Would you play a visual novel with AI generated art? [Poll]

[woody554]

I don't think any AI can even make a series of consistent images to tell a story. they can make self-similar images, but they can't tell your story. it'll be like trying to tell a story in real porn genre, none of the images will quite fit even if they're from the same photo shoot.

you could use it for texturizing but not much else.

the best way to use it right now might be first making a normal VN, then switching the visual style to something else. but that's gonna be additional work so who's gonna do that? these games are not exactly known for good work ethics to start with.

it seems to me that people are looking for a magic bullet once again, something that could give them the result of 10 year training with a press of a button. it's not gonna work like that. it never does.

I'm sure we're gonna see some tries coming out soon, but they'll all be even worse than the typical first time dev v0.1 abortions with machine translation we see all the time. they're gonna fail for the exact same reasons those normal worst offenders do: no eye for beauty, no understanding for storytelling, being overwhelmed with the amount of work required. AI helps with none of that.

and when we'll see the first GOOD one using AI it'll come from someone who can actually do a great job without it. not from anyone who expects it to be easy.

 

[Losersriot]

Give me AI-made-Novell - we'llsee

 

[Meaning Less]

Give me AI-made-Novell - we'llsee

Here is another one.

good luck

 

[Lerd0]

Here is another one.

..i still have no idea what da fuck i just played.....

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

Maybe sometime in the future, but right now it just reeks of desire to make quick bucks without putting any effort into gameplay (VN) and art (AI). If that is so, why would you expect writing be approached differently? As of right now, that's just a slightly longer way to spell

lazy greedy dev

Some exceptions will eventually appear, of course.

 

[Earliestbird]

Maybe sometime in the future, but right now it just reeks of desire to make quick bucks without putting any effort into gameplay (VN) and art (AI). If that is so, why would you expect writing be approached differently? As of right now, that's just a slightly longer way to spell

lazy greedy dev

Some exceptions will eventually appear, of course.

This unfortunately also works the other way - people who put real effort into their game getting immediately shit on for daring to use AI art (without which they literally would not have been able to start their dream of making a game in the first place).

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

(without which they literally would not have been able to start their dream of making a game in the first place).

The dichotomy you're setting is false.

Text-only games exist. Games with "stolen" art exist. Successful games without art exist. Games that started without any art, got successful, and were able to hire an artist exist. And sure, I'll grant that the road to financial success via a no-art start is probably harder. Certainly longer. And sure, not all devs using AI-art will neatly fall into the "lazy & greedy" bucket. But a lot of them will.

What I'm saying is this. If you're making a VN, you're basically declaring that writing is your core strength. And when you do that, but also insist that art is super-duper important for you to have and also you have no artistic talent, that raises eyebrows.

 

[Deleted member 5732714]

This unfortunately also works the other way - people who put real effort into their game getting immediately shit on for daring to use AI art (without which they literally would not have been able to start their dream of making a game in the first place).

Game devs using AI for a long time pretty much every aspect in game development.
From the tool you used in photoshop to retopology tools...

And, you are using AI art to create visual novel-ish game, which is looks uncanny. ( Art and writing parts are one of the most important things in your project )
Just look at your profile picture and be honest with yourself.

If you want to create a game, you need to have harmony.
You can use AI's like ChatGPT for writing.
In the writing, you can catch the harmony with basic editing in text.

But you can't do same thing in AI created image part.
It will probably take more time than painting from scratch.

 

[Losersriot]

AI-art missing here. Multyfaces HTML -like crap is not ART.

 

[Dussop]

Most AI art feels store brand cheese; Edible but not satisfying.

 

[Earliestbird]

I'll just leave these "no harmony, store brand cheese" generated pictures here.



Technology is advancing. If you don't like it, stay mad

 

[Lerd0]

Technology is advancing. If you don't like it, stay mad

 

[Deleted member 5732714]

Yeah, good luck with your game.
Don't want to waste my time with dumbs.

 

[Felicityskye]

I don't think any AI can even make a series of consistent images to tell a story. they can make self-similar images, but they can't tell your story. it'll be like trying to tell a story in real porn genre, none of the images will quite fit even if they're from the same photo shoot.

you could use it for texturizing but not much else.

the best way to use it right now might be first making a normal VN, then switching the visual style to something else. but that's gonna be additional work so who's gonna do that? these games are not exactly known for good work ethics to start with.

it seems to me that people are looking for a magic bullet once again, something that could give them the result of 10 year training with a press of a button. it's not gonna work like that. it never does.

I'm sure we're gonna see some tries coming out soon, but they'll all be even worse than the typical first time dev v0.1 abortions with machine translation we see all the time. they're gonna fail for the exact same reasons those normal worst offenders do: no eye for beauty, no understanding for storytelling, being overwhelmed with the amount of work required. AI helps with none of that.

and when we'll see the first GOOD one using AI it'll come from someone who can actually do a great job without it. not from anyone who expects it to be easy.

The OP asked, if the AI can be consistent. Current state of tech AI is still pretty much still in its infancy. But what about in the future when AI tech makes significant strides in improvement to the point you can't tell if it was made by an actual human or an AI? IMO once it gets to this point, does it really matter who made the end product when you can't really tell.

 

[HarveyD]

Why would how the art was made affect my decision? As long as the art isn't stolen I don't care.

 

[Freakbunny]

Why would how the art was made affect my decision? As long as the art isn't stolen I don't care.

Many argue that AI art counts as stolen, since AI uses and repurposes pieces of existing art without the permission of human artists.

I'm staying personally impartial on this subject for the moment, since it's other's opinions I'm looking for - just sharing the dominant argument on the side opposite to you.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

Technology is advancing. If you don't like it, stay mad

And the rate of people prematurely overhyping technological advancement always far outstrips the actual rate of technological advancement, especially in AI (see also: VR, AR, automated driving.)

 

[Reaper9988]

No, AI "art" is cancer. Irrelevant how "good" it is.

 

[Felicityskye]

And the rate of people prematurely overhyping technological advancement always far outstrips the actual rate of technological advancement, especially in AI (see also: VR, AR, automated driving.)

I agree a bunch of people prematurely overhyping tech advancement, but on the flip side I also see people who believe tech will not significantly advance further, like we're at the pinnacle of what we can achieve. Regardless of if advancements are at a snail's pace, it's still advancing. Until it is definitive that significant advancements can no longer be made, there is still credence to the hype.

 

[Asia Argento]

The art isnt the issue, its how it goes together with the scenes and the writing capability of the person using the art and what engine they are using and if they can get the best out of that engine.