Unreal Engine Wild Life [Patreon Build 2024.04.19] [Adeptus Steve]
Of course adding gameplay would not make the game less attractive to customers.
But it would tie up a lot of their resources for something that probably a lot of their customers dont care for as much as for new animations or new critters.
Maybe a little example from mainstream porn:
Average porn movies have one sex scene after another. Not much story no special effects.
There are a very few however, that tried. Like Pirates XXX. So let me ask: if that formula would work, why are there not more of those?
My point: Story and porn dont really go well together.
And many sources... Not for fully controllable, real time rendered interactions with VR support in this quality and with some Furrys on top. Definitely not. If you do know some, however, please let me know!
Because the vast majority are like the person I replied to. They don't care about all that other stuff, they only care about what they can get their rocks off to. You offer your patreons what they want, and for the majority it's something they can masturbate to.
That's why they've chosen to hold off until they can show a decent chunk of the experience, over a single testing phase of questing like one of their previous builds that cost them a lot of money for simply showing people what they were working on.
It's cool, I get that many don't understand what they're doing. But when you step back and take notice of everything you can easily identify why most people play these games. They could release every single quest/story build they could and they would simply lose money if it didn't involve some form of sexual intercourse.
The overwhelming majority simply want masturbation material. If you don't cater to the majority, you risk losing the funding they now have to pay the entire team they just hired.
No ifs, ands or buts about it.
The estimated completion time is roughly 2 years from now as he said in a post. Which is still pretty good given they just got an alright sized team. Again, most games that are of this caliber take anywhere from 2-4 years with twice the manpower they have or more. So our expectations shouldn't be like they're some company with hundreds of millions of dollars and scores of devs at their fingertips.
The beginning of a gaming project is always the longest stretch. Just look at how far they've come over the past few years. He was working on the beginning of something wonderful way before this and finally got around to going for it. Got someone else to tag along and pushed through all those roadblocks. Now they've got a full fledged team and enough funding to truly grind out content.
Not fair to judge the work of 2 people and I assume some outsourced work from the previous years to what they will be doing with all the extra talent that now works for them. Nothing ever looks pretty when you first start it and very few actually make it to the point they have.
And part of their making it this far is catering to their majority... which don't care about questing or story.
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Sorry but you have no idea about anything if you believe people talk about porn games as casual as they do with normal games like CoD, LoL, Minecraft or Overwatch. Buttloads of people would rather never fap again before they would have to admit that they are into porn games. This goes both for talking about it irl and on the internet.
That alone makes it extremely difficult to sell that stuff or make it just as normaly accepted as the "mainstream" games. No matter how big the budget and team is behind those games...it won't be an amazing success in europe or the US.
Lets be honest: EVERY publisher of gaming software caters to the majority of their customer base. EA would not drown us in brain dead ego shooters if that would not be the case.
Umm... yes. That was pretty much the argument I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to make
So it makes more sense to invest their limited resources into the stuff the majority of their userbase probably wants.
In regular porn, I agree. Story is almost always not needed. But even in regular porn, having some setting, some context can make it more enjoyable. Why do you think we have genres like stepmother/sister?
But we are talking about a porn game here. And in the state it is in now, I would not consider Wild Life a game. That is what I was getting at. It needs something in addition to the porn. Gameplay, story, whatever. Something to give it context. Something to make it an actual game and not just a gallery.
You're giving me hope. Let's see if it'll work out.
What @Porn_Jesus was referring to is that you were saying that Wild Life would be "competing" with mainstream games if they would add gameplay. Which I think is not how that works. Like I said. Porn games are and will always be a niche. Something you don't talk about in the same conversation as Conan, Ark, and Subnautica, the games you compared it to. At least not outside of environments like this forum.Umm... yes. That was pretty much the argument I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to make
So it makes more sense to invest their limited resources into the stuff the majority of their userbase probably wants.
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Anyway, they will be successful if they stick to what the majority wants and if Patreon can calm down with their rule changing policy to not make life even more difficult for nsfw creators.Umm... yes. That was pretty much the argument I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to make
So it makes more sense to invest their limited resources into the stuff the majority of their userbase probably wants.
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Its sex game so I dont think game needs super in depth lore and story but there should be something more then that you approach something and have an intercourse. Story should be just guideline of players choice that begins with choice of gender and customization and continues with choices in open world and explorations. Maybe some core mechanics of how to achieve sex scene for example by persuasion, gold, defeat or hunt/catch(female) if you play male character. Specifically for Maya(daughter of tribe leader) I see good story that you offer to save that tribe from some inevitable disaster if you can take daughter of tribe leader as price.
That is very true. Probably the biggest threat they face.
If those self righteous holier-then-though a****** gain any more influence on Patreon they might very easily end up without support. Their furry stuff is probably already on the cutting edge of what Patreon accepts. And probably the cause why they still dont have real four leggers in there like they showcased at the very beginning.
They have said that there won't be any bestiality in the game because of Patreon IIRC. But which "four legger" are you talking about that they showcased? Do you mean the panther? That one was anthropomorphised just like the non-humans in the current build are. Speaking of which, it was never clear why that panther hasn't been reintroduced, or why it even was removed in the first place.
Nono, I meant that what the 80% care about is unmatched, which is the sex scenes, animations and model design. It's just beautiful. I thought thats obvious since there is no story whatsoever
I have no clue how they would actually integrate the sex scenes into a real, story-driven game. Maybe they can do it, I certainly hope so. In the meantime, I think it's already enjoyable what they produced...
Love the fact that some ones making a game that requires a good system. The game on max settings look AMAZING!!! I've only bought two game series Girlvania and X-Moon. Graphics are on par with Girlvania but wtih B/G content. Keep it up! Will buy full release easily.
You are right, the panther was two legged, too. I kind of remembered him as a real panther and thought he was removed because of that.
Now its a good question why they removed him.
They made a few design decisions I dont get, anyway. Like the new girl they introduced this build. She is a human girl like the others. They just made her a bit taller so now they have to do all the animations specifically for her. What a waste of resources.
A complete set of new animations would be better used for a uniquely new character.
I agree that the animations and models are very good. In terms of animation, perhaps Fap Life may come close, but we're talking about a very early development game from someone that's primarily an animator here.Nono, I meant that what the 80% care about is unmatched, which is the sex scenes, animations and model design. It's just beautiful. I thought thats obvious since there is no story whatsoever
I have no clue how they would actually integrate the sex scenes into a real, story-driven game. Maybe they can do it, I certainly hope so. In the meantime, I think it's already enjoyable what they produced...
They do at least have plans for a story. I know that much. Once I watched part of one of Steve's streams, and he was talking about his plans and the story and all that. At the time it sounded very ambitious. I was confident that they would not ever realize his dreams for this game. I still don't have a lot of hope, but at least the game is not showing signs of dying yet. Something not a lot of H games can say so far (in terms of time) into the development.
I don't think it's a waste of resources entirely. You can think of her as any other new character. Like the furry critters, she caters to a certain niche. Some people like to fantasize about sex with a powerful woman. I'm personally not actively looking for that kind of stuff, but at the same time I can appreciate her addition.
Absolutley. In fact, all my friends are either embarassed or at least uncomfortable when I try to tell them about WildLife. The only one open to it is one of my friends who played Cobra Mission back in the days (yeah damn we're old...).
And I honestly could not describe what I wanted a game to be like. I guess Mass Effect with really really good sex scenes would be awesome. But how much would that be of the game? 1%? Quite unrealistic.
Or maybe if they sold their tech to AAA software forges and in every game where there is sex, there really is sex. *Sigh* What a sight that would be...
I'm surprised you even talk about H games with your friends at all. As far as I'm aware, no one in my real life has any idea about this life I'm living.
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Imo the worst decision they made yet for new characters is that chubby ugly guy. While it's not forbidden to be overweight at all i would feel better if such content can be toggled off if it's about sex and walking around half naked. Japan loves their "ugly guy fucks beautiful woman" genre (no idea what the correct name for that fetish is) but afaik the dev team isn't full japanese.^^
The devs already offer a buttload of customization for every character, surely being able to make them optional later with either an option to deactivate said content or giving a very obvious warning isn't that much to ask for. Ofc the same can be a thing for the anthro NPCs (or playing as one if every character gets their own storyline) but then i have to wonder why people play a game called Wild Life and not just another 3D game with 100% humans.
The devs already offer a buttload of customization for every character, surely being able to make them optional later with either an option to deactivate said content or giving a very obvious warning isn't that much to ask for. Ofc the same can be a thing for the anthro NPCs (or playing as one if every character gets their own storyline) but then i have to wonder why people play a game called Wild Life and not just another 3D game with 100% humans.