Feru452ax

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Question. I am in the part where you have to decide to tell Elyon the truth or not. But then I got 2 ending that I am not sure if thats the end of the game or just bad endings (they look bad).
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Is that the end of the game or there is a route where I can continue playing?
One of the first choices in the game is to not kill Elyon parents. If you choose to kill, you'll always get a game over hours down the game, because the game don't let you tell the truth to Elyon that you killed her parents, and lying trigger the game over, so good luck replaying all again.


One of the most pathetic choices I saw a dev do, even if the game is AMAZING, this design is just retarded
 
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fidgetrimer

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is the mc doing the ntr?
and how heavy the ntr in this game?
MC is screwing one of the girl's mom who is married (two H-scenes I believe).
There's a scene with another mom, while magically disguised as her husband.
One of the girls used to have a boyfriend.

I think that's about it for now.
 

Troy Harder

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One of the first choices in the game is to not kill Elyon parents. If you choose to kill, you'll always get a game over hours down the game, because the game don't let you tell the truth to Elyon that you killed her parents, and lying trigger the game over, so good luck replaying all again.


One of the most pathetic choices I saw a dev do, even if the game is AMAZING, this design is just retarded
It’s not exactly like that. In the Elyon update, there are 10 choices, and from what I understand, you need to make the 'right' choice in at least 8 out of 10 cases. In other words, you’re allowed to lie to her or treat her poorly twice without getting a bad ending.
For example, putting on the collar and bunny tail buttplug still won’t trigger the bad ending.
If you killed Elyon’s parents, though, then you only have one 'wrong' choice left.
And — I’m not sure if it’s still the case in version 0.25, but in 0.24, if you select 'New Game' and start from version 0.24, the game asks whether Elyon’s parents are alive or not.
That said, the game is still totally playable even if you skip that part.
 
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Lebeaubrun

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can you provide art where you saw hints of redrawing AI art, because I didn't notice it anywhere
Here, Notice the posters at the back? those are 100% ai now look at Susan faces, Will faces that suddenly has red lips for the first and only time and that teacher, they all look a lot like the faces on those posters. I dont know how much he uses but its clear he at least use some. all those faces have some of the default ai girl face vibe.

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Stupidkiller

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Here, Notice the posters at the back? those are 100% ai now look at Susan faces, Will faces that suddenly has red lips for the first and only time and that teacher, they all look a lot like the faces on those posters. I dont know how much he uses but its clear he at least use some. all those faces have some of the default ai girl face vibe.

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The main CG having them would be pretty bad, but on the other hand the unimportant posters in the background I couldn't give less of a fuck about.
 
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Here, Notice the posters at the back? those are 100% ai now look at Susan faces, Will faces that suddenly has red lips for the first and only time and that teacher, they all look a lot like the faces on those posters. I dont know how much he uses but its clear he at least use some. all those faces have some of the default ai girl face vibe.

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I think will have Red lips everytime she gets in her guardian form so i guess thats not the case, the posters were something i noticed too but as someone said up in the convo "i dont give a fuck".
 

DemiMaximoff

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What you guys are seeing doesn't necessarily have to be all AI. It's simply the devs cutting corners. There are a hundreds of lazy techniques that have always shown up when artists stopped caring, AI being one of them. What you're seeing here most likely is them drawing a "base character" and modifying it to turn it into a specific character.
 

shazamanone

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Sep 2, 2020
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hi guys
i have weird bug
this error appears When I try to rewind (or loading old save) to any moment for changing decisions.
Also, any loading save takes me back to the moment when Cedric comes to his senses in book shop.
(sorry for my english)


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Troy Harder

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Here, Notice the posters at the back? those are 100% ai now look at Susan faces, Will faces that suddenly has red lips for the first and only time and that teacher, they all look a lot like the faces on those posters. I dont know how much he uses but its clear he at least use some. all those faces have some of the default ai girl face vibe.

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I got curious and decided to check for AI use in the game myself. And well, in a way, you're right. Some of the backgrounds are indeed AI-generated — specifically the ones you pointed out, along with a few others.
That said, about 90–95% of the backgrounds are hand-drawn. In fact, in the latest update (version 0.24), the new backgrounds are packed with tiny details that would be nearly impossible to achieve with AI.
More importantly, AI wasn’t used for the characters at all. Actually, your example about Will’s lips kind of proves the opposite. In the original cartoon, the witches' lips are always more prominent when they're in their magical forms (I’ll include reference images below).
As for Susan and the woman on the magazine cover — yeah, I noticed that too. Full lips seem to be a thing for MILF characters. You can see it with Anna and Joan Lin as well.
Still, you're right about the backgrounds you posted — they were made with AI. I dug through the Patreon page, since they often share WIP images, lineart, and stuff like that, and I noticed a pattern: the character scenes are usually drawn first, with no background at all.
My guess is that they draw the character art first and sometimes add an AI background later if they’re running short on time. They’ve always had issues meeting deadlines, and it seems like when they’re pressed, they fall back on AI for the backgrounds.
Does this game deserve an "AI CG" tag because of that? Hell no. 99% of the content is still hand-made. Throwing it into the same pile as AI trash just because a few backgrounds were rushed with AI would be incredibly unfair.
Yeah, a few backgrounds were AI-generated. And honestly, I think that’s a real tragedy... for the people who downloaded this game just to jerk off to high-quality backgrounds.

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Boris 1

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Probably somebody else asked this already, but when I try to load a save file, it always start at the begining of the content for update 0.23. Can somebody help? Thank you.
 
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Whoa, haven't touched this game since v18.0 and I'm frankly flabbergasted by how much content was added. Not only that the whole story and game play moved in a completely different direction. I always thought that it's going to be abandoned like many other trainers but I'm glad to be proven wrong. The only thing worrying me now is that I feel like some of the pictures were AI generated and that's a slippery slope that doomed a lot of projects for me.
 
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Lebeaubrun

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I got curious and decided to check for AI use in the game myself.
Im fairly certains some of the faces use ai, but if im wrong then I agree, ai background doesnt matter much to me either. For Susan and the teacher its not the lips that are a giveaway, more the overall shape of the face, the big forehead and more generic eye shape, the tits also look different than before its subtle changes but it gives me an uncanny feeling personally.
 
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