swills13

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TBF I don't think the car was GIVEN to MC, but rather he was allowed the use of it, which I think would skirt the rules.
That's kinda why i put if someone just kinda left you the keys too it no one's really gonna do anything.
You just can't have it be a gift under NCAA regulations. Even petty gifts like Candy are technically against the regulations for a D1 and D2 athlete.


I mean...I could always not, but surprising the least reality breaking thing in the game is the setting. It's just harder for people to believe who haven't seen how absolutely crazy US college sports are.
I appreciate that people are now having a discussion/debate about something like this, which is actually interesting, as opposed to to the same nonsense about incest and/or the update schedule.

That said, there are a lot of really bad takes here regarding the realism of MC's situation as a star athlete. I was a college athlete (baseball) at a mid-sized university, and later worked for a short time in a major D1 athletic department, so I have a decent amount of experience in this area. There is no way in hell that an athlete could get the sort of benefits that MC receives in the game without the NCAA coming down on the university with a vengeance. Yes, college athletes can be provided housing, but it is basically dorm housing. The athlete dorms are often slightly nicer than other dorms, but they are still dorms. They sure as hell aren't mansions with a dozen bedrooms and a pool. Similarly, college athletes absolutely cannot be provided with a car, even if it is a loan, as several people have suggested.

Here are a couple examples of things for which college basketball players have received lengthy suspensions from the NCAA:
1) A player was suspended six games because his mother, without the player's knowledge, took a loan from the player's former AAU coach (who had no affiliation with the university) totaling $4,500. The mom had severe health issues requiring extensive hospital bills, and the bank had foreclosed on the family's home. The mom had taken the loans, which she had paid back within weeks, to be able to keep her family off the streets. Even though the player, who was away at school, had no knowledge of any of this, he was still ruled ineligible.

2) A UNLV player was suspended for buying a used mattress and box spring from an assistant coach, and for using a moving truck provided by the coach to move the mattress.

3) Only 2 years ago, James Wiseman, who was arguably the top college player in the nation, was ruled ineligible by the NCAA for impermissible benefits his family had received his junior year of high school, when his coach paid for the Wiseman family's moving expenses, which allowed them to move so that he could attend a better school.

With all this said, MC, being the most hyped recruit in college basketball, would be under a microscope at WVM, and there is zero chance the school could have provided him a mansion and luxury vehicle without the NCAA banning him and/or the basketball team.
 

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The 'in the future' thing surprised me when we found out about it. I wonder why BD did that, I don't remember him saying. It's only one or two years, so not really enough for him to be planning any kind of sci-fi thing.
Probably just to give him some more creative freedom
 

Dragon59

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The 'in the future' thing surprised me when we found out about it. I wonder why BD did that, I don't remember him saying. It's only one or two years, so not really enough for him to be planning any kind of sci-fi thing.
[DISCLAIMER: Not a post asking for incest in WVM]
Parental love is set in 2027 so that they could have the development of reliable gene therapy to avoid the problem of harmful recessives and therefore making family marriage legal in some countries.

It's a good thing that WVM wasn't set in 2020, eh?
 
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Dragon59

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I don't really get how setting it in 2023 gives him any more creative freedom than setting it in 2020 would.
For one thing, you don't have to reference real-world events. If it were set in 2020, it would be a pretty boring game as everyone went to online classes at the university.
 
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Dragon59

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to move past covid because he can see into the future?
That's just one example. One never knows how things could change. Also it allows the dev more freedom, much like my PL example. One could say that certain rules changed over those years. It would cover points where the Dev wasn't completely accurate about how things are managed currently (such as compensation restrictions to college athletes).
 
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For one thing, you don't have to reference real-world events. If it were set in 2020, it would be a pretty boring game as everyone went to online classes at the university.
Yeah but that's not any more free than just setting it in a utopian 2020.
Or even better yet just not listing a year because frankly outside of the MC spending however many years he will in college before being drafted it really doesn't change anything.
 
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Generally I assume that stories that are close to reality take place in a parallel universe where everything is similar but not quite the same. So even if he did set it in 2020 I wouldn‘t care and just assume COVID isn‘t a thing there.

„Yes, Officer. All these 20 or something girls belong to the same household. No we are not breaking quarantine by having a poolparty with this many people from the same household“
 

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I appreciate that people are now having a discussion/debate about something like this, which is actually interesting, as opposed to to the same nonsense about incest and/or the update schedule.

With all this said, MC, being the most hyped recruit in college basketball, would be under a microscope at WVM, and there is zero chance the school could have provided him a mansion and luxury vehicle without the NCAA banning him and/or the basketball team.
I don't disagree with this take. I just said it's the least problematic element of the story as it has happened.
Heck even the student athletes being given cars is .

Yes the modern NCAA is really strict but ultimately the blowback tends only to impact the universities in the very short term (1-2 years tops).
 

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I love that people are trying to explain realism in a harem porn game set in the future.
So there are certain areas of realistically any game - whether it's adult themed or not - where you have to suspend disbelief, and realism doesn't really apply. However, having some realistic elements can help a game's immersion, can help one identify with characters, and such. Everyone has a different level of the ideal amount of 'realism' inside their fantasies, and some like having it in different areas than others. One of the reasons I like this game is because of how good a person the MC is. Regardless of whether or not the MC's harem is 'realistic' in general, it feels more justifiable to me because of this, than if they were a power and money hungry jerk that treats everyone around them as tools to be used. This increases my enjoyment of the game. It's a personal taste thing, but it has ties to what I perceive as 'realistic'.

I am under no illusions that this story could happen in real life. It is a fantasy. At the same time, if the MC, based on the story, and the world that's been created around the characters right now, suddenly developed magical powers, I'd not like that, because it would break the immersion I have, because it doesn't really fit with the world setting I've been building up in my mind based on what Braindrop has given us so far. This is where the idea of 'realism' is good to consider in any form of entertainment - it requires internal consistency. I think the discussions about US college athletes, and what is and is not allowed, fits very well within the relevance of internal consistency, personally.
 

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For one thing, you don't have to reference real-world events. If it were set in 2020, it would be a pretty boring game as everyone went to online classes at the university.
You don't have to reference real-world events either way. If he had set it in 2020 would anybody be complaining that it didn't reference the lockdowns? I'm pretty sure there will be real-world events in 2023 as well, and the game obviously doesn't reference them.
It's not a problem it being set in the future, I just don't see the point. Maybe when BD comes back from his well-deserved holiday someone can ask him.
 
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