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ImperialD

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I see Damien as redeemable as he was under enormous pressure and didn't do anything to harm MC and even tried to get him to just leave. Ryker is not. He's just a bastard who was working almost the whole game to harm the MC. He'll either stay in a coma or wind up going up the river. I do think Jasmine will be added to the Harem. That's another black mark on Damien how he hurt her. It would also help the team getting Damien back as he was still a great player, while Ryker was mediocre and his attitude would hurt more than even a decent player's skills would help.
yeah i say fuck Damien .. he's a lying ass fuck that can burn in hell before i forgive that piece of shit ..... i'm saying this with all love and sincerity :devilish:
 

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Regarding Damien, I can agree that it's complicated when it comes to his future forgiveness and/or redemption. Yes, he was coerced by Ryker while in an emotionally unstable state. Yes, he tried to minimize the "damage" by under-reporting what he saw while spying on MC. But, he also treated Jasmine like she didn't exist, and whether or not that's "just" between Jasmine and Damien, that kind of shitty treatment doesn't sit well with MC when it comes to someone he cares about. Damien also broke the team's trust (as did Kenji) by their behavior, so there's that.

Honestly, I don't see any redemption of Damien in the near future, unless he does something extremely miraculous, but even then, the positive impact on Damien would be minor (given his betrayal in the past).
 
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ZTex

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i hope you all ( that like Damien ) realize that he got transferred to another school .. so seeing him again is not likely (y)
I mean, is it wrong to enjoy the best written character in the game ?

So far he's the only character not to be exceedingly one note. Now, work in progress and things can and probably will change but saying that he's gone and forgotten is pretty silly. We know the MC isn't going to forgive him and that yes he's transferring schools to be closer to his mother and is getting assistance from Willabelle in doing so but that doesn't remove the chance of another interaction or us seeing him again. Unless you want to write off his history with the other characters he's wronged and just let that be a loose end.

My personal feelings are that Damien could and probably should show up at least twice more. One so Jasmine can get closure and Mackey (i think thats who he was with or was it Lee.../shrug) can take a side. The other to show the PC and Willabelle that their efforts weren't in vain when it comes to providing him some help. After that narratively, if we see him again or not i don't care. If BD decides he's better served as just a face in the crowd or as a player on another team is his choice.
 

ImperialD

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I mean, is it wrong to enjoy the best written character in the game ?

So far he's the only character not to be exceedingly one note. Now, work in progress and things can and probably will change but saying that he's gone and forgotten is pretty silly. We know the MC isn't going to forgive him and that yes he's transferring schools to be closer to his mother and is getting assistance from Willabelle in doing so but that doesn't remove the chance of another interaction or us seeing him again. Unless you want to write off his history with the other characters he's wronged and just let that be a loose end.

My personal feelings are that Damien could and probably should show up at least twice more. One so Jasmine can get closure and Mackey (i think thats who he was with or was it Lee.../shrug) can take a side. The other to show the PC and Willabelle that their efforts weren't in vain when it comes to providing him some help. After that narratively, if we see him again or not i don't care. If BD decides he's better served as just a face in the crowd or as a player on another team is his choice.
she got closure when Damien called her at your house and broke it off with her ....he was with Ryker and those others that hung out with Ryker ... you forget the bowling alley ? and when he followed Jasmine to your newer house to talk with you one last time ?
and your correct when saying its all upto BD anyways ... but we'll just have to wait and see i would think ;)
 

ZTex

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she got closure when Damien called her at your house and broke it off with her ....he was with Ryker and those others that hung out with Ryker ... you forget the bowling alley ? and when he followed Jasmine to your newer house to talk with you one last time ?
and your correct when saying its all upto BD anyways ... but we'll just have to wait and see i would think ;)
He never interacted with Jasmine, so how could Jasmine get any closure from that ?
All Jasmine got was the MC huggin her and telling her what a dick he was. That's not closure.

She needs to be the one to have the face to face with him to properly vent / slap the shit outta him should she choose to. Crying in the arms of the MC only continues the damsel in distress personality she had and we know she's not given her own desires to do more.
 

ImperialD

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He never interacted with Jasmine, so how could Jasmine get any closure from that ?
All Jasmine got was the MC huggin her and telling her what a dick he was. That's not closure.

She needs to be the one to have the face to face with him to properly vent / slap the shit outta him should she choose to. Crying in the arms of the MC only continues the damsel in distress personality she had and we know she's not given her own desires to do more.
so your saying she wasn't laying on your couch and Damien called her ???? play the game again ............................
 

ImperialD

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I'm saying that's not closure. You and i have very different definitions of the word if you think a phone call is getting closure.
yeah i would think your right about that .... i'm done with this convo ... its going nowhere :oops:
last tidbit of info .. did she not say she knew they where ending ????
 

ZTex

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yeah i would think your right about that .... i'm done with this convo ... its going nowhere :oops:
last tidbit of info .. did she not say she knew they where ending ????
He never interacted with Jasmine, so how could Jasmine get any closure from that ?
All Jasmine got was the MC huggin her and telling her what a dick he was. That's not closure.

She needs to be the one to have the face to face with him to properly vent / slap the shit outta him should she choose to. Crying in the arms of the MC only continues the damsel in distress personality she had and we know she's not given her own desires to do more.
Emphasis added since it keeps being missed.
 

ImperialD

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look you don't have to be that way ... i was being nice i had thought .. and yes i had seen what was being said .. and no you don't need eye contact to break it off with someone Damien didn't .... but i guess you dont see the trees because the forest is in the way ....

final comment i'm gonna make ....on this subject ... take care :)
 
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ZTex

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look you don't have to be that way ... i was being nice i had thought .. and yes i had seen what was being said .. and no you don't need eye contact to break it off with someone Damien didn't .... but i guess you dont see the trees because the forest is in the way ....

final comment i'm gonna make ....on this subject ... take care :)
Speaking of not seeing the trees from the forest. Yikes man.

So you're saying Jasmine should lower herself to Damien's standards and just ghost the man, never get any recourse for that note she wrote or have any revelation that she was being used by Damien to hide the fact that he was in the closet.

Jasmine should narratively be given the chance to confront him and get closure. I get you think that a phone call is the way to go, but that does nothing for Jasmine as a character. If you happen to like the Damnsel in Distress Archetype or the Frail Lady who needs a capable man to handle her affairs fine. That's not how Jasmine has been portrayed and it would serve her better to be the one to handle her own affairs rather than the MC.
 
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Anyone know if the update is looking good for the 24th still?
24th is the earliest it's coming out. He made that estimate thinking he would work on the game a little on his honeymoon, which, honestly, was unrealistic and a bit silly. He updated it to between the 24th and the end of the month since then.
 
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