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scarfer

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The inmates over on Hypnopics are starting to riot and turn on each other in the new engine thread. It's both mildly entertaining and kinda sad to watch.
 

C.Volks

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i am gonna download it now, but far is the progress? atleast 4 hours with reading? and 40 minutes without?
 

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i am gonna download it now, but far is the progress? atleast 4 hours with reading? and 40 minutes without?
You can't really play it without reading but its very engaging. I skip the text on most renpy games but read most of this. You can't really see all content on one play through unless you cheat as the clients all have time limitations. I'd recommend using the modded version linked below as that lets you cheat so you can reset the date and nullify all the time limitations.


Its been ages since i played but I think its definitely a few hours worth. Its probably one of those games that you need to play for a bit to learn the mechanics and then restart.
 

C.Volks

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You can't really play it without reading but its very engaging. I skip the text on most renpy games but read most of this. You can't really see all content on one play through unless you cheat as the clients all have time limitations. I'd recommend using the modded version linked below as that lets you cheat so you can reset the date and nullify all the time limitations.


Its been ages since i played but I think its definitely a few hours worth. Its probably one of those games that you need to play for a bit to learn the mechanics and then restart.
oh wow! thanks for the modded version! it will help. and yes, it definitely is. i played something like this, i think it is also rags who created it. i forgot the name of the game, but it start as the protagonist wrecked his car, and he needs to go fix, while he was waiting he was looking for a place to stay and that is the hotel, then he was given a bracelet i think but anyway. i was trying to say is, this i think that has same mechanics is the mechanics i did not understand. so using cheat might be useful for beginners.


and i have read the upper comment, what's the problem with the creators? is that the reason why its almost two years since the last update?
 
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what's the problem with the creators? is that the reason why its almost two years since the last update?
There's no problem with the creator he is just taking his time, its not patreon based, he does it for free, so can take as long as he wants and some people aren't happy with that.

There is new content in development but also a switch to a custom game engine built specifically for this game. Developing a new engine obviously takes time away from releasing new content, so thats partly to blame for the delay.

The people on the other forum are mostly arguing to each other about what they are and are not allowed to say to someone who is developing for free. They are mostly criticising each other rather than the actual delay. Unlike this forum, the hypnotics forum doesn't have a mute button. I've had to mute someone on this thread for similar pointless arguing.
 
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scarfer

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Given the subtext of the game is manipulation, part of me likes to think WT isn't actually doing any work or is deliberately delaying its release because he's getting off on seeing everyone lose their minds over his game.
This thought crossed my mind many times in the 14 months since the last update. Also the possibility that (s)he was WAY more pissed off than (s)he let on because people were hacking the game, that everything since has been a form of revenge.
 

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On 3 January, the team is back to work after the holidays. I don't know much more than that. However, what I do know is they are back to work. I expect an update by the weekend of 14 February. We do need to be patient.
 

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This thought crossed my mind many times in the 14 months since the last update. Also the possibility that (s)he was WAY more pissed off than (s)he let on because people were hacking the game, that everything since has been a form of revenge.
On 3 January, the team is back to work after the holidays. I don't know much more than that. However, what I do know is they are back to work. I expect an update by the weekend of 14 February. We do need to be patient.
Speaking as someone who has played and very slightly worked on the new version: it exists, and it will come out someday.

The reason that the new version hasn't been released is that porting the RAGS content to the new RenPy version is a time-consuming, manual process that has been farmed out to volunteers.

Imagine whatever job you do, like working at the paper factory or whatever. Now imagine nobody's getting paid to do it, everyone met on an internet porn forum, and any individual might decide to just vanish into the ether. It's gonna take a long time to get all that paper pushed.

I personally think it would be prudent for them to release a beta as-is: putting out incomplete work is a great motivator to complete the work, albeit very stressful. I think developing it in the open would also allow more people to give feedback and probably recruit more good volunteers.

But WT is definitely a perfectionist and I can imagine them waiting until 100% of the original content is in before releasing.
 

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Selectivepaperclip, thank you for your words. I have been patient for WT for a very long time. I will remain so. I am just filling in the time with other games. I know WT wants his game to be perfect, and it does show in the Rags version. I am sure that it's not just porting over that is taking the time. It is the customizing of Ren'py as well. I know WT will put it out when it is complete. And like you, I would like a beta, or perhaps the first "chapter" of the game, so we can see the progress. But I am more than willing to wait a while longer. And I do expect an announcement on progress soon enough. Davrox, we may disagree on a new Rags version, but we are in agreement with the new engine.
 

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I'd recommend using the modded version linked below as that lets you cheat so you can reset the date and nullify all the time limitations.
The modded version is so much better imo. Which is what I really think snarked him off so much. It wasn't just that people were modding, it's that the mod seemed to be as well liked as the original WT put out, if not more so.

I mean, I'm not in his head or anything. Just musing.
 

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WT posted a new update on Thursday, but still no ETA....

STATUS UPDATE

Core Engine:
Complete. Digital Bonsai has been adding things to it as asked for, but everything functions smoothly in it's current form.


UI and Graphics:
UI is complete. Only optimized for monitors (landscape) right now. Somebody may get really ambitious and optimize an alternative layout for mobile devices (portrait) someday.
Icons and "look and feel" is ready for the initial release. I'll likely work on the icons some more at some point, but what we have now works.
Photos: about one-third of the images have been upsized, reworked, colour balanced, light balanced, recropped, etc. This work will continue after the initial release. Basically, when I open up and work on a client file, I'll work on upgrading her artwork at the same time.


Content
Relative to the content in the latest version of Rags:
Locations: complete
Minor Characters: 20 of 21 believed to be complete (I haven't fully audited; will be doing so as part of a "consistency pass"). The 21st is about half finished.
Major Clients: 6 of 9 complete. Of the remaining three, one is almost complete, one is about 50% complete, and the third has been a problem child.
If the final client isn't ready by the time the other two are finished up and the "consistency pass" is complete, I'll release without her and add her in on a subsequent update.

A big shout out to a4hryou in particular on the content. Thanks to all of the volunteers who have contributed their time to the exceedingly mundane task of porting over Rags content, but a4hryou has definitely done the lion's share of this work.


Now, I know what everybody really wants to know is what does this mean for timing? I'm wary about even giving a range at this stage as there's still a risk that something comes up I haven't accounted for. All I can say is I am really, really looking forward to getting a public release out so that our volunteers can see their work in action!
 
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I really wish something would get released, if anything just to show it is being worked on. I'm not too hopeful on a release anytime soon. I don't know what his definition of "almost complete" is, but it doesn't sound like there is much left to do, excluding the problem client.
 

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How exactly do you have Jasmine dance at her hosue rather then your, and then make her your girlfriend, I've done it before but I haven't been able to do it again. Do you need to be a specific type, is tehre something I'm missing? I can make her act like a wore and didn't pay her.
 
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