Ren'Py With Hermione [v0.3.3.3.alpha] [Kirill Repin Art]

[swiver]

How the hell does the titjob minigame work? I get it's supposed to be a rhythm game and I've gotten past the first "stage" when the first symbol unlocks, but after that there doesn't seem to be any rhythm to it. It just automatically goes to half the meter after that and then drops down and the whole thing resets.

EDIT: Figured out how it works, but I could swear that there's some randomness to the way the game registers your clicks which makes it feel arbitrary. The minigame would be sexy as hell but the mechanics take most of the joy out of it. The way you have to juggle different buttons while keeping the right rhythm up to do the minigame makes sure you don't get to look at Hermione much at all.

EDIT2: This is either confusing or janky. I can't get HP to cum in the second stage anymore where you have to hunt the red lights while the meter raises automatically. Every time the meter fills and starts from the beginning, if I press the hand symbol, she'll just start sucking your thumb forever. And when I click it again, the 2nd stage will start from the beginning.

EDIT3: Somehow it finally worked, though I don't really know how. This thing could use tooltips or something.

Also how does everyone have 8 points of corruption or something? The only ones I've gotten were two from the different lessons and one from the first titjob. Oh, and one from the Daddy Mode. So 4 total.

I'm also struggling with the second stage. What do you mean by "hunt the red lights"?

The meter starts going up automatically in the second stage and red lights light up next to a button near the meter. Unless you click the corresponding button fast enough, the meter starts going back down again, possibly resetting the stage. What buttons it requires you to push seems to be at least slightly randomized every time you talk to her to request a titjob.

Thinking back at it, I had no idea what I was doing immediately after the 1st stage, so it's completely possible I lucked out and skipped some kind of a second stage without figuring out the mechanics, and that's actually the third stage I'm describing. It's just all very badly laid out and confusing.

Thanks for having this discussion on the last page! I foolishly tried search to find a tip... all the coders around and the search is less useful than leafing through each pages. Here's hoping it works.

I do, but I'd rather not share it at the moment The whole game is basically being rewritten, so I would rather not give any dates right now.
I would say though, the new training mechanics will be a mix of WT, PT and a bit of Magic Shop. That's the game I wanted to make in the first place, but my codding wasn't there yet. I think I can do it now.

Great to hear! I've downloaded the game forever ago and finally gave it a try yesterday. Four hours of frustration! Which only means it's a great game underneath the clunk. I do hope the better aspects are not lost.

I figured out the puzzle after a half hour, but the h-scene I couldn't. I did not mind the puzzle grind, in fact that's part of the hot stuff in these games. And I suppose in retrospect even the clicking of moving rooms and talking is not too much or it wouldn't be if it weren't for the second or two of the graphics/effects... That is a mood and immersion killer.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but by way of feedback, I wanted to mention how small much of the buttons are. Some with chubby fingers and thin eyes might have difficulties. The speed of the "mini-game" would also mean we cannot look at the wonderful graphics you've rustled up for us.

Another point is the private lessons and special assignments, my problem is that the player doesn't understand/see what's happening. I thought they were like a cheat, instead of achieving the results through the puzzles, but then...

I mean, even if it is not for us to achieve it and the professor is corrupting her, which is hot, we should be able to peak at least. We also do not understand the professor's motivation, like, why would she stamp H's happy-hole for me? So that should be added. Even better would be if we have to corrupt the professor to get her to pimp-up Hermoine... Or if the prof is corrupting me!

The conversational corruption could also use some details. There was the one conversation we have with H, which is real with consequences and can fail but then nothing. There should some sort of reason why she continues/becomes more accommodating to our wishes, esp. the favours. Like she's starting to enjoy submission/domination or falling in love with MC or whatever. Maybe gifting her stuff she likes with a twist and when she's tired buying her dinner, giving her a massage, cuddling, etc. could be a way to gain affection or conditioning her.

Anyway, just thoughts stimulated by how much I liked the game. Can't wait for update!

 

[beefenstein]

Thanks for having this discussion on the last page! I foolishly tried search to find a tip... all the coders around and the search is less useful than leafing through each pages. Here's hoping it works.

Yeah, the search function really is only slightly better than nothing since you can't order the results by date. Especially if it's an older, popular game with hundreds of pages of discussion. Extra points when some cockwomble chimes in with "just use the search" when you ask something.

 

[swiver]

Extra points when some cockwomble chimes in with "just use the search" when you ask something.

Oh cockwomble! So that's what theyre called!

 

[swiver]

oh one thing I forgot to ask, dev..
deive?
devvie?

will we ever get to see Hermoine's legs? shoes? feet?

you're obviously a connoisseur of stockings and socks, it's a shame we don't get to see the whole thing. Not to mention getting to stilettos and stripper heels would be a cherry to top everything.

 

[Erebus69]

Thanks for having this discussion on the last page! I foolishly tried search to find a tip... all the coders around and the search is less useful than leafing through each pages. Here's hoping it works.

sometimes having google do a site search works

 

[Kirill Repin Art]

oh one thing I forgot to ask, dev..
deive?
devvie?

will we ever get to see Hermoine's legs? shoes? feet?

you're obviously a connoisseur of stockings and socks, it's a shame we don't get to see the whole thing. Not to mention getting to stilettos and stripper heels would be a cherry to top everything.

The current sprite doesn't have feet, which makes shoes pretty hard to see (some might even say impossible), but they might appear in some other arts, similar to the way it's done in the main menu.

Game is still in in its Alpha stage, the game mechanics are being changed a lot.

You have to keep in mind, I'm a professional artist, I had to learn how to code in order to be able to make the game. My coding ability is on a different level now compared to when I've started, and that broadens the scope of the things I can do.

W.I.P.


New training system will be different from the one you've played.

 

[swiver]

The current sprite doesn't have feet, which makes shoes pretty hard to see (some might even say impossible), but they might appear in some other arts, similar to the way it's done in the main menu.

Game is still in in its Alpha stage, the game mechanics are being changed a lot.

You have to keep in mind, I'm a professional artist, I had to learn how to code in order to be able to make the game. My coding ability is on a different level now compared to when I've started, and that broadens the scope of the things I can do.

W.I.P.
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New training system will be different from the one you've played.

Thanks for the informative response. Love the work and sure am optimistic to see what you have in store for us.

Of course I understand there's always limitations. Ultimately I'm happy whatever you end up making.

I guess I prattle on more because it's in alpha. Thinking maybe creators can more realistically use the input. I mean, I imagine dev's might tear their hair out if ten-chapters-in some smartass crows that something that runs through the whole thing should've been different all along.

I think I am excited about literally every single thing in that picture. I'd make a list, but that would break my SHIFT and 1 keys. You HAVE already thought of all of my suggestions and much more. AWESOME!

I have had time to check a couple of your older posts about your plans. The backstory you mention I think is quite alright. For me, though, it would simply be for the sake of your story/game, not necessarily as Harry Potter fan lore sequel stuff.

 

[Ofdimaelr]

The current sprite doesn't have feet, which makes shoes pretty hard to see (some might even say impossible), but they might appear in some other arts, similar to the way it's done in the main menu.

Game is still in in its Alpha stage, the game mechanics are being changed a lot.

You have to keep in mind, I'm a professional artist, I had to learn how to code in order to be able to make the game. My coding ability is on a different level now compared to when I've started, and that broadens the scope of the things I can do.

W.I.P.
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New training system will be different from the one you've played.

No more weird mini game with geometric figure ? Because I still don't know how it work

 

[tarzan999]

The current sprite doesn't have feet, which makes shoes pretty hard to see (some might even say impossible), but they might appear in some other arts, similar to the way it's done in the main menu.

Game is still in in its Alpha stage, the game mechanics are being changed a lot.

You have to keep in mind, I'm a professional artist, I had to learn how to code in order to be able to make the game. My coding ability is on a different level now compared to when I've started, and that broadens the scope of the things I can do.

W.I.P.
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New training system will be different from the one you've played.

Your Hermione looks so damn good. I only pray that that you are at least half as good as a writer.

 

[swiver]

No more weird mini game with geometric figure ? Because I still don't know how it work

I think the failure is that of instruction rather than the mini game itself. As a matter of fact I believe this is among the best grind mini-game I've ever played.

From the games/VNs I've played, developers have been making the paths to achieve scenes/complete story in 3 ways:
1. choice format (decisions determine the story)
2. follow steps format (mainly sandbox stuff)
3. mini-game format.

The mini-game format itself also has 3 types, though combinable:
a. luck games
b. skill games
c. grind games (technically similar to 2. though the feel is different if you're immersed)

This game is clearly type c.

The reason I really like that there is a game-grind in the first place is that it fits the story. Supposedly, this is a class where you learn to do something, and doing it correctly achieves what you want. You learn a spell and get to see H naked and the experience corrupts her. As far as I have played, no other dev has made the action that supposedly requires time and effort so convincingly (though admittedly I never play sport-based mini-games so I don't know if someone has managed that there). Some lewd-mini games out there where the goal is giving orgasms or inducing personality changes that are also pretty decent.

I generally prefer this type of mini-game since it gives you the feel of achievement and hot grind without risking it being too challenging, requiring of focus, frustrating like blackjack or dice-rolls,etc.

Maybe something for the dev's consideration, lest he think it is the players' uninamous opinion that this mini-game should be completely changed.

If the instructions are clear, it would not be so controversial. The instructions in original post above require foreknowledge and thus not enough. The instructions in the game right before the first time you get the game interface are more useful to actually understand the mechanics but they leave you to figure out the details. In retrospect I enjoyed figurug things out.

I suppose it's ultimately moot since dev is overhauling it. But since it's gonna be a while until then, and if you're anything like us fans of With Hermoine here, the current content is pretty hot, here's how to play (again? sure someone above has described it already):

The interface has these elements:
1. the big board/space at the top where the figures end up,
2. the name of group of figures on the left below the board
3. the size of the chosen figure on the right below the board
4. at bottom is the figure-inventory with arrows to leaf through
5. on the side is the scroll with the goal (set of) form(s) that you should place in the board (if it's hidden, you can pull it out by clicking on its edges peaking out on the right of the interface)

To make the "spell" you have to follow these steps:
1. choose the group of figures (element 2)
2. use arrows to find the figure from inventory (element 4)*
3. choose size of the figure (element 3)
4. click on the figure to insert into board (element 4, click figure, not arrows)
5. rotate figure on board until a subtle aura light up around it (element 1, click on the inserted figure, not on the centre)
6. Repeat steps if there's multiple figures *
7. click on the centre
*. There is a figure hierarchy whereby figures from certain groups should be inserted after those from other groups because rotating them in the board will also cause other, already inserted figures to rotate, so they will rotate out of the correct position. This hierarchy is what dev has inserted in the spoiler in OP:

Corpora Caelestia - circles, triangles and squares
Elementa Alchemica - pentagons (5 sides), hexagons (6 sides), octagons (8 sides)
Potentiae Ocultae - heptagons (7 sides)
The ranking goes - Potentiae ocultae > Elementa alchemica > Corpora Caelestia. Which means Heptagons rotate themselves and everything else, Pentagons rotate themselves and the Circles, Hexagons rotate themselves and Triangles, Octagons rotate themselves and the Squares.
So you should first rotate Heptagons (when present) into a position, then penta-hexa-octa, and the simpler elements like circles, triangles and squares should be last.

It is not difficult, just a lovely grind, making success even more enjoyable. The only skill-like challenge on the player's part would simply remembering the steps/rules resulting in faster "spellwork", otherwise you have to keep checking the hierarchy or experimenting at length.

The tit-job mini-game is a different story; I haven't retried it after the guys here clarified how it should be played.

 

[MtHopkins]

Great game, and I rarely say that. Your updates have been spot on. But if you’re interested in some ideas, here are some of mine:
1) More locations, i.e. classrooms, where different minigames can be implemented. The current one is very solid, well done.
2) bc you have some freakishly good ai voiceover, consider adding a ton of dirty talk phrases and then a toggle for a randomized auto play. The voice is a really incredible asset for the game.
3) self care (i.e. hygiene, sleep, food) is a way to add a dynamic of grind that may serve this game well. Since there is such a limited number of interactive characters, it comes across as though the MC is in a semi zombie state only interested in the corruption of one person.

 

[JAvatar]

The current sprite doesn't have feet, which makes shoes pretty hard to see (some might even say impossible), but they might appear in some other arts, similar to the way it's done in the main menu.

Game is still in in its Alpha stage, the game mechanics are being changed a lot.

You have to keep in mind, I'm a professional artist, I had to learn how to code in order to be able to make the game. My coding ability is on a different level now compared to when I've started, and that broadens the scope of the things I can do.

W.I.P.
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New training system will be different from the one you've played.

As you are an artist first, a few poses that would give us shoes that could fit into the themes:
Lounging in a chair feet tucked up studying, which could lead to laying sideways on a couch, etc.
On a ladder reaching for books because glutes and gams on a ladder, especially a ladder in heels and in a tiny skirt etc, rock.
Just ancillary poses that she could be caught in, in different rooms and times of day to low-key show parts of the corruption.
Like chair long skirt, feet tucking out, with a closed off body for little to no corruption, while high corruption would be legs spread in a short/tiny skirt, flashing whatever(if anything) she's wearing underneath for high/max corruption.

 

[Ofdimaelr]

As you are an artist first, a few poses that would give us shoes that could fit into the themes:
Lounging in a chair feet tucked up studying, which could lead to laying sideways on a couch, etc.
On a ladder reaching for books because glutes and gams on a ladder, especially a ladder in heels and in a tiny skirt etc, rock.
Just ancillary poses that she could be caught in, in different rooms and times of day to low-key show parts of the corruption.
Like chair long skirt, feet tucking out, with a closed off body for little to no corruption, while high corruption would be legs spread in a short/tiny skirt, flashing whatever(if anything) she's wearing underneath for high/max corruption.

High heels