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You two seem to pretty much play the bystander route, going by your posts. Nothing wrong with that, but it is also clear you overlook, probably willing, something about the story. It is mentioned several times during the game that the MC and Mei were already good friends during high school. They never dated due to a couple reasons, among them shyness, but they were close friends and there was attraction on both sides. That is a major reason Mei goes to the MC, now that she needs a greencard, because of their friendship.
It might start out as a favour for Mei, but it does not have to stay so! Depending on what you do, this can become a marriage of love quite easily.
Why love her and really marry her if she is destined for the fate of a whore...? Here, if you play without NTR, then there will be no content, or rather, you will miss a lot. Personally, I definitely wouldn’t marry such a woman, even though this is a game, I take this genre very close to my heart. Would you put your beloved woman under strangers and her bosses...? You can kill me, but I can’t understand this in real life, I’m far from a puritan, I tried everything except sharing my wife, although I’ve never been married because I’m a sailor. And this is not due to lack of self-confidence, as they usually teach in games, if you haven’t shared your woman, then you are weak in spirit. But you can observe from the outside, it’s just that the developers often put you in the place of the main character. Granted, if you play as a woman, then it’s not so offensive, but otherwise, if you play as a man, which you are, without being a cuckold, you end up with a breakdown in your psyche. Sorry for my bad English :cool: But the game is still 10 out of 10, it’s a pity there is no animation in it.
 
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Lee's route on the other hand was quite surprising too, gotta say it didn't call to me that much until a few days when I grew curious about what the other influencer was all about, the "submissive" route is more conspirational than expected with secret societies and máster-slave rites also didn't expect for the game to actually make use of the MC's boss certainly a cast that can rival with the corruption route, not much of a fan of the Asian wife with glasses but that is just me, Mr Davies is even more of a dick than Jamal and that has merit, much potential here too and I would love to see the Asian wife being an obedient girl for much more. The MC's boss is really hot and without a doubt my favourite route character.
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Oh my! I had actually never tried that route. Hmm.. maybe I'll switch to that one and see how it goes
 

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Why love her and really marry her if she is destined for the fate of a whore...? Here, if you play without NTR, then there will be no content, or rather, you will miss a lot. Personally, I definitely wouldn’t marry such a woman, even though this is a game, I take this genre very close to my heart. Would you put your beloved woman under strangers and her bosses...? You can kill me, but I can’t understand this in real life, I’m far from a puritan, I tried everything except sharing my wife, although I’ve never been married because I’m a sailor. And this is not due to lack of self-confidence, as they usually teach in games, if you haven’t shared your woman, then you are weak in spirit. But you can observe from the outside, it’s just that the developers often put you in the place of the main character. Granted, if you play as a woman, then it’s not so offensive, but otherwise, if you play as a man, which you are, without being a cuckold, you end up with a breakdown in your psyche. Sorry for my bad English :cool: But the game is still 10 out of 10, it’s a pity there is no animation in it.
This is a bit of a tangent away from game life, but real-life sharing of your partner (including slutification) usually doesn't play out like in porn. I mean honestly, even the most vanilla sex doesn't play out like in porn. Real life almost all my relationships have been some flavor open relationships (including my wife / partner of 12 years now) - usually poly or hotwife style swingers, almost all involving BDSM with them as my subs / slaves. I've been with couples where the guy considers himself more a cuck. So real life you usually don't put your beloved under the care of people who will break up your relationship. But you encourage sluttification because:
* it keeps the relationship spicy, and there's nothing that kills a long-term relationship's sex life like routine

* NRE (new relationship energy) is more potent then most drugs that is very sexy to watch

* people who are out there looking for sex tend to spend more time on their overall appearance, clothing, and fitness (all of which you get to enjoy) then those who have partners they take for granted,

* compersion - this one is a really weird term that tends to create a defining line between poly and mono people, and I think its genetic, so its really hard to explain... ok, if you have kids imagine your kid out on the field, scoring the game-winning goal. Imagine that feeling of joy and pride and all those other brain chemicals firing off along your mirror neurons, on behalf of your kid. It all goes off even though it isn't 'you' who did those things or who gets celebrated or so on. That's basically compersion, but for your partner and sex. When your partner is being thoroughly pleasured and is getting cock-drunk from a bunch of lovers (more then any single human could ever give them) and knowing you're part of why they felt safe letting go into that, and seeing how happy they are... its a really incredible feeling once you get past the jealousy bits

* opportunity - there are some events that you really only get into (or even hear about) when you're in these lifestyles. The eyes-wide-shut style orgy parties, certain clubs (and their VIP rooms), house-parties, etc. Where you get to be surrounded by beautiful women (or men, whatever rocks your boat), getting to play with them, having the kind of fun you only read about in penthouse letters. But the 'entry fee' is that you have to share a partner (that's the same incentive every other person there has to share their partner, otherwise it would just be a bunch of dudes wondering why there are no women there, because all their partners are stuck at home because no one wants to share their toys - yes, as a kinkster all my subs consent to being call my 'toys') and not being jealous (drama is a mood-killer and a one-way-out ticket of these communities)

* time and energy - honestly, I get busy. Really busy with work. As a sailor you can probably get that. And the idea of my partners cheating on me is actually horrible (I like it in games, like a lot of dark-stuff, not RL). But my partners know that (1) they can always talk to me about their needs and I'll be supportive, (2) they can have fun without having to go through the trouble of developing other deep relationships - and that is a lot more work then screwing around, and (3) anything they do with other partners they can show me so that when I have time again I'll know everything I knew from years of being with them + everything these new partners did. I feel more secure and constantly confident in my partners then just about any monogamous couple I know in my life, I always know where and with whom my partners are, what's in their heads, etc. And if they get off on another dick here and there, or flirt, or comment on someone's butt? Who cares, I do the same, I'm not about to leave my long-term partners that I've built a life with because some skirt bounced on me and thinks I should now become monogamous for her. My partners wouldn't either, and we all have time to focus on our lives.

* power play - its kind of funny when a guy tries to disrespect me because he's seen too much porn or 'alpha male energy' videos, and as I leave the two 'cock-drunk all-over-him' girls flip a switch, grab their clothes and trail after me leaving him blue-balled. Which has happened a few times 'cause some guys just don't get the scene. Or the flip side when some guy you like is staring at one of your partners and you can just look to your partner and send her to play with him, knowing she's doing it entirely for your amusement. This goes more into kink 'Dom' headspace which is even more out there >< .

Long answer to what you were saying, usually don't do that, but it sounded like you were genuinly asking and trying to understand the mindset of some of the folks doing stuff like this. (And there's other reasons for me, and other flavors of all this and reasons for others, etc. To each their own. 'Opening up' is a great book for anyone wanting to learn more about some of these mindsets).
 

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This is a bit of a tangent away from game life, but real-life sharing of your partner (including slutification) usually doesn't play out like in porn. I mean honestly, even the most vanilla sex doesn't play out like in porn. Real life almost all my relationships have been some flavor open relationships (including my wife / partner of 12 years now) - usually poly or hotwife style swingers, almost all involving BDSM with them as my subs / slaves. I've been with couples where the guy considers himself more a cuck. So real life you usually don't put your beloved under the care of people who will break up your relationship. But you encourage sluttification because:
* it keeps the relationship spicy, and there's nothing that kills a long-term relationship's sex life like routine

* NRE (new relationship energy) is more potent then most drugs that is very sexy to watch

* people who are out there looking for sex tend to spend more time on their overall appearance, clothing, and fitness (all of which you get to enjoy) then those who have partners they take for granted,

* compersion - this one is a really weird term that tends to create a defining line between poly and mono people, and I think its genetic, so its really hard to explain... ok, if you have kids imagine your kid out on the field, scoring the game-winning goal. Imagine that feeling of joy and pride and all those other brain chemicals firing off along your mirror neurons, on behalf of your kid. It all goes off even though it isn't 'you' who did those things or who gets celebrated or so on. That's basically compersion, but for your partner and sex. When your partner is being thoroughly pleasured and is getting cock-drunk from a bunch of lovers (more then any single human could ever give them) and knowing you're part of why they felt safe letting go into that, and seeing how happy they are... its a really incredible feeling once you get past the jealousy bits

* opportunity - there are some events that you really only get into (or even hear about) when you're in these lifestyles. The eyes-wide-shut style orgy parties, certain clubs (and their VIP rooms), house-parties, etc. Where you get to be surrounded by beautiful women (or men, whatever rocks your boat), getting to play with them, having the kind of fun you only read about in penthouse letters. But the 'entry fee' is that you have to share a partner (that's the same incentive every other person there has to share their partner, otherwise it would just be a bunch of dudes wondering why there are no women there, because all their partners are stuck at home because no one wants to share their toys - yes, as a kinkster all my subs consent to being call my 'toys') and not being jealous (drama is a mood-killer and a one-way-out ticket of these communities)

* time and energy - honestly, I get busy. Really busy with work. As a sailor you can probably get that. And the idea of my partners cheating on me is actually horrible (I like it in games, like a lot of dark-stuff, not RL). But my partners know that (1) they can always talk to me about their needs and I'll be supportive, (2) they can have fun without having to go through the trouble of developing other deep relationships - and that is a lot more work then screwing around, and (3) anything they do with other partners they can show me so that when I have time again I'll know everything I knew from years of being with them + everything these new partners did. I feel more secure and constantly confident in my partners then just about any monogamous couple I know in my life, I always know where and with whom my partners are, what's in their heads, etc. And if they get off on another dick here and there, or flirt, or comment on someone's butt? Who cares, I do the same, I'm not about to leave my long-term partners that I've built a life with because some skirt bounced on me and thinks I should now become monogamous for her. My partners wouldn't either, and we all have time to focus on our lives.

* power play - its kind of funny when a guy tries to disrespect me because he's seen too much porn or 'alpha male energy' videos, and as I leave the two 'cock-drunk all-over-him' girls flip a switch, grab their clothes and trail after me leaving him blue-balled. Which has happened a few times 'cause some guys just don't get the scene. Or the flip side when some guy you like is staring at one of your partners and you can just look to your partner and send her to play with him, knowing she's doing it entirely for your amusement. This goes more into kink 'Dom' headspace which is even more out there >< .

Long answer to what you were saying, usually don't do that, but it sounded like you were genuinly asking and trying to understand the mindset of some of the folks doing stuff like this. (And there's other reasons for me, and other flavors of all this and reasons for others, etc. To each their own. 'Opening up' is a great book for anyone wanting to learn more about some of these mindsets).
Bro, thank you for your detailed answer and I respect your choice, it’s good that you have friends who you trust so much. Perhaps I have problems with trusting people, but also don’t forget about the country and culture in which you were raised. West and East, are completely different cultures, which is why we constantly fight for our values. As for the sailor, we have a proverb, a beautiful wife is someone else's wife, and what kind of sailors are we, if our wives are not whores...? That's why I don't marry, these proverbs are based on the bitter truth of other people, and I try to learn from other people's mistakes. I like being single, I can cheat as much as I want and get pleasure from it. So I found the answer, I judge the women by myself, hence the distrust ;) It's nice to chat with a good conversationalist (y)
 
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Why love her and really marry her if she is destined for the fate of a whore...? Here, if you play without NTR, then there will be no content, or rather, you will miss a lot
Mei is not destined to become a whore as you seem to think! There are the full romance paths and even on most sharing/swinging paths you have full freedom to decide how far you go. It is fully possible to have most events on sharing without Mei having sex with any other guy at all. Being open to sharing/swinging is an option to participate in, not a must.

Naturally since 3Diddly is a NTR developer WDR has a lot of NTR and cuck stuff in it, but that is not all.
 
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Is there any other game that has this much interracial content with top renders?
There are, but I don't feel quite right linking to other people's games in this game's thread.
You can do this search: https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=258,894/notags=324,2247/sort=rating
Or you can post / search that question here: https://f95zone.to/forums/recommendations-identification.104/
(eg this is on the top of that page - https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-netorare-cuckold-resources-discussion-development.2711/ - and most NTR games have interracial-kink content, whatever my thoughts on that might be)
 

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Hi again 3Diddlyf95zone !

Just a few thoughts about the info from the new 0.54 changelog. According to it, the Kati/Jamal side of the game now is set up towards the final events and closing up the storylines there. Looking forward what these events will be. Especially since it seems you can thread/branch in parts of the other main paths into the route you play.

Hopefully one such "branch ins" might be a non-NTR/sharing/swinging version of the talk between Mei and one of the other VIP girls in the hot tub event. This talk has potential since it seems to hint that Mei might start VIP rooming/hut tubbing. Could be a decision for wife and MC to do together then on the sharing/swinging and romance routes. Also the greeting of the other girl of the MC could set a different tone. On the hard NTR path naturally the VIP girl is more or less dismissive of the MC being there "Oh, that one". On the hypothetical sharing/swinging/romance variants her greeting could be more like "Oh hi, MC name! You, Mei (and Jamal on swinging) having some fun after work?", since on these routes the MC is often visiting the Club and well-liked there.

But beside this, the events of 0.52-0.54 have quite a number of variants how they can play out in tone and results, in special on the sharing/swinging routes. There are pure twosome romance to kinky swinging options available, beasd on your stats and traits.
Looking forward to what events are now coming!

Bye
 
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i was gonna ask this on steam but it seemed the dev or community not that active, so is there differences between the versions on steam or on patreon or here!??, hard NTR (like this dev called it in the walkthrough) which is hard to come by is my favorite genre in AVNs and most of the NTR AVNs here focus more on the sharing aspect of it instead of its true meaning which is fine because i like it too but i prefer true NTR
i'm asking those that have the steam version and tried it from here or patreon before so if nothing removed or changed compared to here i would rather start my first go at this downloading it from steam
 

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i was gonna ask this on steam but it seemed the dev or community not that active, so is there differences between the versions on steam or on patreon or here!??, hard NTR (like this dev called it in the walkthrough) which is hard to come by is my favorite genre in AVNs and most of the NTR AVNs here focus more on the sharing aspect of it instead of its true meaning which is fine because i like it too but i prefer true NTR
i'm asking those that have the steam version and tried it from here or patreon before so if nothing removed or changed compared to here i would rather start my first go at this downloading it from steam
There is no difference between the various versions of WDR. So no problem on this front. But you are joking when you say that most NTR AVN focus more on the sharing aspect, right? Because I prefer the sharing aspect and I can tell you that one of the greatest pet peeves of sharing fans like me is that FAR too many NTR games focus too much on the NTR aspect.
 

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There is no difference between the various versions of WDR. So no problem on this front. But you are joking when you say that most NTR AVN focus more on the sharing aspect, right? Because I prefer the sharing aspect and I can tell you that one of the greatest pet peeves of sharing fans like me is that FAR too many NTR games focus too much on the NTR aspect.
first thanks for answering about the versions,
2nd not including cuckolding which is part of it, cheating behind MC back and not hentai or anime AVNs, 3dcg AVNs that have that are a rare commodity compared to sharing from what i observed combing through the NTR section here
 
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It’s a good game, and the player can control the debauchery of his wife, plus, if necessary, he can choose the NTR to suit his taste, without humiliating the main character. Well done developer :cool:(y)
Ok, so I must have missed it, because I have the worst of NTR, a guy that can't even touch his "wife".
 
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What I'd ideally like is a path where the MC and Mei have an understanding that their relationship is just surface and not a typical, exclusive marrige, and he's cool with her sleeping around and even slutting out but is always a part of it, on a level playing field with Jamal and the others, and not sneaking around or being treated like shit. If that's in there to be found, I haven't come across it yet.
 

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What I'd ideally like is a path where the MC and Mei have an understanding that their relationship is just surface and not a typical, exclusive marrige, and he's cool with her sleeping around and even slutting out but is always a part of it, on a level playing field with Jamal and the others, and not sneaking around or being treated like shit. If that's in there to be found, I haven't come across it yet.
Essentially there is, but that seems to be the most common question in this game's thread, 'cause you have to get the early game 'juuuust right'. There are guides on here but I can tell you how I found it without the guides... save scummed. Its renpy so you can quickly fast-forward between choices, it tells you which choices require which attributes... so I saved where the choices are that give you attribute points, and then when I found an option that I wanted (and that was blocked off) I ran back, adjusted my choices, fast-forwarded, and then tried it. The 'defining moment' is basically in the park walk. You let them go ahead, watch them play, and then later you tell him you're cool with it. If you managed your numbers well you'll get him saying 'hey, you're cool' and from then forward you're basically bros and she gets opened up without you getting humiliated.
 
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Essentially there is, but that seems to be the most common question in this game's thread, 'cause you have to get the early game 'juuuust right'. There are guides on here but I can tell you how I found it without the guides... save scummed. Its renpy so you can quickly fast-forward between choices, it tells you which choices require which attributes... so I saved where the choices are that give you attribute points, and then when I found an option that I wanted (and that was blocked off) I ran back, adjusted my choices, fast-forwarded, and then tried it. The 'defining moment' is basically in the park walk. You let them go ahead, watch them play, and then later you tell him you're cool with it. If you managed your numbers well you'll get him saying 'hey, you're cool' and from then forward you're basically bros and she gets opened up without you getting humiliated.
Im not so sure about that... as someone who regularly plays every single major route every public update, it seems much more linear than that.

I nearly always take the "it's cool" park walk fork, along with various permutations between sharing/non-sharing and antagonist/non-antagonistic and snoop/no-snoop (the two companies).

If you give me any combination of those above 3 switches, I can tell you what the outcome is. On the sharing/non-antagonistic it's the closest to what Logan spoke of, but it also goes over the top on their relationship.

I don't really think that'll ever exist in a pure form, I'd love it too, but that goes against what every ntr fan (and sadly most nts fans) want in a game - that is, the female LI having sex "like a guy", with almost no emotional investment but lots of hot sex.
 
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