VN Ren'Py Abandoned Witch Hunter Trainer [Winter Special] [Team Borsch]

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mr.goodkat said:
And why the hell do you make complex gameplay logic that needs to be tested and debugged and takes a lot of development time because of this, in a porn game? We don't need fucking mazes and puzzles. We just need an interesting text story and hot pictures with a bit of animation. Kojima my ass.
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Yeah, I totally hate it when porn games try to be games. (-sarcasm-)

Some do it poorly and it's just tedious and annoying, other ones combine them in an enjoyable way, then you have the games where they keep the gameplay and porn content completely separate. There's plenty of visual novel porn stories coming out left and right though. We have no shortage of those to be sure.

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Disclaimer: No, I'm not defending Team Borsch, I think they are garbage and borderline fraudsters.
 
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LowLevelLesser said:
Yeah, I totally hate it when porn games try to be games.
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This but unironically. I have never played a porn game that had fun gameplay, it's always just a waste of time, likely added because the dev feels insecure about making a VN. I'm here to fap, if I want gameplay I have hundreds of good games to choose from. At least with some basic Ren'py knowledge it's easy to bypass the shitty minigames, thank fuck most porn devs don't use Unity.
 
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This but unironically. I have never played a porn game that had fun gameplay, it's always just a waste of time, likely added because the dev feels insecure about making a VN. I'm here to fap, if I want gameplay I have hundreds of good games to choose from. At least with some basic Ren'py knowledge it's easy to bypass the shitty minigames, thank fuck most porn devs don't use Unity.
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Well thankfully for me, I've played a dozen or so that were actually good to the point I could play them without the porn entirely (though I definitely liked the porn being there). To each their own but I just think it's shitty when people try to actively discourage devs from trying to make their game more than just a vehicle for masturbation material.

Here's a list:
VenusBlood (series)
Rance (series)
Evenicle 1&2
Dungeon Town
Dohna Dohna
Castle Evil
Lillian's Adventure
Dancing Reaper
Dreamcutter
Crisis Point Extinction
Future Fragments
The Tower of Succubus
Under Contract
Slime Girl Smoothies
Demon Sword Incubus
Forbidden Book

There's also a pornographic castlevania-like series with "Midnight Castle Succubus DX" and "Castle in the Clouds DX" that I haven't gotten around to playing yet but they seem pretty good to me. I bought the "Re;Lord" games a long time ago but haven't played them yet either. I'll also eventually check out "Shady Lewd Kart" and might buy it on sale if it's good.

...and this is just a list of 2D games (besides Demon Sword Incubus; I don't count Under Contract). I could make a small list of good 3D action-focused games as well but I've posted enough for my point.
 
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Signs of life? Blimey!

But looks like the content is done in a couple of minutes as always, lmao. Still, gonna give it a go and have a laugh i reckon.
 
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Gnodab said:
But looks like the content is done in a couple of minutes as always, lmao. Still, gonna give it a go and have a laugh i reckon.
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well yes if does bare minimum and skips days when jack isn't active.
 
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magistrate said:
This but unironically. I have never played a porn game that had fun gameplay, it's always just a waste of time, likely added because the dev feels insecure about making a VN. I'm here to fap, if I want gameplay I have hundreds of good games to choose from. At least with some basic Ren'py knowledge it's easy to bypass the shitty minigames, thank fuck most porn devs don't use Unity.
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Go try out Anthophobia or SiniSistar both are more extreme but have very solid gameplay where I at least had fun just playing them
 
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And they just don't bother to fix it for years.



No, they just don't give a fuck anymore

Just compare these
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and this
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I mean, the old ones (and they are YEARS old) are neat and consistent.
And the latest is sloppy as fuck. If you take a closer look you'll see:
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They can't keep colors in borders, (like they made their 3 year old cousin to color it for them) or stop line at intersection (or clean it after), or draw a round ball. But it's not a question of "can" or "can not" actually.
It's a question of attitude and don't give a fuck.

And it's static pictures, if you take a closer look to animation frames, your eyes will bleed.

P.s. To be honest, my drawings are sloppy too. But they are sketches. When it comes to lining stage I take my time to clean them properly.

Obviously, they are tired of this game, but don't want to quit cause it's easy stable regular donations.
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how you get that secan ? in my game jack always leave after choosing stay second time .
 
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Somehow i was still let down, even after expecting nothing.

The new scene with jack has an garbage camera view, the one with the blonde is pretty shite as well. Whack.

Off to wait another eternity for a joke of an update i guess.
 
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With "€1,672/month"? Here you couldn't hire even a person who asks minimum wage with that. (Of course half of the population of this planet make 2€ per day or less but still.)
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So count it at 1672 euros a month, and count how long the project has been running and how much money they've raised so far. What does the minimum wage have to do with it? What are you talking about? Freelancers do a huge amount of custom work for little money. If you take the same developers from Russia, like Team Borsch,The average cost of similar art is 40€, 1 second of animation is 9€ (9€*30sec Animation = 270€), and the game code and background sprites cost 300€. Open-source sounds are free (no licenses), as is music. A small script to order for 150 euros, depending on the amount of work (you can write it yourself). And that on average, for one update with one scene, we spend about 760 euros if you order it from the same Developers and freelancers from Russia. And we still have 912€ for another scene 912€ - 760€ = 152€ for unreasonable expenses.
 
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Bandi255 said:
So count it at 1672 euros a month, and count how long the project has been running and how much money they've raised so far. What does the minimum wage have to do with it? What are you talking about? Freelancers do a huge amount of custom work for little money. If you take the same developers from Russia, like Team Borsch,The average cost of similar art is 40€, 1 second of animation is 9€ (9€*30sec Animation = 270€), and the game code and background sprites cost 300€. Open-source sounds are free (no licenses), as is music. A small script to order for 150 euros, depending on the amount of work (you can write it yourself). And that on average, for one update with one scene, we spend about 760 euros if you order it from the same Developers and freelancers from Russia. And we still have 912€ for another scene 912€ - 760€ = 152€ for unreasonable expenses.
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Not in the field and don't really care but where are these numbers coming from ? 270 for 30 seconds? Who the f#@k gets 32,400 an hour?
 
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Jesus christ it's the 90's all over again!
Apparently locked myself into a bad ending (Crimson Curse) and the only way out is to drop 4 hours of progress... I ain't doing that, guess that's my canonical ending now.
 
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