Ren'Py Witch Trainer: Silver Mod [v1.48.2] [Silver Studio Games]

[Zeduke]

wonder if we will ever get an actual good animation with hermionne

 

[Livvy]

where did you get that number from?
The game also isnt stolen.
Afaik akabur gave permission to sadcrab and later on silverstudio games to further develop this game.

I imagine that they looked at the Patreon, saw there were 1,607 paid members, and that Platinum membership is £15.5 per month. The math works out to a little over 24k.

The problem is that the logic doesn't hold. Not every member is subscribing at the highest tier. Most will to chip in a little bit, so are at the lower levels. I can't say for sure how many people are at the highest tier, but I can make an educated guess. See, one of the rewards for donating at the highest tier is the opportunity to vote in an outfit poll. It's really the only tangible reward for those who are at this level of membership. Since the polls began four months ago, there's been a consistently low number of voters. I won't say exact figures, because that's not my place, but it's low. Nowhere near enough to suggest that the team is making 24k a month. Now, maybe a ton of people are supporting at the highest tier, but just don't participate in the polls. It's a possibility, sure. However, when the only tangible reward that is unique to this level is a poll, and that poll doesn't get much engagement, I feel pretty confident in saying that I have a good idea of how many people have a Platinum membership.

Anyway, never mind that. As for the game being stolen? It's not. It's a mod. Witch Trainer: Silver is no more stolen than Skyrim is just because I can install a thousand different mods to let me fuck Thomas the Tank Engine. The team came to an understanding with Akabur some years ago. His only opinion, last I checked anyway, was 'Stop bothering me about those mods, I don't care.' That's not even getting into the fact that has been rebuilt from the ground up at least once.

 

[cxx]

I still can't believe this game earns around 20k bucks every month. I mean, it's a cool mod... but for a stolen game that they only modified? Also, the amount of work they do is laughable. I guess if I were one of the devs, I would never finish this game, not when it makes 20k a month.

well alternative would be innocent witches which is based on same books as akabur's wt.

 

[JasonVarim]

Is there any way to use the original witch trainer cum layer in this mod, because in this silver mod the cum layer sucks and it's wacky

 

[cxx]

Is there any way to use the original witch trainer cum layer in this mod, because in this silver mod the cum layer sucks and it's wacky

yes if you are good on coding, otherwise not.

 

[heavyartillery88]

I mean, she probably will get some more stuff here and there, but she's literally the only complete story here.
The original game was all about her and her only, and that's still in this game.
Every other girl is just a fraction of what she gets as a whole, her stuff is complete already, it's just getting extra stuff.

I selfishly want Hermione to get more content because none of the other girls are in her league imo. Not only looks wise, but also personality wise which is important for trainer games. If I was rich and for some reason I was still into playing porn games I would throw these guys 100k to make Witch Trainer 2.0 with all kinds of new scenes and activities with her and add slower corruption because I am a freak for that lol.

 

[cxx]

I selfishly want Hermione to get more content because none of the other girls are in her league imo. Not only looks wise, but also personality wise which is important for trainer games. If I was rich and for some reason I was still into playing porn games I would throw these guys 100k to make Witch Trainer 2.0 with all kinds of new scenes and activities with her and add slower corruption because I am a freak for that lol.

there are quite a many hermione games now than what was when akabur made his wt.

 

[heavyartillery88]

there are quite a many hermione games now than what was when akabur made his wt.

I am one of those people who can enjoy Deus Ex and Vampire Bloodlines 1 despite all of their flaws because the writing, atmosphere and music are 10/10 so from my perspective no amount of art can beat the story line that Akabur created for WT. Hermione is just a bratty schoolgirl that slowly gets turned into a slut via many different event types.

Not only is the writing superior to other trainer/Hermione games, but also the facial expressions. Molesting her while she has her angry face on is just peak porn for me. It's not exactly a realistic face as it would look ridiculous on a realistic looking model, but 2D/3D porn is not real so you can just focus on creating the perfect 'experience' for the player. The only limit is your talent and maybe even patience as creating quality content requires a lot of extra time for polish. Compare LOTR and The Hobbit movies. Peter Jackson had over a year to prep for the former, but a few months to prep for the latter. That expains the night and day difference. The reason early Simpsons was so good was because they always did multiple drafts of the script before the episode went into production.

"With Hermione" should be a superior and more successful game by default due to all of the art, but the writer doesn't have the talent to do corruption well or even make hot facial expressions for the genre. Just looking at the preview pics of that game I can see Hermione looking seductively at the MC and calling him daddy... that's Ubisoft quality. Not CDPR quality. The fast food of trainer games wrapped in a great looking packaging.

I honestly believe that ultimately skill triumphs over flashiness. Unless the creators stumble onto a goldmine like the people who are making the MCU. The movies themselves are nothing special, but the idea that all of these movies and TV shows are connected really got people fired up a few years ago. I even have friends who usually don't watch those types of 5/10 movies, but they went to the cinema each and every time leading up to Endgame because all of their friends were going and they didn't want to miss out. I personally gave up sometime between Avengers 1 and 2 and I consider it one of my proudest moments as a content consumer.

Sorry for rambling a bit at the end there. Hopefully it's not a problem on this site.

 

[cxx]

Sorry for rambling a bit at the end there. Hopefully it's not a problem on this site.

nope as long as it's on topic like yours.

anyways theme is same on all/most schoolgirl games, make them more or less sluts.

 

[heavyartillery88]

nope as long as it's on topic like yours.

anyways theme is same on all/most schoolgirl games, make them more or less sluts.

Since rambling is not a problem, I will also add that personally I am surprised that there are people like you who have been around since at least 2017 and you are not as grumpy as me lol. I liked the Cho storyline here, but since it's not on the level of Hermione there is part of me that hates it. It's just a personality thing. I also realize that some people like it and prefer it being worked on because it's at least different.

 

[cxx]

Since rambling is not a problem, I will also add that personally I am surprised that there are people like you who have been around since at least 2017 and you are not as grumpy as me lol. I liked the Cho storyline here, but since it's not on the level of Hermione there is part of me that hates it. It's just a personality thing. I also realize that some people like it and prefer it being worked on because it's at least different.

i'm grumpy on some devs since they don't make updates. this i just play (when time from other games). cho's story has barely begun.

 

[Deneuve]

I selfishly want Hermione to get more content because none of the other girls are in her league imo. Not only looks wise, but also personality wise which is important for trainer games. If I was rich and for some reason I was still into playing porn games I would throw these guys 100k to make Witch Trainer 2.0 with all kinds of new scenes and activities with her and add slower corruption because I am a freak for that lol.

I mean tbf, she's heightened in the HP girl ranking simply because of how Akabur drew her and embellishing her "need to follow rules" trait (which died down as the series went on) for the House Points that became a non factor outside of Book 1.

Like how Cho here in the mod is defined by her being in Quidditch (which the movies heavily cut out), which gets to add a new trait to her as a "jock girl" because sports.

I think Luna Lovegood is the toppest tier for HP girls, cutie weirdo airhead.

 

[heavyartillery88]

I mean tbf, she's heightened in the HP girl ranking simply because of how Akabur drew her and embellishing her "need to follow rules" trait (which died down as the series went on) for the House Points that became a non factor outside of Book 1.

Like how Cho here in the mod is defined by her being in Quidditch (which the movies heavily cut out), which gets to add a new trait to her as a "jock girl" because sports.

I think Luna Lovegood is the toppest tier for HP girls, cutie weirdo airhead.

The bratty personality and her looks are what make her top. It's as simple as that. It's kinda weird to dismiss something being done well as 'It's good, but that's just because it was done well.' And the books don't matter. A good porn parody utilizes stereotypes well, it doesn't try to escape them.

The airhead could be a good character for some 10 minute video on rule34video or as a side character in a game, but for a good corruption/trainer Hermione is where it's at. It just gives you more to work with story wise because she is always fighting you right up until the end.

And yes Akabur really did a godlike job drawing her. She has probably generated well over a million bucks by now if we count all of the projects that use her model or were inspired by her model.

If you like the other girls more that's fine of course. I just really think that Akabur made a masterpiece here through and through.

 

[Deneuve]

The bratty personality and her looks are what make her top. It's as simple as that. It's kinda weird to dismiss something being done well as 'It's good, but that's just because it was done well.' And the books don't matter. A good porn parody utilizes stereotypes well, it doesn't try to escape them.

The airhead could be a good character for some 10 minute video on rule34video or as a side character in a game, but for a good corruption/trainer Hermione is where it's at. It just gives you more to work with story wise because she is always fighting you right up until the end.

And yes Akabur really did a godlike job drawing her. She has probably generated well over a million bucks by now if we count all of the projects that use her model or were inspired by her model.

If you like the other girls more that's fine of course. I just really think that Akabur made a masterpiece here through and through.

ehh I like the airhead corruption of Luna.

To be fair most of them would be good corruptions given extensive writing and slow burn, even Cho. A good corruption is because you chip away at that prude or naive exterior. But what I like is that Akabur held back on the full corruption of Hermione without sacrificing his "mind broken slut" final form.

What I mean by this is I never like the final form of corruptions in Japanese games where its a tattooed, pierced, gyaru.
The balance of just being this slutty girl but still trying to hold onto that last piece of trying to be decent is the perfect balance.

I remember when it was still just Witch Trainer original, plenty of people complained because it was such a slow burn. And normally I would agree with them but the difference is WT was complete. I know I can see the ending in the slow burn of this. The problem with a lot of h-game corruption is that usually theyre never finished or has been years since theyve started and we're still at the slow burn. Knowing that I am gonna see a corrupted girl at the end of it is what helps enhance the slow burn, whereas otherwise itd feel pointless.

 

[JasonVarim]

yes if you are good on coding, otherwise not.

Ohh dang it

 

[cxx]

there are still astoria and susan to sort out.

 

[Livvy]

Stop doing calculations in fascistic currencies. Your police officers cannot conduct a house visit online.

The irony of complaining about fascist currencies, and then using USD. Besides, it's the currency of the team, since they're based in the UK. For their ills.

You need to be at a certain tier to get Early Access. The cheapest tier for that is 10 bucks; the other tier is 20 bucks. 1600+ member so I am guessing they make around 20k USD!



The logic couldn't be simpler.

Okay, we'll get to the early access thing in a second, but let's go over the Platinum, Gold tiers and Silver. What's the difference between the three, and what would encourage me to buy in at $20 and not $10 or even $5? The only difference between Platinum and Gold is the ability to vote on outfits, which, as I've already said, given the number of voters each month, suggests that the people donating at this level is low. So to get to $20k, we're going to have to rely on a lot of people choosing to get the Gold membership.

With that in mind, what's encouraging me to pitch in $10 rather than $5? What big reward do I get? 'Asset packs (Characters, clothes, etc.)' Like I said before, this essentially means that if you want it, you can get the base files for the various artworks. Nice to have, and useful for modders, but not exactly something the average player is going to want, is it? So I don't think many people are being lured in to spending that extra $5. I suspect that most supporters are in the $2-$5 tiers, with a healthy amount in $10, and finally a low number of very generous people chipping in $20 a month. Nowhere near 20k USD.

Now onto that early access perk. The game itself is free for all. Not even in a 'If you come to this thread, someone will have leaked a copy' way. The team posts the game for free, every time. Not only that, but anyone can track the updates in real time by going to the publicly accessible git. Do you want to play the upcoming Tonks release before it's finished? Go ahead. It's available for you right now. Early access does not mean you get to play a special early version of the game exclusive to this tier.

For 20k, they still use the outdated Akabur graphics that look so shitty by now. I like the game, but with a budget of 20k, I would expect WAY more content, new graphics, and some genuine innovations. This is a great fan mod, but the budget is not affecting the quality of the development in any form. I agree with the people saying that people simply wish to support them, which is their right, but that isn't the case. They are selling gated content, so I think I can point out that this isn't really a worthwhile product, and I expect more for people with this kind of budget.

Again, you're making the incorrect assumption that the budget is 20k. But I'll focus on the other things you've brought up. I'd suggest that people go and replay the OG Witch Trainer to refresh their memory, but just off the top of my head; Hermione was the only girl, she had fewer favours, her tutoring didn't work, she had fewer artworks, the artwork wasn't as high definition, and a great many innovations have been implemented. The game has no gated content either. What you see is what you get. Now, if it's your opinion that the team should have done more that's one thing, but let's not make claims that simply are false.

 

[Perniciousducks]

Stop doing calculations in fascistic currencies. Your police officers cannot conduct a house visit online.

Yeah, reported for violations /shrug.

You need to be at a certain tier to get Early Access. The cheapest tier for that is 10 bucks; the other tier is 20 bucks. 1600+ member so I am guessing they make around 20k USD!

The logic couldn't be simpler.

well, I agree the logic cannot be simpler, and also very, very, hilariously wrong. Early access isn't a thing, the game is free, you can download it right now, including all the new stuff they're working on from the public git repo and compile it yourself. The only thing that this tier actually gets is the devs are going to build a pre-release test version for them to mess with without people having to do the git part themselves. Paying to be a beta tester isn't as appealing as you would think. A real beta tester, not the silly triple a marketing betas. Not to mention, that the creation of this beta build hasn't been a thing until this current dev cycle, so it's never happened yet in the history of the game. Everyone has gotten the game at the same time up to this point.

For 20k, they still use the outdated Akabur graphics that look so shitty by now.

There is almost no original artwork left, The vast majority has been replaced by much higher resolution stuff that's been reworked for various reasons.

I like the game, but with a budget of 20k, I would expect WAY more content, new graphics, and some genuine innovations.

20k absolutely hilarious... Loafy, you got yacht money again!

This is a great fan mod, but the budget is not affecting the quality of the development in any form.

Can I visit this fantasy world of yours? Sounds fun.

I agree with the people saying that people simply wish to support them, which is their right, but that isn't the case. They are selling gated content, so I think I can point out that this isn't really a worthwhile product, and I expect more for people with this kind of budget.

Literally no gated content for the game, you can get art assets or vote on costumes (that are selected from the overwhelmingly popular (patronship not required) submissions submitted by anyone, (patronship again not required). I've seen how many votes this gets. Livvy saying "low" is somehow misleading... you might think like 5% of patrons... no, it's a fraction of a fraction of a percent. I guess right now would be a good time to subscribe if you care about voting on the costume gauntlet, 1 vote goes a loooong way

 

[lelouch0101]

save plis

 

[Bummenphist]

Just curious, what is a fascistic currency supposed to be?