't, pregnancy doesn't work as the character births literally nothing, the ground pound skill in the menu can't be upgraded past level 1, etc. Don't waste 11 gigs on this piece of shit.. Genuinely have no clue how long it'll be until this game is in an actually playable state. It feels like years at this point.
 
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