Ren'Py Witch Hunter [v0.25 EX] [Lazy tarts]

[Deleted member 3582121]

I even pm him a bit in early 2018,I intended to 'create'the plot myself,but gave up, thinking how foolish I might look,also he seemed to have everything under control at the time.My vision was more porn+romance combined,anyway to be as close to Japan's games and H novels.And individual endings for each character,many routes but also some common branch,maybe even some end/ings where Cedric became king of Meridian,good or evil,or ero-advisor of queen Elyon.

But I wasnt patronizing the game,so my ideas would have been 'killed on the spot' anyhow,even if they could've been free,just to improve a game with big potential.Not to mention too much coding and work>not a chance to be chosen.

Now its all too late for anything.

 

[Lebeaubrun]

AND he was the one sent because he claims to be good at seduction.
Not much seduction being seen, first sign of trouble is blackmail time.

yea def the weakness of the game, I dont enjoy blackmail has a first recourse it feels so cheap and involve no chemistry between characters. I guess the Elyon storyline does involve romance somewhat..

 

[Nizzquizz]

After all the rewrites, how much Elyon content is even left? Didn't follow the game too closely, but from what I've seen and remember, the rewrites and constantly thrown in side characters have nipped any progress on the Elyon front pretty much in the bud..

 

[YoraeRasante]

I sometimes wonder if I started my own version following this original story idea if it would be too much... I'm not sure of the word, asshole-ism?

I mean, the main story is being gutted more and more in favor of the mc being more sympatetic and the sidestories seem to be rushed, but the original story idea did have some potential and I wanted to see how it could be developed...

 

[Zeroa7m]

Hooray, finally an update.

 

[GraveXMachina]

Man, now I wanna play as a fabulous and evil villain who's so hot and smooth that even the good guys are falling for him.

Someone like Zarbon form DBZ abridged.

OOOOR...how about a crazy villain who's evil and sinister but at the same kind of a goofball who wins over the ladies by being a lovable badboy?
Like Jack Spicer from Xiaolin showdown?

I mean, if the direction it is going with trying to make him more sympathetic, gonna be real hard after all the blackmail and shit.

Unless it's trying to go for a redemption llike story?
If so, then some consequences gonna have to happen in order to be believable.

 

[Deleted member 3582121]

The only q is>has the dev never played any VN before?Didnt he saw how are they done?The way current project is moving seems weird,at least.Kattlarv mentioned most of the obvious holes,thing is the game didnt 'played' in a proper way,the stories seemed more or less unrelated,maybe its a good thing I wont be able to play it from now on,the 18+ cg kept us gamed until now anyway.

Maybe dev cant make game in a proper way,its 1 thing being a limited team and other story with a professional company with more ppl&talent.

 

[YoraeRasante]

OOOOR...how about a crazy villain who's evil and sinister but at the same kind of a goofball who wins over the ladies by being a lovable badboy?
Like Jack Spicer from Xiaolin showdown?

I mean, if the direction it is going with trying to make him more sympathetic, gonna be real hard after all the blackmail and shit.

Unless it's trying to go for a redemption llike story?
If so, then some consequences gonna have to happen in order to be believable.

The problem here is that it is inconsistent with the other girls... Sympathetic for Elyon, and asshole for the others.

Asshole we can use as a power fantasy.
Sympathetic we can actually root for, hoping for either redemption, or that he ends up taking over the evil side with the willing help of his conquests, maybe both and he becomes the "better evil". Maybe even both sides were bad all along, but the good guys kept it hidden better, and he ends up becoming the balanced, corrupt but good at managing everything so the people don't have any real complaints.

What we have here... is neither.
Be unrepentant evil, be sympathetic, be trying to be evil but mess up things, but be consistent.
Or at least show us how he changes. Be consistent in the changes.

The only q is>has the dev never played any VN before?Didnt he saw how are they done?The way current project is moving seems weird,at least.Kattlarv mentioned most of the obvious holes,thing is the game didnt 'played' in a proper way,the stories seemed more or less unrelated,maybe its a good thing I wont be able to play it from now on,the 18+ cg kept us gamed until now anyway.

Maybe dev cant make game in a proper way,its 1 thing being a limited team and other story with a professional company with more ppl&talent.

Yeah, it seems to me he had good art, but not so good at actual writing. Unfortunatly the second part is kinda important in a visual novel.
Even Rogue-like Evolution is better at it. At least it has good sex descriptions, and all it has are the mechanics and art - actual story was said long ago that it will be added in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[GraveXMachina]

Yeah, it seems to me he had good art, but not so good at actual writing. Unfortunatly the second part is kinda important in a visual novel.
Even Rogue-like Evolution is better at it. At least it has good sex descriptions, and all it has are the mechanics and art - actual story was said long ago that it will be added in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.

Feel like he should team up with some RPG Maker devs, a lot of them make pretty damn good stories.

 

[Zanthrophene]

Could someone upload a save which is about 3/4th in? Or atleast half way, haven't got the saves on the device I'm currently at. Would be appreciated!

 

[Deleted member 3582121]

Its a bit sad,because a game with big potential ended like this.Maybe if dev wasnt nr1,or a random guy with more insight were there to plan all up,game could've been in better shape.

Even after a crushing defeat,I want to believe there are things to be learned,or good things to emerge after it.I think this is the case with this game,all this years but also last update.

There are other projects,in both real life,also virtual,that could need my focus.This will be my last post here.And no,this wasnt my 1st account,its my 6th,many years with some complex games and even more complex plan.

Over and out.

 

[Kattlarv]

2-about gary stu setup-I just think many H players kinda expected this,a strong MC and the girls to get fucked up big,quick and in hot positions>kinda messed in the ero-play but oh well.

Yeah. But it clashes to me when you can get beat up and get game over from random goon #43.
And, unless I recall wrong: You cannot lose a single fight to any of the girls. (If you do, all you get is basically. "Bad Cedric! Go home and come back to try and rape me later!") Nor can any of your plans with the girls fail. Only plans with random males and monsters.

Where? I dont see those 180 changes,

To keep it short: Blunk.

AND he was the one sent because he claims to be good at seduction.
Not much seduction being seen, first sign of trouble is blackmail time.

Yeah. This too xD
"We will send out: The master of seduction!"
*5 minutes later*
"I like you... can I suck you dick?"
- "Suck my dick or I will murder and eat your parents you whore!"
So yeah, I did expect a bit better xP He is the opposite of this "professional" advertised at the start.
Like, he's a professional womanizer that can't even make women cum? xP
(Not to mention as said: Most of his blackmail is pure garbage that would get HIM in trouble.)

 

[lar636]

Wow, this "update" (I thought it was a bit short by the way),

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Still, I liked this update and the continuity of this story, I want to see a lot more, Ok Dev.

 

[beldr]

Yeah. This too xD
"We will send out: The master of seduction!"
*5 minutes later*
"I like you... can I suck you dick?"
- "Suck my dick or I will murder and eat your parents you whore!"
So yeah, I did expect a bit better xP He is the opposite of this "professional" advertised at the start.
Like, he's a professional womanizer that can't even make women cum? xP
(Not to mention as said: Most of his blackmail is pure garbage that would get HIM in trouble.)

There is always the option that he was never truly a master of seduction and he only got girls because his power and was just bragging.

 

[Pudthumper]

How do you keep from getting robbed? I pull the gun on the dude and he goes, but the money goes with him.

 

[Bask-0a]

God damn, the Will + Cedric scene at the cabin was HOT AS FUCK
Not sex just a pure girl taking a dick between her legs, Oh that was OMG, somethings those subtle things are hotter than pure sex...
Sigh alas still the update feels short and I just read someone that not many updates are left? TT_TT I'll cry.

 

[lar636]

God damn, the Will + Cedric scene at the cabin was HOT AS FUCK
Not sex just a pure girl taking a dick between her legs, Oh that was OMG, somethings those subtle things are hotter than pure sex...
Sigh alas still the update feels short and I just read someone that not many updates are left? TT_TT I'll cry.

I also really liked these scenes together "Will + Cedric", as I mentioned in my message above.

 

[iwilljack]

does someone have a save before the update my previous saves aren't working

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Both parts were scrapped, and people say it must be to make the MC more sympathetic. Which does not work as heacts like that with every other character.

sad part is every mc doesn't need to be freaking sympathetic. I really liked the blackmail/force break up routes and as you said it makes little sense when you did similar things to other characters like irna who gets blackemailed into sucking dick and borderline ntr

 

[maLikiz]

How do you keep from getting robbed? I pull the gun on the dude and he goes, but the money goes with him.

Click on the earned money to put it in the cash register