JakeTapper

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the Star Citizen of Porn Games :LOL:
At least Star Citizen has reached the point of quite a bit of playability. Like it's actually in a state where I can hop on with a bunch of friends and play for hours. This game doesn't even have a single gameplay loop yet lmao.

Sure, the story is non-existent, but why dont you play storygames for that if thats so fking important for you?
After 7+ years there is NO excuse for this. Like you can write as many walls of text as you want but you're not going to convince anyone that this is acceptable when there is supposed to be an RPG element to the game. Even if they implemented something very basic at least it would show an attempt at moving in this direction. As of now they have nothing to show and you should be embarrassed trying to defend that. They either need to announce it's going to remain a sandbox or try to implement SOMETHING.
 
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djr7

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You are saying this as if it is my fault. I am not the one who spent 7+ years to do nothing more than a glorified animation viewer. Literally not my fault. At this point it shouldn't be in "early development" and I will shit on it because it deserves to be shit on.
I never said anything was your fault though... you have zero influence on anything so why would there be blame? I was bascially agreeing with you.
 

lg123

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Dec 11, 2018
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How come after 7 years this game is stil just a scene viewer...?
I rember thinking of downloading this game 5 years ago, but thinking "meh i'll give it some more time.".
Now 5 years later i checked it out..
And, yup, it's just a scene viewer, pick character, watch one of 10 animations, maybe move some placeble objects...
That's it...
How the hell is that 7 years of game dev time...XD
I've shot off this opinion a few times before here but generally some folks here take it almost personally that something that they're not even working on isn't coming up to snuff.

Add another 7 and it will still only amount to a scene viewer. Tool around in ue5 for 4-5 months, then launch wildlife and you'll laugh.

My 2¢. This is a hussle that pushes something that sits on the edge of a minimally viable product, in perpetuity. I mean think of it this way - where is the impetus to actually finish this product if they're likely to make more off a slow patreon dev cycle than actual sales of a 1.0 release? You don't do patreon for a finished product, so why rush to a "release?". Hell, just do the big brain move and put the onus on the end user to make up their own content, so if they're not satisfied, then its clearly an end user problem while you slowly add/remove/rework things and release roadmaps and concept art like thats real progress.

Besides, they're developing on someone elses money. Normally a studio gets set funding or self funds, then has to work off a budget/schedule and a general scope/concept for a game and from that starting point you can build something out and work towards a finished product. Wildlife as a product right now is nebulous, vague, and directionless. The development speaks for itself, loudly, but some users here have never had a post nut clarity it seems. Patreon supporters don't demand milestones like a studio, so they'll take the drip of whatever is called production and the spigot stays open for yet another month of funding.

Reminds me of "The Day Before". No matter how obvious it was that the game was going to be a disaster, there were still a shocking number of people who defended it right up until release. The game finally comes out and then just like that, they all vanished. People don't see the problems, not because they can't, but because they refuse to.
 

limesseur

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No surprise people are still whining about the game not being as far along as they want it to be, thinking it's been a whole team working on it since the start. The dev team got bigger over time and was able to do more, they also had to learn different things, it takes time to model and code everything and then to make the animations with dealing with the mocap actors' schedules and having access to what they needed, while having a team dedicated to the sandbox mode to give something for people to mess around with during the early stages. Not to mention it has gone through reworks to the world and story and such just like a big studio would have, like look at the original Halo and what Bungie thought it was going to be early on.

The devs are actively working on the game, they share development progress, especially on the discord server there's a monthly progress report. The fishing village demo that gets touted as the holy grail of where the game was going have obviously forgotten what was said about it, which was that it was a demo and very likely would change, not to mention it was on the old map which the devs did not like, so as they got better they made a better world. The world is being filled in so it actually has locations, characters are getting updates related to those new locations, the story is slowly being worked on. As for bugs, if you expected a game in active development that is being shared for everyone to play to not have bugs, then when you get a bug it's on you, but you report it so the devs can actually do something about it. At least there's something here, be happy for that.
 

Purple_Heart

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No surprise people are still whining about the game not being as far along as they want it to be, thinking it's been a whole team working on it since the start. The dev team got bigger over time and was able to do more, they also had to learn different things, it takes time to model and code everything and then to make the animations with dealing with the mocap actors' schedules and having access to what they needed
Congratulations, you've described every single developer ever.

while having a team dedicated to the sandbox mode to give something for people to mess around with during the early stages.
Literally nobody asked or paid for and patreon page still says this is an rpg.

Not to mention it has gone through reworks to the world and story and such just like a big studio would have
Nobody told them to "rework" the world and non-existent story for the millionth time. Seems to me it was all intentional just to milk more patreon cows.

The devs are actively working on the game, they share development progress, especially on the discord server there's a monthly progress report.
Monthly report: We made it possible to play pong in our sandbox mode!

The world is being filled in so it actually has locations, characters are getting updates related to those new locations, the story is slowly being worked on.
Yeah, it has been slowly being worked on for years. "Slowly" is an understatement by the way.

be happy for that
I am so happy this is yet another patreon cash grab that is intentionally stuck in a development hell just to milk horny people. I am especially happy with knowing that there are people who actually shamelessly defend this.
 

Pete20

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Dec 2, 2017
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The Vr camera still doesnt work in the ue 5.3 version and, after asking on the official discord, there is no response. If it is not going to be supported anymore at least delete the vr dependencies so that we can run the UEVR injector without problems.
 
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Ikarianus

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Jan 1, 2018
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To be honest? I don't like the actual version (Build 15.12.2023 at this time) of the game. You're forced to play a male rookie of a Soldier/Explorer. Well, this may be just my personal preference, but i loved playing the cute Girl with wings, doing Quests and having Sex. It felt much more like actual "Wild life" to me.
These Explorers don't fit in this world at all. They are too "advanced" and it feels like playing a different version of Avatar (the one with the blue people, not the one with the elements).
I'd like to play a native girl, trying to solve some upcoming problems, to save her tribe, or even the world. Yeah you can build these futuristic people in at some point (if you really have to), but they should be the evil enemies.
Well, as i said, it's just my personal preference, since i don't like playing dude's at all.

Well, i keep myself updated on the progress, but if the dude keeps being the main role, i will abandon this. But if we get to play the cute winged girl again as MC, then i will gladly pay 50-60€ for the game.
 
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benisfug

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No surprise people are still whining about the game not being as far along as they want it to be, thinking it's been a whole team working on it since the start. The dev team got bigger over time and was able to do more, they also had to learn different things, it takes time to model and code everything and then to make the animations with dealing with the mocap actors' schedules and having access to what they needed, while having a team dedicated to the sandbox mode to give something for people to mess around with during the early stages. Not to mention it has gone through reworks to the world and story and such just like a big studio would have, like look at the original Halo and what Bungie thought it was going to be early on.

The devs are actively working on the game, they share development progress, especially on the discord server there's a monthly progress report. The fishing village demo that gets touted as the holy grail of where the game was going have obviously forgotten what was said about it, which was that it was a demo and very likely would change, not to mention it was on the old map which the devs did not like, so as they got better they made a better world. The world is being filled in so it actually has locations, characters are getting updates related to those new locations, the story is slowly being worked on. As for bugs, if you expected a game in active development that is being shared for everyone to play to not have bugs, then when you get a bug it's on you, but you report it so the devs can actually do something about it. At least there's something here, be happy for that.
Halo is a terrible comparison considering it still managed to get done in like 5 years despite its development being a total clusterfuck of changing genre, platform, art styles, and the company going through a crippling financial disaster.

As far back as I've been able to look Wild Life hasn't deviated much from its early ideas and honestly the story and world don't seem to be that thought out beyond "space humans hang out on primitive furry planet because reasons".
 

Petern

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To be honest? I don't like the actual version (Build 15.12.2023 at this time) of the game. You're forced to play a male rookie of a Soldier/Explorer. Well, this may be just my personal preference, but i loved playing the cute Girl with wings, doing Quests and having Sex. It felt much more like actual "Wild life" to me.
These Explorers don't fit in this world at all. They are too "advanced" and it feels like playing a different version of Avatar (the one with the blue people, not the one with the elements).
I'd like to play a native girl, trying to solve some upcoming problems, to save her tribe, or even the world. Yeah you can build these futuristic people in at some point (if you really have to), but they should be the evil enemies.
Well, as i said, it's just my personal preference, since i don't like playing dude's at all.

Well, i keep myself updated on the progress, but if the dude keeps being the main role, i will abandon this. But if we get to play the cute winged girl again as MC, then i will gladly pay 50-60€ for the game.
When was it possible to do quests with the girl protagonist? Seriously asking, because I missed that.
 
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AdeptusSteve

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When was it possible to do quests with the girl protagonist? Seriously asking, because I missed that.
That was our Apoc demo from back in 2018/19. Man a lot changed since then. But I really want to get that type of feeling back for Mayas part of the main game, so you can "fly around as the cute Girl with wings, doing Quests and having Sex. "
 
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Petern

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That was our Apoc demo from back in 2018/19. Man a lot changed since then. But I really want to get that type of feeling back for Mayas part of the main game, so you can "fly around as the cute Girl with wings, doing Quests and having Sex. "
I only remember something that's probably earlier than that stage: desert, a campfire and about 5 characters around it with interaction options, going around as Maya. I suppose the quests came later.
 

AdeptusSteve

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I only remember something that's probably earlier than that stage: desert, a campfire and about 5 characters around it with interaction options, going around as Maya. I suppose the quests came later.
Yea that was the very first prototype in 2017 that I put together myself with my limited UE4 knowledge (im still learning).
Based on the "success" of publishing that we began to work more on fleshing out the project and hiring more developers to start an actual production.
 

lg123

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Dec 11, 2018
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I am so happy this is yet another patreon cash grab that is intentionally stuck in a development hell just to milk horny people. I am especially happy with knowing that there are people who actually shamelessly defend this.
I'm usually cynical enough to say the same thing but I don't think it started out this way. But the whole thing started as a vague idea anyway as some kind of survival rpg game but with sex. That was the thing to make it exceptional in that it was actually a game, unlike the other junk thats on the market.

Look at it this way; take away the nudity and sex and tell me what you're actually left with? Ideas and intention are great and all but eventually those have to translate into something that exists when you launch wildlife. Having numerous different iterations of the same thing but never sticking to something and building off of it is as close to the definition of development hell I can think of. Looking at the patreon alone tells me heaps is getting done but the end user still has to play a game, and not just be sustained off hopes and dreams from patch notes. I sure hope the procedural generation tools for the map maker is exceptionally good...

And I don't say these things with malice or bad intent. I always root for the underdog, so Wild life failing is a bad thing for the adult game genre. But it is my personal opinion that there isn't going to be a "release" of a game before 2030, not at this rate. The team is small, I get it, but this is what happens when things go slowly. Vision and original scope of design slowly change and you're always playing catch up with the new vision.
 

Wlms

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Breaking news, haters gonna hate, more at 12.
Ah yes, the hate

Everyone who dares criticize what you like is obviously a hater, because you couldn't be wrong about anything and know better than everyone else on the fcking planet.

Again, because you don't seem to get it : criticizing =/= hating
 
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