wtf is up wit NTR

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From the start, I want to say that my game will never have NTR. But all the questions about whether I will ever include it in my game made me curious. I understand that someone can dislike that content, but why, of all the kinks that people could dislike, do I only hear about that one? Why is it hated to this degree? I'm sure there are other things that people could hate, so why only worry about NTR? It is not even that common, or at least I have never seen it in many games.
 

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From the start, I want to say that my game will never have NTR. But all the questions about whether I will ever include it in my game made me curious. I understand that someone can dislike that content, but why, of all the kinks that people could dislike, do I only hear about that one? Why is it hated to this degree? I'm sure there are other things that people could hate, so why only worry about NTR? It is not even that common, or at least I have never seen it in many games.
Some people have been cheated on in the past and it brings back uncomfortable feelings, some people cannot disengage from it being a fictional story and CANNOT do anything but self insert as the MC (hence why the same people who decry Netorare I have found have NO PROBLEM with Netori), some people follow the crowd of hating it because it's the cool thing to do, some people assert (and I have seen it as well as the opposite) that NTR lovers are proliferate in constantly asking, throwing money around basically trying to get it in games that don't have it to feel that same level of having something taken away from another, some people cannot fathom the idea that even if they cannot understand something, someone else does and likewise that just because someone doesn't like something it doesn't mean that one should turn their subjective morality into an objective one, or attempt to. People like what they like, I sometimes get something similiar in the Futa genre, some don't understand it. The key point is that it is far better for everyone, and makes a far stronger and developed person if you can realise that sometimes, things are not understandable to some people and never will be, and simply to accept that. I cannot fathom what is sexy about being peed on, or playing with do-do, or people that dress in animal fur suits and call themselves Bigknot Greymane. But in the end I just accept I can't understand it, I accept others find it enjoyable in a way I cannot fathom, and I simply move on. But others have the idea that if I cannot understand it then no-one else should, or they disagree with a genre morally and project their morality onto others with anyone not being like them being labelled degenerate or deviant (without the self reflection to realise someone else probably thinks that of them.), or they attach their own perception and background experiences onto the genre, or a myriad of other reasons.

In the end, it doesn't even matter. Anyone who attacks a genre, because of the genre, needs to self reflect and ask themselves one question: Why? and I mean honestly, a deep self reflection and analysis. But people won't do that, it's far easier to conquer an external enemy, even one created and a projection, than conquer oneself.
 

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From the start, I want to say that my game will never have NTR. But all the questions about whether I will ever include it in my game made me curious. I understand that someone can dislike that content, but why, of all the kinks that people could dislike, do I only hear about that one? Why is it hated to this degree? I'm sure there are other things that people could hate, so why only worry about NTR? It is not even that common, or at least I have never seen it in many games.
You better not be adding NTR to your game :mad:
 
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its an utter loaded topic and I understand there is somehow an audience for it, but there is also a major portion of users on this site that cannot stand it(myself included) however I'm also abit of a hypocrite in that reguard that I love Netori/Netoru which is the reverse Genre of NTR where we are taking the girls from others (and I think thats a pretty common hidden kink in most males but I dont really want to speak for all males so...), but yeah back to the topic I try to avoid games I know have NTR in them but at times I have downloaded a game that sounded interesting just to have the bait and switch pulled and NTR to kick in and honestly that pisses me off the most that what I could have considered a great hgame gets completely destroyed by a fetish that makes me unreasonably angry.

anyway thats my small thoughts on the subject, hope this added some perspective.
 
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its an utter loaded topic and I understand there is somehow an audience for it, but there is also a major portion of users on this site that cannot stand it(myself included) however I'm also abit of a hypocrite in that reguard that I love Netori/Netoru which is the reverse Genre of NTR where we are taking the girls from others (and I think thats a pretty common hidden kink in most males but I dont really want to speak for all males so...), but yeah back to the topic I try to avoid games I know have NTR in them but at times I have downloaded a game that sounded interesting just to have the bait and switch pulled and NTR to kick in and honestly that pisses me off the most that what I could have considered a great hgame gets completely destroyed by a fetish that makes me unreasonably angry.

anyway thats my small thoughts on the subject, hope this added some perspective.
Yeah, I get it. I don't like NTR, but it doesn't make me angry. Some other things do make me a bit angry. Most often, when the MC is an asshole. And I'm not talking about a somewhat cool asshole but more of an incel-ish type of asshole.
 

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probably because they think your game looks like one that will add it.

it's not random, not every game gets bombarded with the question. something in your game is triggering the question.

also sometimes devs try to be cagey with future content and cause the suspicion themselves.

a good idea is to clearly state your stance on divisive kinks at launch and NEVER go back on that. lying is the worst thing you can do, and people will shit on you for it forever. like seriously they'll keep bringing it up 5 games from now.
 

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not quite, its saying I hate a genre where people steal from me while loving a genre where I steal from others and that is basically hypocrisy, to which I own as a personal fault of character.
they're opposite fetishes.

netorare is a form of masochism where fetishist enjoys the bitter emotional hurt they experience from their love being taken against the fetishist's will.

netorase is the fetish of enjoying SHARING your love with others.

these two fetishes couldn't be further apart and have no overlap. that why morons shouldn't insist on using japanese words they don't understand and insanely believe these two literal opposites are same fetish.
 

gilgamesh4321

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People losing their shit about kinks in porn have the emotional maturity of a child.
That's fine but they should stop annoying other people who just want to have a good wank.
Virtue signalling while being a degenerate wanker is just absurd.

There is a good reason most porn contains some kind of taboo.
People want to be stimulated, not watch some boring vanilla shit.
There are probably more stepmothers and stepsisters on Pornhub than the entire world.
 
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And what kind of game is yours?
Real porn sandbox about using powers given to you by the Goddess of Love. It's a sandbox but I will do everything to avoid annoying grind. If you are asking to figure out why I get asked about NTR, then I have no idea.
 

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One would have to assume that if you are able to care what happens to fictional characters in a novel beyond the usual appreciation of drama in a narrative, that it's some sort of mental illness. They have to think what they play reflects upon them somehow - that if they play a game with some element they're now inhabiting that element in their souls almost like a religious belief. Their friends and family are going to abandon them if they let their souls become corrupted. They need the validation of playing the right porn game so God lets them to heaven after they kill themselves.

If its not that they wouldn't expend all that energy to complain about it online to the point where porn forum mods start adding trigger warnings about it. It HAS to be a belief system about their own egos and whatnot.
 
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Real porn sandbox about using powers given to you by the Goddess of Love. It's a sandbox but I will do everything to avoid annoying grind. If you are asking to figure out why I get asked about NTR, then I have no idea.
I hate sandbox games. Have nice day. Kys.
 

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I can not speak for everyone but it comes down to that it does not turn me on, in fact like some other tags it disgusts me. Also because of experiences in supporting avns with devs that seem trustworthy at first, then after the game gets decent support pulls a switch and turns the game into something that the dev promised it would not be, may sound strange to some people. To any dev reading this be upfront about what is going to be in a avn, but try not to mix tags that are completely opposite of each other, it will cause a lot of friction.
 
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From the start, I want to say that my game will never have NTR. But all the questions about whether I will ever include it in my game made me curious. I understand that someone can dislike that content, but why, of all the kinks that people could dislike, do I only hear about that one? Why is it hated to this degree? I'm sure there are other things that people could hate, so why only worry about NTR? It is not even that common, or at least I have never seen it in many games.
I could see being cheated on in the past would play into it for sure I would think. Also I just think it's viewed as "pussy shit" since most of the time in NTR games the MC is humiliated and degraded by the female character and her lover. I'm not even a fan of this as a fan of NTR. At the end of it all if you're not into don't put it in your games simple and those who want it need to find a game that provides it and not ask devs who aren't interested in putting it into their games.
 
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