VN Ren'Py Abandoned Witch Hunter Trainer [Winter Special] [Team Borsch]

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horatz

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AI is already pretty good with stories, or at least it can imitate certain styles, and is decent enough that the only things that need to be solved are well-programmed, replayable mechanics and consistent art.
 

Vabain

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Hello everyone. I translated the game completely into Russian, if anyone is interested, here is the link -
 
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yoshemitsu

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Всем привет. Перевел игру полностью на русский если кому интересно вот ссылка -
Wasn't there Russian language in the game?
 
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xorcist

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Their problem is not in programming, their problem is in storyline writing. Noone AI can solve this sad one, i suppose.
Man, you are so wrong.
AI can mimic all those characters if you feed it the previous dialogues.
When it understands the characters' vibes it will then propose 3-4 routes you want the story to go. And bam... you get the rest of the future game in minutes.

Same goes with the art style. Although it needs careful prompting.
 

Sergiv2001

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Wasn't there Russian language in the game?
The joke is that the game was initially written on russian and only then translated to english. And you are totally right - the first releases of the game had the option on start page - to select russian or english version.
 

torohror

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AI is nothing more than programmable thing. We don't know how the man think, so how can we programm the AI to think? As I know, for now AI can only calculate the weight coefficients for some or another models. I hardly suppose that it is enought for scenarios writing. In another case it will be nothing more than classical story about one thousand monkeys typing letters from the books they are reading and dreaming to write "War And Society" (yes, the inicial russian name of this novel was not "War and Peace" but "War and Society" :)).
You really don’t know how a living being can produce thoughts? The US school system really must be worse than I thought.


Scientists do understand how the process of thinking works – and it's actually pretty straightforward:


Your brain constantly receives input – everything you see, hear, smell, and touch. That’s the raw data.
This data is filtered based on your past experiences, your current emotional state, and your expectations.


When you see something new, for example, your brain tries to match it to known patterns – things you've seen before, things you understand.
Then it makes predictions: What could happen if I do this or that?
Then it checks for threats or relevance.
This is where intuition and gut feeling kick in.


Once your unconscious brain decides something might be worth your attention, it passes it to your conscious mind – the part of you that's actively thinking about this sentence right now.


That’s when you go: Wait, what does this mean? Should I care?


And then you start forming an internal dialogue – maybe with words, maybe with mental images. People think in different ways, but the underlying process follows clear patterns.



And no – AI isn’t just a bunch of monkeys hitting keys hoping to write War and Peace.
That’s a tired metaphor that completely misunderstands how large language models work.
They don't generate random letters. They generate structured, meaningful output based on patterns learned from massive datasets.
It’s not magic – and it’s definitely not monkey business.
 

malcolmalbie

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They don't generate random letters. They generate structured, meaningful output based on patterns learned from massive datasets.
It’s not magic – and it’s definitely not monkey business.
It's more akin to a monkey assembling shapes into a similar order to what it has seen before, based on what shapes have already been placed down. What we see as "structured, meaningful output" is just a bunch of numbers (the tokens) that it "knows" to assemble into a pattern.
 

Sergiv2001

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It's more akin to a monkey assembling shapes into a similar order to what it has seen before, based on what shapes have already been placed down. What we see as "structured, meaningful output" is just a bunch of numbers (the tokens) that it "knows" to assemble into a pattern.
Totally agree. Twenty years ago I wrote the dissertation of AI using in science. In that years it was not more than package of aim functions and algoritmes for calculating the weight coefficients with choosing the best coefficient. It seems for me that for last twenty years nothing changes exept of coefficients calculating speed.
 

Sergiv2001

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You really don’t know how a living being can produce thoughts? The US school system really must be worse than I thought.


Scientists do understand how the process of thinking works – and it's actually pretty straightforward:


Your brain constantly receives input – everything you see, hear, smell, and touch. That’s the raw data.
This data is filtered based on your past experiences, your current emotional state, and your expectations.


When you see something new, for example, your brain tries to match it to known patterns – things you've seen before, things you understand.
Then it makes predictions: What could happen if I do this or that?
Then it checks for threats or relevance.
This is where intuition and gut feeling kick in.


Once your unconscious brain decides something might be worth your attention, it passes it to your conscious mind – the part of you that's actively thinking about this sentence right now.


That’s when you go: Wait, what does this mean? Should I care?


And then you start forming an internal dialogue – maybe with words, maybe with mental images. People think in different ways, but the underlying process follows clear patterns.



And no – AI isn’t just a bunch of monkeys hitting keys hoping to write War and Peace.
That’s a tired metaphor that completely misunderstands how large language models work.
They don't generate random letters. They generate structured, meaningful output based on patterns learned from massive datasets.
It’s not magic – and it’s definitely not monkey business.
You said the magic word "intuition" that nulls all of your suggestions. Intuition, insticts, prophecy - all of that is the kind of thinking and all of that can't be described in the model that your put in your post.
 

Sergiv2001

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Au contraire, mon ami =)

Check this out

Excuse moi, je non parole français. S'est les vie, je parole anglais :)

As for the story that your kindly describe, for me it's less than garbage because of the absolutely stupid mistake: Jack is the girl and must be described as she not as he.
 

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I was wandering with AI programming abilities progressing so fast in last few moths, how long it will take before someone will reverse engineer what was done, fixing the code and develops it further with other model to train for art style. With authors speed and approach, they may not realize it yet, but they are playing dangerous game and can happen they become obsolete.
Sooner or later it will be possible for sure. But there is a problem - if you are going to do that, you need to use other people's intellectual property, i.e. Team Borsch's one. If it is a fan mod that is disributed for free, that's all right. But if you want to make money from that mod, there can be problems, especially if Team Borsch will be against it. And I'm pretty sure they are.
And there are few people who want to develop adult games for free, especially among those who have needed skills, AI or not. Most of those people prefer to develop their own games.
 

Sergiv2001

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Sooner or later it will be possible for sure. But there is a problem - if you are going to do that, you need to use other people's intellectual property, i.e. Team Borsch's one. If it is a fan mod that is disributed for free, that's all right. But if you want to make money from that mod, there can be problems, especially if Team Borsch will be against it. And I'm pretty sure they are.
And there are few people who want to develop adult games for free, especially among those who have needed skills, AI or not. Most of those people prefer to develop their own games.
Highly likely they can't be against it. Supposedly they are placed in the russian law space, in which porn games delelopment for sale is prohibited by law. If you are developer in Russia, you can make porn game, you can play the porn game for yourself, but you haven't right to sale it or to delelop it to another people.
 

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Highly likely they can't be against it. Supposedly they are placed in the russian law space, in which porn games delelopment for sale is prohibited by law. If you are developer in Russia, you can make porn game, you can play the porn game for yourself, but you haven't right to sale it or to delelop it to another people.
I'm not talking about Team Borsch suing anyone. They'll just complain to Patreon, Boosty or whatever. Probably it will be enough to ban your account there if you try to make money from your mod. Also, people in general don't like such things. They simply won't support you if you steal Team Borsch's stuff (or just start developing your mod against their wish). You can check a few threads here with such "half-stolen" games - people are very whiny about them.
 
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