Played through the old Luna content of 1.39.4 (mega link above)
It's truly a shame that this large-enough content was replaced with other unnecessary new CGI scenes later until v1.46.1.
There were only some minor glitches and inconsistencies like: missing chibit here, talking about going to class at late-night there, and having sex with Luna and Granger together although still on Hermi’s favour level 5 where you can't have sex with Granger alone yet.
The submissive route is surely a disappointing dead-end, but the dominant and normal route has enough excitement and good repeatable favors in the end, unlike what v46 still only has to offer for a while now.
The best scenes of these games are usually the three- and moresomes when there is more interaction between persons, might it be jealous quarrel or voluptuous tension building.
I only hope that the upcoming Tonks content won't disappoint, as Tonks is clearly the best partner-in-crime for such scenes, just like current Cho's Body Inspection 3 with the possible double facial as in v46. It's a pity you can't repeat that when reaching Insp. 4 with the ultra-boring talk about Doppler/Succubus stuff in the end. Blue-balls³...
It's truly a shame that this large-enough content was replaced with other unnecessary new CGI scenes later until v1.46.1.
There were only some minor glitches and inconsistencies like: missing chibit here, talking about going to class at late-night there, and having sex with Luna and Granger together although still on Hermi’s favour level 5 where you can't have sex with Granger alone yet.
The submissive route is surely a disappointing dead-end, but the dominant and normal route has enough excitement and good repeatable favors in the end, unlike what v46 still only has to offer for a while now.
The best scenes of these games are usually the three- and moresomes when there is more interaction between persons, might it be jealous quarrel or voluptuous tension building.
I only hope that the upcoming Tonks content won't disappoint, as Tonks is clearly the best partner-in-crime for such scenes, just like current Cho's Body Inspection 3 with the possible double facial as in v46. It's a pity you can't repeat that when reaching Insp. 4 with the ultra-boring talk about Doppler/Succubus stuff in the end. Blue-balls³...
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It is a shame that this content was not repurposed as mirror side story.
anubis1970
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Personally I'd like to see them bring it back using Pansy Parkinson in stead of Luna; once they've finished fleshing out the girls in the game first.
I'd also love to see them add Ginny too.
I imagine this has been answered elsewhere so my apologies for a repeat question, but I've tried searching and haven't found anything helpful- how do I unlock girls beyond Hermione and Tonks? I'm at favour level 5 going on 6 with Hermione and haven't seen mention of any other characters. After this many hours of playing I figure I'm doing something wrong or missing something, so any help would be appreciated.
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luna just comes to genie's office after hermione has high enuf stats and same for cho, for susan and astoria genie needs to send hermione to search them.
v1.46.1:
Cho should appear on Granger Fav L2 on her own. If not then try talking/hanging to/with Snape and Tonks. I can't remember anymore exactly but will make better notes with the next Silver update when restarting.
Tonks mentions Susan Bones on Granger L3 during a let’s hang event. After Susan appears in the office, Tonks will sooner or later come to the office alerted about a forbidden spell usage. Doesn’t matter for this event chain, but you can demand something for helping her. Afterwards, talk to Snape and Granger by Talk to ask him/her to help Tonks. This will soon trigger Granger bringing Astoria to the office. Afterwards hang with Tonks again for a talk what to do with Astoria.
Luna should appear on Granger Fav L3 on her own.
Generally, if you or someone else feel something is missing then try Talk option or Let’s Hang on Snape and Tonks, sometimes talk to Hermione like with Astoria.
If someone else has trouble getting Granger to Fav L3 then get caught jerking in front of her. That's a not so obvious trigger for that.
Thanks for the detailed response. Dunno what's wrong, but nothing significant is happening during my talks or hangouts with Snape and Tonks- all I'm getting are "You spend the afternoon/evening hanging out, your relationship has improved" messages.
ETA- I notice that I have to manually increase Hermione's favor tier every interaction- it isn't a persistent upgrade, and it doesn't get reflected in her character stats screen. Is that a normal mechanic or an indicator something is janky?
I've also got a talent for getting stuck in these games. The triggers in WTS are still somewhat differently than in the original WT, e.g. where you have to ChitChat with Snape for a comment about Granger lessons and then have to wait 7 days until Hermione finally knocks on the door to initiative the favors. Duh...
Below are the favour tier level conditions of Hermione (v1.46.1):
summon.rpy (Hermione)
label update_her_tier:
python:
if states.her.tier == 1 and states.her.level >= 3:
# Trigger: None
her_level_up = 1
elif states.her.tier == 2 and states.her.level >= 9 and states.her.status.voyer == True:
# Trigger: Caught/saw Genie masturbate for the first time.
her_level_up = 2
elif states.her.tier == 3 and states.her.level >= 12 and states.her.status.stripping == True:
# Trigger: After she has stripped completely for Genie.
her_level_up = 3
elif states.her.tier == 4 and states.her.level >= 18 and states.her.ev.give_me_a_handy.cock_kiss == True:
# Trigger: Kissed Genie's dick during HJ favour.
her_level_up = 4
elif states.her.tier == 5 and states.her.level >= 21 and states.her.status.blowjob == True:
# Trigger: First BJ
her_level_up = 5
return
her.tier = Favour Tier of Hermione what you can see in her character overview (heart-icon top right)
Tutoring increases the Tutoring and Whoring (level) stats.
Personal Favors increase the Whoring stat.
Public Favors increase the Whoring and Reputation stats.
As you can see above within the conditions, you have to increase whoring to a certain level and do a specific favor to get a level-up possibility.
Better don't level too quickly as you could possibly miss a certain CGI, in particular with the public requests although it's possible to postpone all the public stuff, although missing CGIs during favor-tiers, after the ingame warning about following the public-route and do only private stuff first before starting the autumn ball. Make a save, check out the private ending, load and do the rest of the public favors to check out the public ending.
About the appearance of the other girls, see the triggers below. I don't want to go into detail with each event for sake of overview.
The game files of the WTS mod are all accessible so you can dig there for info if you have a text-editor capable to read files contents. You only need to remember what has all happened so far. Quests.rpy is basically the mother of all event files.
quests.rpy
#
# CHO CHANG - EVENTS
#
if game.daytime:
if not states.cho.ev.intro.e1_complete and states.her.tier >= 2: (her.tier = Hermione)
# Cho intro
jump cho_intro_E1
#
# ASTORIA GREENGRASS - EVENTS
#
# Astoria events not triggered by a date.
if ag_event_pause == 0:
if game.daytime:
# Introduction
if states.ast.ev.intro.e2_ask_hermione and states.ast.ev.intro.e2_ask_snape and not states.ast.ev.intro.e3_complete:
$ states.ast.ev.intro.e2_complete = True
jump astoria_intro_E3
if states.ton.ev.hangouts.astoria_e1 and not states.ast.ev.intro.e4_complete:
jump astoria_intro_E4
else:
# Introduction
if states.sus.ev.intro.e1_complete and not states.ast.ev.intro.e1_complete:
jump astoria_intro_E1
# LUNA LOVEGOOD - EVENTS
#
if ll_event_pause == 0:
if not states.lun.ev.intro.e1_complete and states.her.tier >= 3:
if not game.daytime:
# Luna barges into your office sleepwalking.
jump luna_intro_E1
If you still can't make any of these girls appear then upload a save game and I check it out, as I like to get smart about all the fussiness of these triggers too for my next WTS playthrough.
Below are the favour tier level conditions of Hermione (v1.46.1):
summon.rpy (Hermione)
label update_her_tier:
python:
if states.her.tier == 1 and states.her.level >= 3:
# Trigger: None
her_level_up = 1
elif states.her.tier == 2 and states.her.level >= 9 and states.her.status.voyer == True:
# Trigger: Caught/saw Genie masturbate for the first time.
her_level_up = 2
elif states.her.tier == 3 and states.her.level >= 12 and states.her.status.stripping == True:
# Trigger: After she has stripped completely for Genie.
her_level_up = 3
elif states.her.tier == 4 and states.her.level >= 18 and states.her.ev.give_me_a_handy.cock_kiss == True:
# Trigger: Kissed Genie's dick during HJ favour.
her_level_up = 4
elif states.her.tier == 5 and states.her.level >= 21 and states.her.status.blowjob == True:
# Trigger: First BJ
her_level_up = 5
return
her.tier = Favour Tier of Hermione what you can see in her character overview (heart-icon top right)
Tutoring increases the Tutoring and Whoring (level) stats.
Personal Favors increase the Whoring stat.
Public Favors increase the Whoring and Reputation stats.
As you can see above within the conditions, you have to increase whoring to a certain level and do a specific favor to get a level-up possibility.
Better don't level too quickly as you could possibly miss a certain CGI, in particular with the public requests although it's possible to postpone all the public stuff, although missing CGIs during favor-tiers, after the ingame warning about following the public-route and do only private stuff first before starting the autumn ball. Make a save, check out the private ending, load and do the rest of the public favors to check out the public ending.
About the appearance of the other girls, see the triggers below. I don't want to go into detail with each event for sake of overview.
The game files of the WTS mod are all accessible so you can dig there for info if you have a text-editor capable to read files contents. You only need to remember what has all happened so far. Quests.rpy is basically the mother of all event files.
quests.rpy
#
# CHO CHANG - EVENTS
#
if game.daytime:
if not states.cho.ev.intro.e1_complete and states.her.tier >= 2: (her.tier = Hermione)
# Cho intro
jump cho_intro_E1
#
# ASTORIA GREENGRASS - EVENTS
#
# Astoria events not triggered by a date.
if ag_event_pause == 0:
if game.daytime:
# Introduction
if states.ast.ev.intro.e2_ask_hermione and states.ast.ev.intro.e2_ask_snape and not states.ast.ev.intro.e3_complete:
$ states.ast.ev.intro.e2_complete = True
jump astoria_intro_E3
if states.ton.ev.hangouts.astoria_e1 and not states.ast.ev.intro.e4_complete:
jump astoria_intro_E4
else:
# Introduction
if states.sus.ev.intro.e1_complete and not states.ast.ev.intro.e1_complete:
jump astoria_intro_E1
# LUNA LOVEGOOD - EVENTS
#
if ll_event_pause == 0:
if not states.lun.ev.intro.e1_complete and states.her.tier >= 3:
if not game.daytime:
# Luna barges into your office sleepwalking.
jump luna_intro_E1
If you still can't make any of these girls appear then upload a save game and I check it out, as I like to get smart about all the fussiness of these triggers too for my next WTS playthrough.
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Turns out it was one of the mods I pulled from the Discord that was messing things up. I didn't look at the code to pinpoint what exactly was going on, but for anybody else that runs into this it was the "Hermione's Desperation" mod that was the culprit- something about it was keeping favour tier upgrades from being registered as a permanent stat increase.
Where do you have this mod from? I find absolutely nothing about it here or by google.
Laritas
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The Hermione's Desperation mod is available on the Silver Studio Games Discord channel. The Discord link can be found in the 1st post
cxx
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there are plenty of mods at devs discord but some aren't compatible with current version and some have bugs.
Good job, fellas. I'm taking note of your comments to improve the game. Sometimes, when you work on a project long enough, everything starts looking obvious, but that may not be the case for the player. Thanks a lot for the feedback.
ThreeTimesTheCharm
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How is the hardcore diff of WTS in the long run?
The Slytherin point gain in the original WT was horrible, that I had to reset the Gryff points twice (~1300/1700) just to mainly do the private route in a sane tempo. Is this similar with WTS HC?
My first WTS playthrough (46.1) was on easy diff with some cheats which I regretted quickly do missing out achievements. Otherwise, there was no real challenge point-wise in comparison to the original game.
I'm going to do normal diff next time without any tricks, but maybe this is still too easy rushing side-characters too quickly through their content. I felt the WTS gifts from the cupboard were way too generous on easy. If there is no automatic mood recovery on HC, maybe this could be balanced right enough.
The Slytherin point gain in the original WT was horrible, that I had to reset the Gryff points twice (~1300/1700) just to mainly do the private route in a sane tempo. Is this similar with WTS HC?
My first WTS playthrough (46.1) was on easy diff with some cheats which I regretted quickly do missing out achievements. Otherwise, there was no real challenge point-wise in comparison to the original game.
I'm going to do normal diff next time without any tricks, but maybe this is still too easy rushing side-characters too quickly through their content. I felt the WTS gifts from the cupboard were way too generous on easy. If there is no automatic mood recovery on HC, maybe this could be balanced right enough.
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Speaking as someone who absolutely hates mindless grind, but also doesn't like when games are too easy, there's a fine line to walk here.
I have implemented progression-based heuristics, rubber banding, and diminishing returns for all random elements of the game to make them more engaging and fair, while avoiding making it too easy.
For example, if Hermione gets too far ahead with house points, other houses will start catching up sooner or later, but your engagement will define how fast it happens, and if any other house takes the lead.
Another example involves item drops. The cupboard is a random item generator, basically, and in games, such mechanics are frowned upon by many devs because they break the in-game economy. To avoid that, I've ensured that item and gold drops use diminishing returns system that (slightly) punishes repetitive actions to encourage you to explore other options of gaining items and gold (there's plenty!).
That said, everything was balanced with normal difficulty mode in mind, and while hardcore difficulty is taken into account, it can be vastly more difficult. I hope sheds some light on at least some of the existing mechanics.
As long as you don't have to wait for weeks until Slyth catches up Gryff, I'm fine. While it was no issue in original WT with favors up to 25-pt range, it got really annoying when you are in the 50-pt range and Sylth compensates only every other day with +17 or something while Gryff also gets its regular pts. The other two houses with their pts haven't been very helpful so far, but I haven't played WT and in partuclar the other diffs of WTS enough to judge that properly.That said, everything was balanced with normal difficulty mode in mind, and while hardcore difficulty is taken into account, it can be vastly more difficult. I hope sheds some light on at least some of the existing mechanics.
I possibly give HC a try next time and see how quickly it gets frusted. If someone isn't that interested in purchasing outfits without a quest/event purpose then gold shouldn't be such an issue either.
Here are some ideas for future content that came into my dirty mind:
Granger: her content is large enough since the original game. Just some more sexual interaction with Cho, Luna, Tonks, etc. would spice the final phase up. The crush between Cho and Granger is obviously still unresolved.
Cho: the latest confession scene with her is extremely lengthy to a degree that it is more torture than pleasure in the end. Some follow-up shorter action, like having some sex would do well. Even some chibi animations as placeholder would do fine at first before it gets replaced by CGI animations. By all means, ending her content with zero repetitive actions left to do is not the way how you want to leave a girl behind in the end.
Adding more like a continuation with Tonks for more action is highly in demand too.
The old Luna normal-route content is the best example how to do a repetitive final phase in the end that satisfies well enough.
Susan: after cracking her insecurity during the last imperio lecture with Astoria, it’s really about time to have some simple let’s-do-it fun with Susan as freebie actions afterwards. Her profile reveals her secret crush on the headmaster, so there is no real need for further chit chat and such. Some silly chibi animations would do fine and feel like Susan is another accomplishment in the end, and not someone you don’t bother to invite to your office at all all the time.
Astoria: she’s indeed a frigid bitch and hard to crack. Tonks seems most interested and possibly the only one who could convert her to a slut too, as Astoria has expressed her disgust to the Old Man often enough. If that is mixed by further sexual torture with Susan, like some silly lactating spell/potion effect, that would be perfect. Astoria could have a crush for Susan but it’s much more hidden than with Cho and Granger. A challenge for Genie and Tonks to solve.
Luna: well, the v1.40+ content replacement still lies deep in the shadow of its removed content of v1.39. Having sex is at least the next logical step with possible additional action with Tonks and Granger. The game really needs more orgies. There must be a good reason why the Ministry of Magic finally intervened with an extensive memory wipe according to Snape’s story in Star Channel 34.
Tonks: the one with the most potential for expansion. I can’t wait for the next new content. Additional personal requests besides her public ones comes quickly into one’s mind. She is interested in Genie after all, so this lack is the biggest blue-ball issue. Tonks is the best partner for moresomes: Cho content already started well, cracking Astoria is still unfinished, Susan is another possibility, same for all the other girls. She’s easily a match for Genie's sexual appetite for more after all.
Snape: let’s not forget about this bastard. Some nasty threesome scenes with Grangers comes into one’s dirty mind in the final phase. No need to get touchy with Snape, rather only the back and front sharing fun similar like the dance/strip event.
He is famous for barging into the most undesired situations, so can play as a joker to whatever other future content scene. Even some small scenes were Genie surprises him in Snape’s room together with a Slyth girl could offer some additional fun. If Snape doesn’t come up sending his girls to Genie, it’s time for a surprise visit as revenge.
Ginny: possibly the most missed character in WTS that finally made an appearance in Star Channel 34; story-wise afterwards. I can’t remember all her sentences there at moment, but her interest in the headmaster same like Susan is there and how often she is mentioned during WT(S). That screams for an appearance in WTS too. I’d still rather expand the existing characters first though to a satisfying end, as long as there is no further idea to expand an existing or future scene. At least a single, special guest appearance during one of the Granger events would be awesome that explains her sexual desire in the SC34 scene when the memory wipe dissolves.
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