I thinnk people need to stop reading NTR manga so they won't overracting over spoilt NTR. Japanese mangaka makes NTR kinda strong and really dramatic so the reader will feel how the MC heartbroken and fall. while, Western devs or comics maker alwyas make the NTR feel like a joke and not strong enough to make jealousy happens only lil devs can make it.
I think we need to take it easy to any devs though, also we need to remember the intention why we come here... is it supporting this devs? is it playing free games? fapping? or make the life of devs worse by giving comment that NTR is bad or tell devs to change the game device from RPGM to Renpy?
it will sound white knighted but please if you see ntr tag and you hate ntr... just leave it, i dont ask people not to play or read it but just leave it for your own good and devs
But its not like people go over their way to read NTR mangas/manhwas. From the logic who hates it, they stay away from it.
I agree that there a different versions of NTR but in the end its still NTR and people wont like or accept it.
Im personally more of one of the people who dont mind it when its focused as a breakpoint for the MC, like a cataclyst for a story perspective. But sadly most of the time its just the sexual fetish....which people dont like. Well, not all but you get my point.
Avoidable NTR in a game still gets the tag. So you saying I shall complettly avoid a bunch of good games who still got much what I need but since one part is optional/avoidable I shall avoid it ?
How can you support a dev then ? Like I said, the problem for people are that its not avoidable.
I get that some people get a bit emotional. It just shows me that they liked the game to this point.
Most of the time its the talk if the game is a Sandbox or the big thema about NTR. People tend to get emotional when they see what they liked gets ruined, be them in the right or wrong is a different topic.
And I think we both know how wrong here some tags are when it comes to this debate. Thats why you will see many people who hates it still asking if its avoidable because its not always clear.
But from my part what I said was how I saw it. Nothing more and nothing less.
I didnt insulted the dev or the game. Thats why I dont even gave a low review of the game because of it.
Its just when I came back I read that some NTR scenes, the rape and what happend in the past are scenes that are not avoidable and thats a breakpoint for me. Thats it.
I just said from my point I decided to jump the ship because of it. And if you want to help the dev. well, thats how you can do it. By mentioning it what the fan/customer didnt liked it. If its just a bunch who cares, if its a majorty, perhaps there is something wrong. This counts for different things, not only NTR.
Im fully in support that if the dev. wants to create a specific game and mix it with questionable stuff. Even If I may dont like it in the end, dosent mean I shall stop it from getting created because there is some one always looking for a specific thing.
But thats not the chase here. Thats why I also said that after the dev. decided to create contend based on patreon polls, the game became uninterested in it because its not what the dev. wants, but what the high paying fan wants.
And from what I read and saw its mostly a NTR focused game now. So...
Like one guy here said, I can try to outbid them by paying more but then its not about what the dev wanted, like what I experienced when I first tried the game when it first arrived, but more of a game as a base setting with specific fetishes which wouldnt make much sense.
From my experience it will never end well.
If this is devs. vision of the game however, well than all good luck. But when I read the preview of the game I dont see it even being mentioned there.
I bet that others would still try it if it was avoidable, like not forcing specific contend on all of the player base, but thats not the case here.
Even If people wanted to start to outbid, lets say the high tier guys who pay for NTR contend, it wont change the fact that we already have stuff in it which cant be changed. So from this point there is no reason to start any money fights. Thats why othe devs put them always as optional contend, or even as a seperate "what If" game.
And like I said, I prefer if the dev. creates his vision of the game. But I also can see it from Dev. point of view if he needs the money now.