wtf is up wit NTR

Gone405

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I can not speak for everyone but it comes down to that it does not turn me on, in fact like some other tags it disgusts me. Also because of experiences in supporting avns with devs that seem trustworthy at first, then after the game gets decent support pulls a switch and turns the game into something that the dev promised it would not be, may sound strange to some people. To any dev reading this be upfront about what is going to be in a avn, but try not to mix tags that are completely opposite of each other, it will cause a lot of friction.
I get that then. That would be some dumb shit to add it to a game that's never had it up to that point. It's just like in mainstream games if you try to get a super wide audience you most likely won't get anyone to play.
 
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FlinPaltwell

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not quite, its saying I hate a genre where people steal from me while loving a genre where I steal from others and that is basically hypocrisy, to which I own as a personal fault of character.
I don't really agree with the use of the word "hypocrisy" when describing what kinds of fiction you privately enjoy. I think the word only makes sense when applied to real-world actions.
But whether or not the word applies, it's not a "fault of character."

You're allowed to have selfish fantasies. That's not hypocritical, that's normal. A massive amount of erotica is selfish by nature, and that is 100% okay and says nothing one way or the other about one's character or behavior in the real world.
 
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To put it simply, They just attack what they can't let themselves understand, find the time to understand or find the truth of. They feel a sense of danger from pursuing the truth and maybe they are in danger, who knows what kind of environment they are in or grew up in? That's why they're so heated about it. Maybe enjoying NTR games will totally flip their minds upside down and they won't know how to function normally after, maybe they won't be able to get it up when having sex, maybe they won't be able to see their crush in a normal way anymore etc.
All of these are not gonna happen of course but the fear is just too strong.

Real Life NTR on the other hand, that's a whole can of worms I'll leave that to actual swingers and cuckolds. I don't know its long term effects, I don't wanna try it, I don't want to entertain it, it frightens me.
 
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Stalker Seducer

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"From the start, I want to say that my game will never have NTR". I know you are joking but I'm just making sure cuz people really hate that stuff lol
I'm joking but it doesn't really matter, i don't play games using IRL porn images.
 

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People will always comment more on what they hate than what they like. If 100 people liked something perhaps 10 of them would leave a review, but if said 100 people hated something, 80-85 of them would absolutely leave a negative review.

NTR is just the fetish that has the most haters, but still it's just a minority, most people just ignore what they don't like since it's absolutely pointless, however I have to point it out that even those haters have different tolerances related to what they call NTR.

For example, some will hate NTR but will like netori, some would accept their harem to have sex with each other even if the MC isn't present, others would even accept NPC x NPC relationships if no main girl is in said scene (a.k.a all romantic interests of MC).

In the end it's just a question of personal tolerance and overall tolerance. Personally I'm mid level in the sense that I can perfectly play any game in which NTR isn't forced, however depending on the gameplay you may end up in a situation that while was avoidable at the start, gets to a point in which it isn't.
 

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I think it depends on how one plays a AVN. Me personally I don't really care about my MC one way or another it's more like a tool to tell a story and get to know characters and pic choices based on what is fun or just what want to do. So I treat sex scenes like a porno just there to watch and enjoy it but who is in it doesn't mater all that much most of the time , until I take overwhelming liking to a LI then I look forward to it alot. But if that LI got NTR'd id be okay with if it made sense in a story and depending on the context and type of game might make dislike a LI. So generally i'll play anything really besides a few select tags I just dont want to see like loli's.

So NTR doesn't bother me but it isn't a favorite of mine or anything as it usually comes across more porny than making sense in a story. Typically I have the opinion NTR doesn't belong in most story driven games as it just ruins it and makes no sense. But NTR is more for porno AVN's where you just want to shut your brain off and enjoy something as a guilty pleasure.
 

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i really love NTR if its avoidable i don't enjoy The Japanese games where you play as guy and the whole story is about your wife cucking you without anyway to fight back or if this story only about this i don't play them , but i love games that have NTR and sharing as avoidable content where in first you build your relationship with the girl and get to know her and plot forwards then you get the choices either share your girl or not and ( based on your choices in story would she cheat or not ) so yeh i really hate when people act as if the LI are real girls and act jealous its game and i'm not the MC and no one in their mind in real life would want to see his other cheat or be shared but here in porn games i play and have fun , so NTR actually gives the dev so many ideas to the games , Like harem games when you play them you always know whatever you choose nothing will bite you back because every girl falls for you and all guys are cucks and you are the chosen one so even if let's say guys kidnap your Li you know nothing will happen because it IS Harem game and the dev said already NO NTR so the dev will be limited in everything , that's why i feel like the Dev should keep all options open in his story , NTR/sharing/Domination and romance they can be used together to create really good games in my opinion
 

Death Panda

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The problem with NTR is that it's melodrama. Melodrama exists to liquate the narrative and convert it into pure, unadulterated, raw feeling for the viewer and for NTR, that feeling is horny. But if you're not into NTR, then the horny misses the mark and you're left with nothing but a pointlessly wrecked narrative.

It's the same reason people used to love hating on Twilight.
 

♍VoidTraveler

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They fear other dick. They fear it so much that it borders on crazy.
Probably got cucked or cheated in RL and are now automatically projecting their trauma into their virtual life as well.
It's sad, hilarious, and often annoying as shit. Because they can never seem to shut up about it.
Even when it's avoidable in the game. Really fucking cringe-worthy pieces of work. :rolleyes::coffee:
 
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Dessolos

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They fear other dick. They fear it so much that it borders on crazy.
Probably got cucked or cheated in RL and are now automatically projecting their trauma into their virtual life as well.
It's sad, hilarious, and often annoying as shit. Because they can never seem to shut up about it.
Even when it's avoidable in the game. Really fucking cringe-worthy pieces of work. :rolleyes::coffee:
the worst is when they scream NTR when they aren't even in a relationship with said LI or it's the MC's father and mother getting it on haha
 

woody554

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the worst is when they scream NTR when they aren't even in a relationship with said LI or it's the MC's father and mother getting it on haha
neither means it can't be ntr. it only requires the woman to have made some kind of emotional commitment with to mc, and then doing something that makes the mc jealous.

like the mom having a thing with son, then fucking dad to make son jealous. the woman's relationship has no relevance. only if there's NO commitment or NO jealousy means it's not ntr.
 

DarknessDai

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They fear other dick. They fear it so much that it borders on crazy.
Probably got cucked or cheated in RL and are now automatically projecting their trauma into their virtual life as well.
It's sad, hilarious, and often annoying as shit. Because they can never seem to shut up about it.
Even when it's avoidable in the game. Really fucking cringe-worthy pieces of work. :rolleyes::coffee:
true
 

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People hate NTR because NTR fans are extremely defensive. You don’t see foot fetishists creating threads crying about how many people think their fetish stinks.
 
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Dessolos

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neither means it can't be ntr. it only requires the woman to have made some kind of emotional commitment with to mc, and then doing something that makes the mc jealous.

like the mom having a thing with son, then fucking dad to make son jealous. the woman's relationship has no relevance. only if there's NO commitment or NO jealousy means it's not ntr.
well I was more talking about when there is nothing going on yet with a MC. For example first day of school MC sees a potential LI having sex in the bathroom. Some would scream NTR because she is on the LI list or vis versa for the mother and father. When I say relationship I mean being exclusive cause yeah if it's a FWB relationship for example but nothing beyond that I don't see it as be NTR until it turns into a commitment of some sort.
 

♍VoidTraveler

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People hate NTR because NTR fans are extremely defensive. You don’t see foot fetishists creating threads crying about how many people think their fetish stinks.
Only not really lmao, please don't act like you fucking know shit if you don't, it only makes you look stupid.
Actual NTR fans mostly hang out in their ntr threads/lurk, they don't need to create any threads since they just don't care who thinks what, they rarely if ever even respond to the constant kink shaming they get from fucking annoying 'harem fans.' :whistle::coffee:
 
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♍VoidTraveler

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I'm gonna start a tally on all these NTR threads. Just for shits and gigs. Tally is at 1!
Give up, it'll never end, everyone knows it.
I only bothered to write anything today because the stupid mf's shat in one of the rather wholesome new threads today and that pissed me off so i decided to vent. :whistle::coffee:
 

Insomnimaniac Games

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Give up, it'll never end, everyone knows it.
I only bothered to write anything today because the stupid mf's shat in one of the rather wholesome new threads today and that pissed me off so i decided to vent. :whistle::coffee:
It's more for my own amusement. I think I'll go for a month? Or until I totally forget. Whichever comes first. Honestly, I don't get the psycho-analyzing people do when it comes to NTR, both for the haters and enjoyers.
 
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Insomnimaniac Games

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I pray to the void that you'll forget just as quickly as i tend to run out of fucks to give.
Knowing me, I'll completely forget by tomorrow.
After all, few things are more worthless than the ntr debates. :rolleyes::coffee:
Would that everyone could just ignore things they don't like. (And that devs actually be honest about what's planned for their games.)