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ImperialD

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well this beta was interesting to say the least ... things seem to be heading where i thought they would ... thats a plus for my old ass brain :cool:
 
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RabidSloth

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Well, hopefully some of us would understand what BETA means. I haven't check it out and I have no plan to check it out at this time being. I rather wait until the week 1 re-do is completed. Since I have planned to start over again. We may not know if there any thing missing or been modified during that week one.

Those who have stated that the "update" was disappointed, might have to read the title that it was tagged as BETA. Usually it way better than ALPHA version. Real BETA testers would understand that when it comes to testing application/software/Operating Systems. ALPHA usually very buggy and released quickly to get feedback from testers to determine the new feature is good or not along with some inputs. BETA is partial release with less bugs and errors. However others may re-define their own method how to level the test product version before the final version.

Overall, I have to say that BD seems to show that he been in progress with his development of WVM. He provided a particle BETA release to the Tiers. We ended up getting the BETA here in F95zone that others been waiting to hear and see the fraction of the update.

Overall, I am going to pay my respect to sit back and wait until week one re-done get release. I been seeing posting in the last few pages that it may not be release until 2022. If that is true, I have no problem waiting since I been planning to start from the beginning anyway to see if there any additional modifications.

Have a great day and be safe... (y)
Thank you for that info. If there's going to be a Week 1 revamp sometime in the near(ish) future then I'll prefer to just wait too.

Since it could also potentially relate to the topic of the cycle of incest inquiries, and the mixed or frustrated responses explaining Patreon, the theoretical "evil modder", etc: A lot of the drama could perhaps be curtailed going forward if in this Week 1 "remake" Azel's content was at least altered/rewritten/toned down for the "Patreon version" of the game (which could still possibly be the only version ever). That being said, I have no idea how things work under the hood and from a dev perspective, so I don't know how feasible that would even be.

Though on the other hand it might not even be worth the extra work to change it if in the end a mysterious patch did somehow surface. Because then the people who want it could just use it, and the people who don't probably wouldn't be too bothered by how the in-game situation currently is anyway.
 
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JamieSadistic

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I'm sure this will get facepalmed into oblivion but whatever.

No matter how many times this mantra is repeated, it's still never going to change the fact that it doesn't address what the root of the big issue is about. If there was no sexual tension or teasing whatsoever between MC and Azel, and it was all completely wholesome and platonic, then yes, you'd still get some "No incest?" comments. Because her, Cedey, and bio-mom are hot, in a porn game, and we can't fuck'em, so some people are going to inevitably say something lol. But it wouldn't be anywhere near to the extent that it is now.


I think a fairly common occurrence goes as thus:

New Player: *sees Azel* "Are we going to fuck her?"

People on here: "No. Patreon counts it as incest, so there won't be any sex with her."

New Player: "Oh, okay." *keeps playing, and sees the repeated teasing and building of sexual tension with her*

New Player: "Hey now wait a minute! What the f--"

People on here: "NO INCEST! What don't you understand about that?!"


I think anyone with even a shred of common sense should be able to see what the real contention is about. And if anyone who's annoyed by how it keeps getting brought up ever expects it to subside, then one of two things has to happen first. 1) Content with Azel gets altered and rewritten. Or 2) An evil modder somehow makes a mod some day. That's it. Just repeating "No incest" over and over is understandably never going to placate the majority of people who keep asking about it. Within the context of what goes on between the characters in this game, "No incest cos Patreon" is as satisfying of an explanation as "Because" would be. And the amount of people on here who scoff and say "Why do they keep asking about it?" baffles me if they really don't understand why, and expect it to ever stop while the game is in its current state.

All of that being said: I really like this game. And very much look forward to seeing how everything in it plays out once it's completed. Now go ahead and proceed with the Facepalms. Ya'll hand'em out like candy around here anyway lol.
Yeah but Azel isn't MC's biological mother. No Blood, Free Love.
 
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:unsure::whistle::D

Ah, you are right and I stand corrected. I guess it's the drugs that have made me forget about this particular scene.

The wrath of entomologists who are fond of porn games has yet to awaken, then.

The world can breathe... for now.
 

RabidSloth

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Yeah but Azel isn't MC's biological mother. No Blood, Free Love.
Oh I completely agree with you lol. The problem is that for whatever reason, Patreon (and some countries) decided to still classify certain relationships as "incest" even if there is no blood relation whatsoever. Which in my personal opinion is pretty dumb, but what can ya do?
 
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Yeah but Azel isn't MC's biological mother. No Blood, Free Love.
Oh I completely agree with you lol. The problem is that for whatever reason, Patreon (and some countries) decided to still classify certain relationships as "incest" even if there is no blood relation whatsoever. Which in my personal opinion is pretty dumb, but what can ya do?
The reason governments do that is likely the practice of grooming. That's what it's called when a parent, adoptive or not, raises a child to become their sexual partner as soon as they become an adult. A lot of times before that, even. Older siblings and other family relations can be guilty of it too. As for Patreon, that's because game makers were using the words "step" and "adoptive" to get around the incest ban and they saw right through that. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't extended the ban to roommates and landladies yet.
 
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The reason governments do that is likely the practice of grooming. That's what it's called when a parent, adoptive or not, raises a child to become their sexual partner as soon as they become an adult. A lot of times before that, even.
That's a good point. I hadn't considered that. Shame it has to be called something that it's not. But I could at least see the purpose of it for those circumstances.

I'm honestly surprised that they haven't extended the ban to roommates and landladies yet.
My god... Imagine the chaos!! :LOL:

I've seen a lot of games have it to where you can just manually type whatever you want the relationship/title to be. Even though a lot of times it's pretty clear just at a glance what the intention is meant to be.
 

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just played through the beta, don't know if anyone caught it, but when the MC was talking with Anna, there was rendering inconsistencies... in some scenes she was wearing a suit, and others looked like she was just wearing a tanktop
 

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Somewhere it was mentioned we could also download only updates if we find the game too large, but I dont see any option on OP for that. Can someone help me in this regard?
update only patches are available only from 0.9 to 0.10 beta.

exactly and if MC isn't going to fuck her then the Dev needs to stop teasing us and put here in the background along with Cece and the others MC has no chance with. I'm sorry but they are just taking up space and time.
apparently you're ignoring MC's entire backstory and both Azel and Cedar effects there huh? might as well tell him how to rewrite his entire game?

just played through the beta, don't know if anyone caught it, but when the MC was talking with Anna, there was rendering inconsistencies... in some scenes she was wearing a suit, and others looked like she was just wearing a tanktop
it makes sense if you're on cheat path but yeah BD has been notified already
 
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The reason governments do that is likely the practice of grooming. That's what it's called when a parent, adoptive or not, raises a child to become their sexual partner as soon as they become an adult. A lot of times before that, even. Older siblings and other family relations can be guilty of it too. As for Patreon, that's because game makers were using the words "step" and "adoptive" to get around the incest ban and they saw right through that. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't extended the ban to roommates and landladies yet.
All that is easily solved by adding the option to type in your own relationships.
 

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I can't believe this is still being discussed. in many countries in the world including the u.s. Incest isn't equal to Blood Relations Only.

Not to mention that's how patreon defines it. Saying She isn't his real mom So it can't be incest is Just making false assumptions.

I was the same when I started playing the game I wanted azel to be a love Interest. I checked the tags in the game and when I saw no incest tag I used the search function and it took about 5 Seconds to realize that there wasn't going to be any incest. Case Closed and I could Continue to enjoying the game

But in the end the only thing that Matters is that braindrop don't want incest in the game So there won't be any incest.

And regarding the week one rework it won't change any Affection between the MC and his mom because that is How braindrop wants it
 

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exactly and if MC isn't going to fuck her then the Dev needs to stop teasing us and put here in the background along with Cece and the others MC has no chance with. I'm sorry but they are just taking up space and time.
So, let me see if I have this right. Azel is basically his mom. She raised him. Cared for him AS her son. So, that makes her his mom. Even IF there's no blood relation. Cedar IS his full blood sister. So, in essence, it would be incest. But, you say that just because the MC can't fuck his 'mom' or his sister, the dev needs to hide them in the background. My question to you, is that what you did to your mom and sister? I mean, you can't fuck them, so, am just wondering.

I can't believe this is still being discussed. in many countries in the world including the u.s. Incest isn't equal to Blood Relations Only.

Not to mention that's how patreon defines it. Saying She isn't his real mom So it can't be incest is Just making false assumptions.

I was the same when I started playing the game I wanted azel to be a love Interest. I checked the tags in the game and when I saw no incest tag I used the search function and it took about 5 Seconds to realize that there wasn't going to be any incest. Case Closed and I could Continue to enjoying the game

But in the end the only thing that Matters is that braindrop don't want incest in the game So there won't be any incest.

And regarding the week one rework it won't change any Affection between the MC and his mom because that is How braindrop wants it
Technically, Azel was never married to the MC's dad. They didn't even date for very long. IF they actually did. I don't remember. Azel started out as the babysitter. If I remember right. So, technically, she's his 'nanny'? But, anyway, these are just my thoughts and as I told Bubba ropershy above, she's basically his mom. That's how the relationship developed. So, if BD says no, it's no and people REALLY need to shut their mouths over it.
 

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So, let me see if I have this right. Azel is basically his mom. She raised him. Cared for him AS her son. So, that makes her his mom. Even IF there's no blood relation. Cedar IS his full blood sister. So, in essence, it would be incest. But, you say that just because the MC can't fuck his 'mom' or his sister, the dev needs to hide them in the background. My question to you, is that what you did to your mom and sister? I mean, you can't fuck them, so, am just wondering.
No. What he means is that there needs to be less sexual tension building between MC and those characters. They're all very clingy and it's almost as if Dev is pushing sexual tension between them. With all the cuddles, sleeping together, kisses on the mouth etc. If there is not going to be any kind of sexual relations between them, Dev should cut those kind of scenes back a lot.
 

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Azel adopted the MC after his Father's death so TECHNICALLY she became his step-mom BUT the MC doesn't see her that way as MC stated throughout the novel so far he sees Azel as his REAL MOTHER end of story MC said it many times

"Mom, no matter what happens no matter how I look at you you will ALWAYS BE MY REAL MOM" it doesn't matter what we think MC will always see Azel as his REAL even though Wendy is his real mom but Azel is the one
 
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