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I would say bulgingsenpai has it looking really good, if not the best from what I saw in 3D scene.I mean, can anyone really?
I would say bulgingsenpai has it looking really good, if not the best from what I saw in 3D scene.I mean, can anyone really?
I dunno about that one, you have much better artists out there who do better animations and they release content quite regularly compared to Wildeer in this amount of time. His lighting and models are insane for sure, but the animation itself is very basic compared to some other creators.People on his Patreon seem to think he's a perfectionist and it's hindering him tremendously. It's hard to argue against that. There has to be a give and take on quality vs. releasing content. I love his quality, but not if it's only in theory.
I don't disagree, but that wasn't my point. If someone is a perfectionist, it blocks their ability to work and provide content. You can be a perfectionist but still be only average at something. Some of his patrons seem to think that's his problem.I dunno about that one, you have much better artists out there who do better animations and they release content quite regularly compared to Wildeer in this amount of time. His lighting and models are insane for sure, but the animation itself is very basic compared to some other creators.
Maybe we will wait another yearhe should have just released part 3 a year ago with a mediocre cumshot and do a remaster afterwards, so by the time we actually get p3 he could have just published the remastered version.
because now he is raising everyones expecations through the roof by working on that 1 scene for like 2 years.
Yup...Ridiculous
sounds like a planSomeone should suggest him to start from scratch again.
Yeah. We definitely know he hasn't spent much, or any, of that money on upgrading his equipment. As far as I know, he still only renders at night on the same machine that he poses with.It's weird... Like two weeks ago, guy was saying "yeah, it's all on track, it's coming along nicely" and now all of a sudden we've got these "problems"... If I had to guess, being from the same region (East Europe) as him, I'd wager he was just procrastinating all along... $10K a month is big money in Eastern Europe.. Wildeer probably got a mansion for himself, and another one for his parents and he's been hitting the discos looking for some flashy female to attract...
Okay, then. This clears things up. This is his hobby, he's doing it whenever he feels like it and doesn't owe anyone to release anything at any point. Good. I hope his financial supporters get this message loud and clear - they are paying only for his promise to work on the project. He doesn't have to work on it, he can give up on it any day, and even if he finishes it - he isn't obliged to share it with anyone. One day he can just post "So long, morons!", deactivate Patreon and Subscribestar profiles and vanish.I do the animations when I feel like it and I have time and then I release it when it’s done. Or not and I'll keep it to myself.
dude earns 102k after Tax and is complaining he can't hire additional help?About my finances quickly, we raised a total of ~ $15,000 a month from the Patreon and Subscribestar sites. After deducting taxes and contributions, I have ~ 8,500 dollars left. Just an information picture, if I hired a talented freelance animator, he would make me a 5 minute animation for $30-50,000. So that it doesn’t include modeling, video editing, sound work, and so on. Currently, this is not an option.
I think you misunderstood him, mostly because he wrote it a bit unclearly. I think this is just a part of the "what if I close the accounts" scenario he was posting. He then goes on to say how much he appreciates his majority, etc.Okay, then. This clears things up. This is his hobby, he's doing it whenever he feels like it and doesn't owe anyone to release anything at any point. Good. I hope his financial supporters get this message loud and clear - they are paying only for his promise to work on the project. He doesn't have to work on it, he can give up on it any day, and even if he finishes it - he isn't obliged to share it with anyone. One day he can just post "So long, morons!", deactivate Patreon and Subscribestar profiles and vanish.
I won't be complaining here anymore. It is what it is.
Looks like based Roberto bro made the wildcuck seethe.Today's dramapost from
You must be registered to see the linksin Milky Blur WIP anim (mentioned by Kevork)
you have 2.5K patreons, giving you 5 euros, 1 euro, 10 euros you give them nothing. You get minimum 5k euros at month for releasing nothing. But nobody is complaining, so... Enjoy your vacation. I'm out. Sorry.
Wildeer response (he has been very active recently):
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Roberto is my huge fan (that's what he wrote to me). Roberto has spent 18 days here in total. And so far, he has supported my work with $2.34. That means $1.4 to me after tax, of which even Patreon and Payoneer deduct a few percent. After depositing his first dollar, Roberto accessed all of my content through the archive, a link to which he asked me for. For content that has been costing supporters for months or years hundreds of dollars and a lot of their time. But Roberto ran out of patience and interest. A few days ago, Roberto still assured of his full support. He didn’t get the ban because he was criticizing, but because he was a retard. And he writes nonsense. In 18 days he managed to draw a lot of wrong conclusions.
Let's start with the money. Some people really like to rummage through another person’s pocket. So I didn’t switch to euro prices. That would be much better for me. I would earn more. The Patreon is not the one-on-one exchange of the dollar for the euro, nor are the banks. It will help you to be able to pay in your own currencies. There is no extra currency exchange fee.You must be registered to see the links
If you pay more than a dollar to sign up, it is because the country / state you live in taxes you. It will never be my money.
About my finances quickly, we raised a total of ~ $15,000 a month from the Patreon and Subscribestar sites. After deducting taxes and contributions, I have ~ 8,500 dollars left. Just an information picture, if I hired a talented freelance animator, he would make me a 5 minute animation for $30-50,000. So that it doesn’t include modeling, video editing, sound work, and so on. Currently, this is not an option.
The fact that I didn't release anything ... Yes, there was no new part of the two big titles. It's my fault, I agree. But, plenty of content came with short animations. Halloween, corridor, deep throat. The latter with VA work. Lots of BTS and other exciting image projects. The size of the archive has doubled in one year. I don't think it's just a WIP image.
Vacation. I haven’t had a weekend off in months. Because I'm trying to bring in my backlog. I have not been on holiday for more than 5 years, I have not taken more than 2-3 days off. I started doing learning, practicing, and working on the whole project years earlier than I started publishing. I understand it was a formulaic wording from Roberto, but its meaning really annoyed me. I spend a lot of time on the project, much more than it would be healthy. I'm sorry it's not visible. Or it doesn't seem to everyone.
I will not tolerate this behavior in the future either. There was probably a deliberate provocation in this as well, because a similar post appeared during two consecutive posts. I still overlooked the first one, anyone could have a bad day. That day it was for me too. I think this is not only a disrespect to me, but also to those who have been here for months and have been waiting for a very long time. I don’t know what such a person would expect after typing one of these? The next day, will I suddenly release LiT7 and P3 at the same time? I do not understand.
Please don't be Roberto. (I apologize to all Roberto for this.)
It has occurred to me very many times lately that I am terminating my Patreon and Subscribestar accounts. I get up and go on vacation. I fuck my money for whores, drinks, drugs. If this is what they think of me, why not do this? I return to the hobby level with the project. I will stop communicating. I do the animations when I feel like it and I have time and then I release it when it’s done. Or not and I'll keep it to myself.
Then I remember that it’s just a loud minority. And as Roberto wrote, I have 2,500 supporters. Which is also not true because he didn’t count on the great Subscribestar guys. So I have a total of 3497 supporters. That’s a lot of lots of people who are here for my job and give me their money. I didn't call them. They came voluntarily. They’re the “quiet” majority, they are the ones I do this for. And I am grateful to them. Thanks guys!
I'm sorry I had to write this post. I didn’t plan, but I saw some people like Roberto’s post. They too can follow Roberto calmly. It was really just so much for me to let go of my nervousness. I still have a lot to do here. And I want to make it all happen.
Thank you Roberto, you have been my biggest fan forever.
OMFG He's so full of shit. What a an outrageous lying arsehole he is. Dude makes like 100k after tax in an eastern European country and says he can't afford to hire another animator. Bro, in an eastern European country on that wage he could afford to hire 3 guys and still live comfortably. He could buy new equipment, up the production speed, up the quality, and give all the fans what they want. He could attract way more people, grow a much bigger audience and produce even more content... BUT NO!!!Today's dramapost from
You must be registered to see the linksin Milky Blur WIP anim (mentioned by Kevork)
you have 2.5K patreons, giving you 5 euros, 1 euro, 10 euros you give them nothing. You get minimum 5k euros at month for releasing nothing. But nobody is complaining, so... Enjoy your vacation. I'm out. Sorry.
Wildeer response (he has been very active recently):
You must be registered to see the links
Roberto is my huge fan (that's what he wrote to me). Roberto has spent 18 days here in total. And so far, he has supported my work with $2.34. That means $1.4 to me after tax, of which even Patreon and Payoneer deduct a few percent. After depositing his first dollar, Roberto accessed all of my content through the archive, a link to which he asked me for. For content that has been costing supporters for months or years hundreds of dollars and a lot of their time. But Roberto ran out of patience and interest. A few days ago, Roberto still assured of his full support. He didn’t get the ban because he was criticizing, but because he was a retard. And he writes nonsense. In 18 days he managed to draw a lot of wrong conclusions.
Let's start with the money. Some people really like to rummage through another person’s pocket. So I didn’t switch to euro prices. That would be much better for me. I would earn more. The Patreon is not the one-on-one exchange of the dollar for the euro, nor are the banks. It will help you to be able to pay in your own currencies. There is no extra currency exchange fee.You must be registered to see the links
If you pay more than a dollar to sign up, it is because the country / state you live in taxes you. It will never be my money.
About my finances quickly, we raised a total of ~ $15,000 a month from the Patreon and Subscribestar sites. After deducting taxes and contributions, I have ~ 8,500 dollars left. Just an information picture, if I hired a talented freelance animator, he would make me a 5 minute animation for $30-50,000. So that it doesn’t include modeling, video editing, sound work, and so on. Currently, this is not an option.
The fact that I didn't release anything ... Yes, there was no new part of the two big titles. It's my fault, I agree. But, plenty of content came with short animations. Halloween, corridor, deep throat. The latter with VA work. Lots of BTS and other exciting image projects. The size of the archive has doubled in one year. I don't think it's just a WIP image.
Vacation. I haven’t had a weekend off in months. Because I'm trying to bring in my backlog. I have not been on holiday for more than 5 years, I have not taken more than 2-3 days off. I started doing learning, practicing, and working on the whole project years earlier than I started publishing. I understand it was a formulaic wording from Roberto, but its meaning really annoyed me. I spend a lot of time on the project, much more than it would be healthy. I'm sorry it's not visible. Or it doesn't seem to everyone.
I will not tolerate this behavior in the future either. There was probably a deliberate provocation in this as well, because a similar post appeared during two consecutive posts. I still overlooked the first one, anyone could have a bad day. That day it was for me too. I think this is not only a disrespect to me, but also to those who have been here for months and have been waiting for a very long time. I don’t know what such a person would expect after typing one of these? The next day, will I suddenly release LiT7 and P3 at the same time? I do not understand.
Please don't be Roberto. (I apologize to all Roberto for this.)
It has occurred to me very many times lately that I am terminating my Patreon and Subscribestar accounts. I get up and go on vacation. I fuck my money for whores, drinks, drugs. If this is what they think of me, why not do this? I return to the hobby level with the project. I will stop communicating. I do the animations when I feel like it and I have time and then I release it when it’s done. Or not and I'll keep it to myself.
Then I remember that it’s just a loud minority. And as Roberto wrote, I have 2,500 supporters. Which is also not true because he didn’t count on the great Subscribestar guys. So I have a total of 3497 supporters. That’s a lot of lots of people who are here for my job and give me their money. I didn't call them. They came voluntarily. They’re the “quiet” majority, they are the ones I do this for. And I am grateful to them. Thanks guys!
I'm sorry I had to write this post. I didn’t plan, but I saw some people like Roberto’s post. They too can follow Roberto calmly. It was really just so much for me to let go of my nervousness. I still have a lot to do here. And I want to make it all happen.
Thank you Roberto, you have been my biggest fan forever.