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Pirates moaning about Pirates in a Pirate site, what else is new 
Who said I never supported?Or maybe if there weren't any "sheep" like me, you wouldn't have anyone to leech off of, eh?
A "fan" of his work who's never contributed a single dime to the creation of that work, but who's also quite vocal and entitled about his opinion and passes judgements around as if he was God himself.
Here's a little concept that might be hard to get your head around, but it basically goes like this - no one in this life owes you a fucking thing. Neither Wildeer himself, nor the people who are voluntarily sharing his work here, so freeloaders like you can consume and then have the audacity to make demands.
And I strongly suspect the reason why the latest updates aren't posted here, is because of the giga-toxic atmosphere bitchers and moaners like you have created in the last 20-30 pages or so. It's definitely the reason why I'm not posting them for sure.
You are talking about the 01 minute with 10 secconds clip, right?sinistercookies
Why u cry here, but ask for updates?
Wildeer release the tentacle corridor last month, so stop lying about he do nothing.
When his patreons agree with his works, its not ur problem when they support him.
Yes, isn't much else he could be tbh lolYou are talking about the 01 minute with 10 secconds clip, right?
This man is speaking the truthWho said I never supported?
And nobody is making demands. Nobody feels like they're "owed" anything. Who are you talking about? I've only asked questions and expressed my frustration with his seemingly non-existent progress. There's nothing "toxic" about that.
It's not that deep bro. It's actually really simple, let me explain it to you.
Me and you both want the same things. We want wildeer to complete the projects he has promised, because we love is work. He's really good at what he does, clearly.
Here's where we differ. I think, that someone who is more than 6 months behind schedule and still nothing to show for it is no longer worth supporting and should be held to account. THAT WAY, he can't simply take and take and take from supporters month after month with nothing but empty promises and piecemeal token updates. THAT WAY, he actually has to produce content to make money, which is called "incentive".
YOU however, believe that still not having even a rough estimate for a release date for content that is more than 6 months late is completely acceptable behaviour, and we all just need to keep our mouths shut and keep throwing money at him. We should all reward wildeer for not delivering, and if anyone asks "hey, where's the content? This guy has been getting paid for 6 months straight for seeminly nothing", we should shout them down and call them "toxic" (not realizing the irony that you're actually the toxic one).
THAT WAY, there's zero incentive for wildeer to release anything, and zero chance of anything ever being done about it. How great right!?
Tell me, if he still hasn't released anything in 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, will you still be sending him money every month and coming on here telling people that they're "entitled" if they complain??? If yes, you're an idiot. If no, then you agree with me, you're just not aware yet.
If you want to speak up for Wildeer, I don't think referring to the tentacle corridor embarrassment as some sort of substitution for the promised projects is the way to go about it. It's actually the exact type of thing people are complaining about.sinistercookies
Why u cry here, but ask for updates?
Wildeer release the tentacle corridor last month, so stop lying about he do nothing.
When his patreons agree with his works, its not ur problem when they support him.
The fact that you're asking for updates here says you're not supporting now. Whether or not you've done so in the past is your own business. However, in general people who have been past supporters but are no longer subscribed, don't tend to throw tantrums and make declarations on F95...Who said I never supported?
And nobody is making demands. Nobody feels like they're "owed" anything. Who are you talking about? I've only asked questions and expressed my frustration with his seemingly non-existent progress. There's nothing "toxic" about that.
It's not that deep bro. It's actually really simple, let me explain it to you.
Me and you both want the same things. We want wildeer to complete the projects he has promised, because we love is work. He's really good at what he does, clearly.
Here's where we differ. I think, that someone who is more than 6 months behind schedule and still nothing to show for it is no longer worth supporting and should be held to account. THAT WAY, he can't simply take and take and take from supporters month after month with nothing but empty promises and piecemeal token updates. THAT WAY, he actually has to produce content to make money, which is called "incentive".
YOU however, believe that still not having even a rough estimate for a release date for content that is more than 6 months late is completely acceptable behaviour, and we all just need to keep our mouths shut and keep throwing money at him. We should all reward wildeer for not delivering, and if anyone asks "hey, where's the content? This guy has been getting paid for 6 months straight for seeminly nothing", we should shout them down and call them "toxic" (not realizing the irony that you're actually the toxic one).
THAT WAY, there's zero incentive for wildeer to release anything, and zero chance of anything ever being done about it. How great right!?
Tell me, if he still hasn't released anything in 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, will you still be sending him money every month and coming on here telling people that they're "entitled" if they complain??? If yes, you're an idiot. If no, then you agree with me, you're just not aware yet.
Curiously, none of these people are anywhere to be found in the comments of Wildeer's posts on Patreon/Subscribestar. Such a mystery that they're not featured in the one place they actually have the power to be complaining.If you want to speak up for Wildeer, I don't think referring to the tentacle corridor embarrassment as some sort of substitution for the promised projects is the way to go about it. It's actually the exact type of thing people are complaining about.
If I were more cynical, I would argue that those comments are being deleted instead. Certainly wouldn't be the first time I've heard of practices such as that in this industry.Curiously, none of these people are anywhere to be found in the comments of Wildeer's posts on Patreon/Subscribestar. Such a mystery that they're not featured in the one place they actually have the power to be complaining.
You know it's Stockholm Syndrome right? And not Helsinki Syndrome...My first comment here after a long time just watching, gentlemen, you have to be blind not to realize that Wilder is milking you.
Let's be practical / intelligent, with the model of Lara that he has created, many other artists are doing the work that he does not want to do, at this time, it is more profitable to invest money in those people, than in Wilder himself, when he stops making money, you will see how that "motivates" him, (or it will disappear).
If we want the porn that we like so much to improve over the years, we must reward the committed and hardworking people, do not be afraid, possibly those people (like Pyro among others for example), will continue with his legacy or improve it.
But that will never happen if we continue to reward the wrong people.
If we did the same in our jobs, how long would it take to get fired?
The criticism makes sense 1 time, maybe 2, if it goes on for a long time already maybe we should start talking about a kind of helsinki syndrome.
He has already been given more chances than he deserves, it's time to act.
Greetings.
I only show my point of view (with respect), with my previous writing.The fact that you're asking for updates here says you're not supporting now. Whether or not you've done so in the past is your own business. However, in general people who have been past supporters but are no longer subscribed, don't tend to throw tantrums and make declarations on F95...
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Curiously, none of these people are anywhere to be found in the comments of Wildeer's posts on Patreon/Subscribestar. Such a mystery that they're not featured in the one place they actually have the power to be complaining.
I admit that it may not have been the best simile, but I think what I am trying to say has been understood.You know it's Stockholm Syndrome right? And not Helsinki Syndrome...
Full agree on this. Milk from 2461 people, and I bet my ass not all them are just 1 dollar each if not 4.5 or 9. So he earns 5000 easy for a few hours of work per month. Just to see the delivering rates from others devs by months or even weeks. It works for him, congrats. He could be a good politicianMy first comment here after a long time just watching, gentlemen, you have to be blind not to realize that Wilder is milking you.
Let's be practical / intelligent, with the model of Lara that he has created, many other artists are doing the work that he does not want to do, at this time, it is more profitable to invest money in those people, than in Wilder himself, when he stops making money, you will see how that "motivates" him, (or it will disappear).
If we want the porn that we like so much to improve over the years, we must reward the committed and hardworking people, do not be afraid, possibly those people (like Pyro among others for example), will continue with his legacy or improve it.
But that will never happen if we continue to reward the wrong people.
If we did the same in our jobs, how long would it take to get fired?
The criticism makes sense 1 time, maybe 2, if it goes on for a long time already maybe we should start talking about a kind of helsinki syndrome.
He has already been given more chances than he deserves, it's time to act.
Greetings.
With all my respect, who are you to say what other people should say, write or think in a free forum? Really, so long text to rant about other peoples rantingsThe fact that you're asking for updates here says you're not supporting now. Whether or not you've done so in the past is your own business. However, in general people who have been past supporters but are no longer subscribed, don't tend to throw tantrums and make declarations on F95...
As far as the rest goes - sure, once you're not happy with what's being posted by him, it's your obligation to cease your support for him. Which is what I have done in the past, even if I'm currently donating on his SubscribeStar page. If I feel like it - I'll have no issues stopping support there at any point in the future.
Thing is, Wildeer was making a few surveys some time ago - not everyone in the world is desperate to see Lara inflated by a horse cock. Whether you like it or not, there are other people with other tastes, who happen to be his supporters and he has to balance for their demand as well.
In any case, I'll tell you what's idiotic - flooding a thread on an external forum (created so his works could be shared for free) with constant calls for the waaahmbulance, while not saying a single word on his official channel. In that case - you're either a paper tiger who's been too much of a pussy to stand for what he considers his interests in the past when he had the chance, or you're straight up lying about having supported him in the past.
And just to be clear - perhaps this is your one and only complaint about him on this thread (not following exactly who does the whining in each post), in which case I'd apologize for what surely seems like an over-reaction from your perspective. My comment was more broadly aimed at the army of moaners and "victims" of Wildeer's "laziness".
Curiously, none of these people are anywhere to be found in the comments of Wildeer's posts on Patreon/Subscribestar. Such a mystery that they're not featured in the one place they actually have the power to be complaining.
We're slaves to porn, there is no freedom here.free forum?
I think you're correct. Just when Wildeer was starting, similar critique was deleted. Soon you're left with mostly apologists who will defend you against any critical people remaining. There not being enough critical voices on Subscribestar doesn't mean anything.If I were more cynical, I would argue that those comments are being deleted instead. Certainly wouldn't be the first time I've heard of practices such as that in this industry.