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I believe not. She approaches the MC and says that she's ready.
I think itis possible in the so-called "Bystander/friend" route, where you fail to get into a relationship and stay a close friend only. But I never played that route, so I do not know the exact pathway.
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Since the changelog in the OP only goes up to v0.82, here's the official changelog since then (up to v0.88):
Changelog 0.88
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
Changelog 0.87
Continued Katie/Jamal's route
Changelog 0.86
Continued Katie/Jamal’s Route
This is a continuation of the non pregnancy ending on Katie's route, after the PC accepts for Wifey to continue working at the club in the VIP section
Spend more time with Wifey, and she will invite the PC to the club again. For Soft NTR, the PC can have a scene if the PC likes Wifey’s tattoo. If the PC chooses to not like the tattoo, Wifey can decide to break up with him if the Love Points are too low. The hard NTR route has the same scene (different dialogue depending on various player choices), but the PC can only watch.
Changelog 0.85:
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
Changelog 0.84
Continued Katie/Jamal route: Soft/hard NTR only
Changelog 0.83
Continue Katie/Jamal route:
This update has a smaller amount of new content but has a large amount of changes to the dialogue of the Soft NTR path within this route, with the help of DD.
DD has been helping me with the Soft NTR path in this route and is very passionate about his work. Thanks DD!
There are so many changes that it would take a long time to list them all, so I suggest replaying this route completely if you like Soft NTR.
Some important changes for Soft NTR on Katie/Jamal route:
- Starting a new game will no longer prompt the user for "sharing". This will appear later in the game organically as a choice with NTR enabled.
- Added "Stag" dialogue in this route
- Wifey and Jamal's dialogue can further be influenced by their sexual chemistry
Added a new event post ending for the non pregnancy route:
- There is currently some hard NTR content. Finish the route by not getting Wifey pregnant to access this event. Wifey will accept a new VIP section job at Midnight club.
If the PC was oblivious about Wifey and Jamal, she will reveal the nature of their relationship if Jamal's influence is higher than the player's. If not, the route will be redirected to the non NTR equivalent of the event.
Changelog 0.88
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
- added secret ending for non pregnancy Soft/hard NTR. Just finish the last club event and snoop and see! This is a replayable scene with semi random dialogue that changes depending on your game choices.
- fixed bugs so that the player is not sometimes locked out of end game content
Changelog 0.87
Continued Katie/Jamal's route
- Added last part of pregnancy ending for soft and hard NTR before Wifey gives birth
- Will have different dialogue depending on player choices for pregnancy
- There is a scene between the PC and Wifey after the discussion
- PC can also decide to break up with Wifey here
Changelog 0.86
Continued Katie/Jamal’s Route
This is a continuation of the non pregnancy ending on Katie's route, after the PC accepts for Wifey to continue working at the club in the VIP section
Spend more time with Wifey, and she will invite the PC to the club again. For Soft NTR, the PC can have a scene if the PC likes Wifey’s tattoo. If the PC chooses to not like the tattoo, Wifey can decide to break up with him if the Love Points are too low. The hard NTR route has the same scene (different dialogue depending on various player choices), but the PC can only watch.
Changelog 0.85:
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
- Finished non pregnancy ending event. Now you can see the Non NTR version. If the PC is on the hard NTR route, and has consistently beat Jamal's influence, the PC will be rewarded with the non NTR ending.
- If the PC is on the soft NTR route, Wifey will come home after her client, and talk about her evening while engaging in a scene.
- Added a snoop event for both soft and hard NTR, when Wifey sees another client after this event. The tattoo that you've requested is here!
Changelog 0.84
Continued Katie/Jamal route: Soft/hard NTR only
- Worked on non pregnancy ending: Finish the route by not getting Wifey pregnant to access this event. Wifey will accept a new VIP section job at Midnight club.
- Soft NTR: PC will be asked if Wifey should work at the VIP event. PC can decide to forbid her. If not, there will be a Snoop scene afterwards. Dialogue will vary based on route.
- Hard NTR: finished scene
Changelog 0.83
Continue Katie/Jamal route:
This update has a smaller amount of new content but has a large amount of changes to the dialogue of the Soft NTR path within this route, with the help of DD.
DD has been helping me with the Soft NTR path in this route and is very passionate about his work. Thanks DD!
There are so many changes that it would take a long time to list them all, so I suggest replaying this route completely if you like Soft NTR.
Some important changes for Soft NTR on Katie/Jamal route:
- Starting a new game will no longer prompt the user for "sharing". This will appear later in the game organically as a choice with NTR enabled.
- Added "Stag" dialogue in this route
- Wifey and Jamal's dialogue can further be influenced by their sexual chemistry
Added a new event post ending for the non pregnancy route:
- There is currently some hard NTR content. Finish the route by not getting Wifey pregnant to access this event. Wifey will accept a new VIP section job at Midnight club.
If the PC was oblivious about Wifey and Jamal, she will reveal the nature of their relationship if Jamal's influence is higher than the player's. If not, the route will be redirected to the non NTR equivalent of the event.
I'm currently on my first blind playthrough and I had picked the "hardcore/unavoidable" NTR (netorare) mode because I assumed that if I picked the "normal/soft" ntr mode that it would be too easy to avoid like in most other games just by being nice and protective towards the wife and not cheating on her. Is that not the case here with this particular "normal/soft" ntr mode if for instance I pick the hacker path and use snoop liberally?
Hard to avoid NTR > Unavoidable NTR > Easy to avoid (fake) NTR > No NTR in my book.
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Well, if you want unavoidable NTR than you choice was good, because the hardcore NTR mode means you loose every skill/stat check, no matter how good you are.
As a romance/sharing/swinging player, I would not touch the hardcore mode with a beanpole. (I speedrun it once for completeness reason and I am glad the other paths are far more to my liking)
As for "normal" NTR mode, avoiding NTR there depends on your traits/stats/skills and choices made. Using "snoop" makes it easier to fall into the NTR trap, but it does not need to. I made a "full snoop run" and was still able to win and keep Mei´s heart to the end of current content, you simply have to strategically use snoop and everything is ok on that front. I loath NTR deeply and I am very happy that we have really great romance/sharing/swinging paths in WDR too.
Ideally I'd rather have very hard to avoid NTR than unavoidable NTR so that I can feel like there's a point to making choices/decisions and that when NTR happens it's because I wasn't good enough, that I truly tried my best to prevent it and truly lost, rather than the game simply being rigged from the start. The more NTR can feel like it happened against the player's will (as opposed to feeling like the player forced NTR to happen) the greater the shock/sensation/kick it provides.
Was there meant to be a hint early in the game that using "snoop" makes it more likely to get NTRd for some reason or is it something players only become aware of after reaching the end/after checking the gamefiles/walkthrough?
Right now in my early hardcore ntr playthrough I already regret picking USF and using snoop because while I'm already seeing the wife getting kissed and her pussy rubbed by her boss during snoops, the MC seems to do absolutely nothing with that information, no confrontation, no reaction, no drama. He's acting like a passive NTS MC, not an ntr one, unrelatable, a buzzkill.
I'm going to have to restart and switch to the non-snoop job/PDC so that we only see what happens right in front of MC's eyes and in the hopes that he actually shows some appropriate reactions to what he sees right in front of him that way, some real anxiety, fear, pain, rage, loss etc.
I assume that if I went "normal NTR"+PDC+ picking all the obvious nice and protective choices and decisions it would lead to less than 50% chance of getting NTRd so I'd miss out?
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As I wrote earlier, the hardcore mode you enabled makes most choises completely irrelevant, you loose no matter what, that is total beta cuck territory.
The snoop skill in WDR is a twin edged sword, because it is a stand in for both the MCs wish to protect Mei and also a sign of not trusting her. That is why I said snoop has to be used strategically. If you use snoop because you want to watch over her, e.g. during the christmas party at Jamal´s club, the VD date or a VIP encounter, you will not get hit with bad results. On the other hand, if you use snoop because you do not trust her and invade privacy, you will get hit with e.g. stat drops.
Snoop events not looked at, do not happen like this, that is an important point here! No stat changes, no traits, no nothing, it does not happen, all that happens unseen is a lot tamer. For example, if you snoop the christmas party at jamal´s club, Mei gains the "drug haze" trait, if you do not snoop she does not gain this trait. The event happens but it is tamer, harmless. You get a boon trusting her by not snooping even if you can. But as said above, if you snoop because you want to watch over her, like in the club situation, she gains a trait, but you will not be hit by negative stats.
And if you make the less than ideal move to snoop everything you can, you will be hit with negative trait gains and stat losses.
You post also shows you currently do not know some other important thing. Well earned traits can be your friend in the game later on and love/rival points matter greatly! There are a lot of subpaths in the game, which depend on traits and high enough stats to be accessed.
Also you need love points 6+ to have a Mei/MC romance, happy to be together. The rival points also matter, if the rival points are equal or higher (depends on the situation) than the love points, Mei is more inclined towards your rival, opening up NTR possibilities. BUT how high the love/rival points are is important too. e.g. if you are on good terms with Jamal and you have say, 7 love points and 7-8 rival points you can get different scenes, but they will not be NTR as long as the points are not more apart than 1 point. Mei likes you two both, they are fun among friends.
Still you should keep the love points higher at certain times or generally if you are cautious, to be on the safe side no matter what happens.
On "hardcore NTR" PDC mode the MC just walked in on the wife fucking her boss during her birthday party and then they all act like it's no big deal. "See ya later, let's go to bed and talk about it some other day. You're in a good mood this morning" etc. That's the same passive/uncaring or even aroused reaction he also had when he caught them for the first time using snoop on hardcore NTR USF.
I get that this is a game where the story doesn't just end with the NTR reveal and that are several paths and different points on the timeline for each path where the NTR can be revealed for the first time so potentially not all first reveals are treated the same. But if he generally acts passive like this when it's revealed, like he's ok with it then he's an NTS MC, not an NTR one.
I get that this is a game where the story doesn't just end with the NTR reveal and that are several paths and different points on the timeline for each path where the NTR can be revealed for the first time so potentially not all first reveals are treated the same. But if he generally acts passive like this when it's revealed, like he's ok with it then he's an NTS MC, not an NTR one.
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Please read my post above! Look at the part about love rival points. The hardcore mode makes you losing every time, but it does not impact the love and rival points by itself. If you have high love points, even the hardcore mode is not about flying off the handle.
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WDR 0.88 Release!
Changelog 0.88
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
added secret ending for non pregnancy Soft/hard NTR. Just finish the last club event and snoop and see! This is a replayable scene with semi random dialogue that changes depending on your game choices.
fixed bugs so that the player is not sometimes locked out of end game content
Download:
Guide: Here
PC: Here
Mac: Here
Changelog 0.88
Continued Katie/Jamal route:
added secret ending for non pregnancy Soft/hard NTR. Just finish the last club event and snoop and see! This is a replayable scene with semi random dialogue that changes depending on your game choices.
fixed bugs so that the player is not sometimes locked out of end game content
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This is my preferred NTR also - I'm a big fan of WDR but it's definitely too easy to avoid the NTR (and some of the choices which I feel like should be forced are not - i.e. there will be an NTR choice which is only available if the rival hearts are high enough, but even with the high hearts you can just ... choose the other one.). WDR is still better than most on this front - I can try to snoop/share without going so far that the FMC leaves/cheats.
This thread https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-skill-issue-games.159401/ has some good games in this direction, although I'm always looking for more.