BK186
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filochard
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Instead of writing this, you could have spent the same amount of time checking the Patreon and have your answer
BK186
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zelpin990
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The question is which version? Renpy or the one using the new engine(debug build). Lots of content is missing on that version which was found in the renpy one and vise cersa.
The author is pointing to use of Subscribestar not Patreon, noone seems to respond on discord as well, so I can understand why people are complaining about the abaddoned tag.
Having said that, the game has/had great potential to became a nice/playable game.
Exactly. I've had the opinion that if the bugs were fixed and the insane amount of grinding was dropped, this would be one of the top games.
He should just take all of the renders he has, drop the sandbox, and adapt the story to renpy. Then release an update every quarter. He would make an absolute killing if he did that.
Hell, he doesnt even need to make it a pure vn. People complain about the sandbox, but despite that - people are still playing. What's REALLY killing is updates with little to no content, him spending time on these rpg-ish elements like cooking and fishing.
All he has to do is make some new progression for melissa, mina, perhaps the daughters, and people will be all over it.
All he has to do is make some new progression for melissa, mina, perhaps the daughters, and people will be all over it.
BK186
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I have a lot of respect for what he's trying to do. He doesn't want to make a simple game, so he has to deal with a lot of details. I guess he doesn't prefer this program because of some restrictive features of Renply. And maybe he doesn't want to throw all his hard work in the trash.
The dev team is a sandwich short of picknick IMO. I subbed for a few months back a year or so ago, and was on their Discord for a long while after that. I complained about the grind and the crap random event generator, despite jumping all the hoops to trigger the next event, it could still take months of game time or just a few days to pass by before the event decides to trigger, I was booted from their channel for it. It's as if they think that's all people that play the game want, is to grind making cookies and selling crap from a food cart, story and content is a distant second place for them.
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Not surprised by your experience. As has been discussed here ad nauseum, the #1 problem with this project is the arrogance of the creator. No doubt--we all can see--the potential for the project. It is unlike all the mediocre refuse that this site has in abundance. But instead of allowing the story to blossom and stand on its own, there appears to be this misplaced desire to make a fortune on it. It's coded to lock out non-payers from the get-go when all he needs to do is release the story. The story will in time generate the $$. Establish the project, get it going, build on it and it will make $$. Very few of these games make lots of money, but when they do it's because the story and the positivity of the dev make it so.
But....here we sit.
The game is essentially abandoned at this point. I think you're right on the dev model and that he thought he was going to make this grind game and release it to Steam and make tons of money. But the last launch was a complete failure when 7 months ago, so the dev is now back to developing Karma, which no one wants.
To the dev: JUST GIVE US THE WINTER WARMTH STORY WITH NO SANDBOX. YOU WILL MAKE SO MUCH MONEY IF YOU JUST DO THE STORY.
I followed this game for years through the endless development hurdles and remakes. But I've finally accepted that we've likely hit a wall.
zelpin990
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Maybe the owner of the project decided to get some mentorship from Chris Roberts or joined StarCitizen. They committed to finish the game in another platform (for obvious honorable reasons/vision) and they sucked pretty bad at coding for it.
Being late in this game, I regretted subscribbing after enjoying the demo as the only playable binary was the older working renpy version. Sorry for the honest indie devs, but its easier to go for a demo and buy from steam/itchi/whatever-platform and get a refund if the game/promise is a scam, rather than patreon/subscribestar because many devs decided to turn it from a support to a simp platform.
Being late in this game, I regretted subscribbing after enjoying the demo as the only playable binary was the older working renpy version. Sorry for the honest indie devs, but its easier to go for a demo and buy from steam/itchi/whatever-platform and get a refund if the game/promise is a scam, rather than patreon/subscribestar because many devs decided to turn it from a support to a simp platform.
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ART2024
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Well, what can I say.... in februry, Dev said march 100%..... now its july, soo I lost hope... if he does come up with an update, it better have a lot of content to please us all 
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"We are live from the Porn Dome for a generational event. We're John and Chris, your favorite announcer crew. Chris, what can you tell me about what's going to happen?"
"Thanks, John. We're here to witness the development of a super promising game called Winter Warmth. It has great models, good plot, enough technical complexity to make for memorable and diverse playthroughs. It has been received with flying colors by the fans and now all he has to do is walk down Plot Avenue in a straight line. It's foolproof. In fact, I just looked at the bookies and they give him only a 2% chance of failure. This is incredible, John. This could be one for the ages."
"I hear ya, but don't count your chickens just yet, Chris. A lot can happen. Speaking of, we see someone stepping up. It's PowerPlower! We saw him warming up on the sidelines. He doesn't waste any time and sets off for the... wait... he's going for the Gameplay Beam. Why?? That's not even a part of the requirements! Does he not realize that- OH MY GOD!"
"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS INCREDIBLE! POWERPLOWER SMASHED HIS FACE ON THE GAMEPLAY BEAM AFTER ATTEMPTING THE QUADRUPLE GRIND SOMERSAULT! FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER! THE JUDGES ARE NOT IMPRESSED!"
"Chris, I think I see his teeth on the floor there. Good God, what a show! He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory like no one I have ever seen. This will go down in history books as a legendary showing of incompetence. Thank you all for tuning in. Let's let the medics do their thing now. And remember: Karma is a bitch."
"Thanks, John. We're here to witness the development of a super promising game called Winter Warmth. It has great models, good plot, enough technical complexity to make for memorable and diverse playthroughs. It has been received with flying colors by the fans and now all he has to do is walk down Plot Avenue in a straight line. It's foolproof. In fact, I just looked at the bookies and they give him only a 2% chance of failure. This is incredible, John. This could be one for the ages."
"I hear ya, but don't count your chickens just yet, Chris. A lot can happen. Speaking of, we see someone stepping up. It's PowerPlower! We saw him warming up on the sidelines. He doesn't waste any time and sets off for the... wait... he's going for the Gameplay Beam. Why?? That's not even a part of the requirements! Does he not realize that- OH MY GOD!"
"LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS INCREDIBLE! POWERPLOWER SMASHED HIS FACE ON THE GAMEPLAY BEAM AFTER ATTEMPTING THE QUADRUPLE GRIND SOMERSAULT! FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER! THE JUDGES ARE NOT IMPRESSED!"
"Chris, I think I see his teeth on the floor there. Good God, what a show! He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory like no one I have ever seen. This will go down in history books as a legendary showing of incompetence. Thank you all for tuning in. Let's let the medics do their thing now. And remember: Karma is a bitch."
so 7 months of nothing and the dev isn't even actively working on the game (via discord)... abandoned tag?