VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B5] [Braindrop]

[derpmcderp]

Man, it's such a shame what has happened to this game. I really enjoyed it when I first played it, enough to sub to the patreon and sit through the literal novels of self-hatred diaries the dev would write instead of working on his game. It really got to a point where I felt he spent 98% of his energy on these flagellation rituals instead of just telling himself to shut the fuck up and work.

I hung in for way longer than I should have, and even now hope he will eventually figure it out. I still don't think he's a scammer but he's 1000% a self-sabotager. I jumped out not long after his accountability partner jumped in, but I am betting based on what I've read here that she gave up on this too, assuming she was a real person to begin with.

I don't even really care about the game anymore - it lost its momentum a long time ago in a thousand shallow story threads with a thousand characters. MC went from having a clearcut trajectory to having 9000 banal conversations and a sex scene or two. The writing totally lost passion somewhere along the way and just started feeling very perfunctory. Like I said, it's a shame. Still think the whole thing has a lot of promise, but at this point it needs someone who will treat it like their actual job instead of their least favorite chore.

 

[SerHawkes]

So... Might as well slate this to the abandoned cycle then. Honestly a shame too. Really loved this game early on then things went entirely south with the development, which some of it can be understandable due to health issues and such, but at this point... BD might be better off having someone else take over this game. Agree to work with someone, let them do the major workings and stuff yet still have input and help with story... for the most part.

 

[mitymity]

I liked WVM from the beginning, but now, BD's clown show delusional excuse factory* is much much more interesting. Fuck the updates, just keep this up, it's hilarious. Like a good TV show, let's see what "happens" next

* let's give the health issues a benefit of the doubt, but i don't think the physical issues are the problem...

 

[Salek]

Did the Dev's say when the new version will be released?

Why? So that he has a date that he can't keep anyway?

 

[kcaldw]

It will be released when the DEV stops all the BS excuses and actually does some damn work. But that isn't going to happen because his sorry ass is just going to come up with another lame ass excuse as to they need another delay. BD just needs to stop the BS and either abandon the game or put out the fucking update.

 

[derpmcderp]

So... Might as well slate this to the abandoned cycle then. Honestly a shame too. Really loved this game early on then things went entirely south with the development, which some of it can be understandable due to health issues and such, but at this point... BD might be better off having someone else take over this game. Agree to work with someone, let them do the major workings and stuff yet still have input and help with story... for the most part.

IMO, this is the most realistic path forward that results in a finished game actually releasing. Whether he is capable of being honest with himself about that unfortunately is the primary hurdle to it.

 

[mitymity]

It will be released when the DEV stops all the BS excuses and actually does some damn work. But that isn't going to happen because his sorry ass is just going to come up with another lame ass excuse as to they need another delay. BD just needs to stop the BS and either abandon the game or put out the fucking update.

That is very tricky, he can't put out the update because of some reasons we mere mortals wouldn't be able to comprehend with out tiny dumb peanut sized brain.

But he can't abandon it either, as it's a dream job hobby, how many people that get paid handsomely to make up excuses do you know, outside of politics

 

[kcaldw]

That is very tricky, he can't put out the update because of some reasons we mere mortals wouldn't be able to comprehend with out tiny dumb peanut sized brain.

But he can't abandon it either, as it's a dream job hobby, how many people that get paid handsomely to make up excuses do you know, outside of politics

There was another Dev who shall remain nameless with a game that was something city that came up with excuses and promises and finally got the abandoned tag but the Dev is still milking his fans. In some regards I see a similarity between the 2 maybe they are the same person or best friends.

 

[Individual]

It's sad that this game will never get finished. By far one of the best games on this site. Really wish Braindrop would hire more developers and stick around to help and quality check what they make, but I know that Braindrop is too greedy and lazy to do any of that. Add onto this that his Discord is full of people that just eat up every lie he tells them and worship him as a messiah.

 

[grim019]

It's sad that this game will never get finished. By far one of the best games on this site. Really wish Braindrop would hire more developers and stick around to help and quality check what they make, but I know that Braindrop is too greedy and lazy to do any of that. Add onto this that his Discord is full of people that just eat up every lie he tells them and worship him as a messiah.

I also have serious concerns about the possibility of this game getting completed. Then if it does ever get finished at the way things are going it is going to take a ridiculous amount of time. IMO the reason people on his discord and patreon keep supporting him is they have a hard time separating the way they feel for the game from the developer. I don't think things will change until more of them do.

 

[jasont123]

Per BDs discord server:

Braindrop

— Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Nah we're not doing this.
I get the frustration but we're not taking it that far here.
If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here.
(Banned the offenders so I look silly with that message)

 

[Wen I Say]

If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here.

So let's see.

 

[mitymity]

Braindrop

— Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Nah we're not doing this.
I get the frustration but we're not taking it that far here.
If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here. I only want your money and always have as i don't want to work and neither does my wife and if i milk you long enough, my kid won't have to either.
(Banned the offenders so I look silly with that message)

 

[Wen I Say]

IMO the reason people on his discord and patreon keep supporting him is they have a hard time separating the way they feel for the game from the developer.

I recently replayed WVM and actually came to the conclusion that it's honestly not that good like real talk 6/10 maybe.... What made WVM so likable, in my opinion, was the setting and the promise it showed for expansion. The characters are bland and are as deep as paper and the plot is a work in progress at best. There's a lot of just air to where you the reader fill in your own assumptions which creates the "intrigue" in the VN. So if anything I think the rose-tinted glasses are what keep people around but that's my own opinion. When I read people talk about how this is the best VN they've played here I always ask them for their list of VNs and it's more often than not that this is their 1st which always makes me a little sad.. I won't list some BANGER ass VNs since I'll probably get this post deleted hell I'm probably infringing on something the moderator doesn't like. But if you're a vet your list is probably mine anyway and we know there's better out there by more reputable sources. Now that doesn't mean we/me/us don't want this to succeed but if you've been around the block here you know the terrain is littered with discarded great and some not-so-great dead VN's.

 

[aaachris]

I recently replayed WVM and actually came to the conclusion that it's honestly not that good like real talk 6/10 maybe.... What made WVM so likable, in my opinion, was the setting and the promise it showed for expansion. The characters are bland and are as deep as paper and the plot is a work in progress at best. There's a lot of just air to where you the reader fill in your own assumptions which creates the "intrigue" in the VN. So if anything I think the rose-tinted glasses are what keep people around but that's my own opinion. When I read people talk about how this is the best VN they've played here I always ask them for their list of VNs and it's more often than not that this is their 1st which always makes me a little sad.. I won't list some BANGER ass VNs since I'll probably get this post deleted hell I'm probably infringing on something the moderator doesn't like. But if you're a vet your list is probably mine anyway and we know there's better out there by more reputable sources. Now that doesn't mean we/me/us don't want this to succeed but if you've been around the block here you know the terrain is littered with discarded great and some not-so-great dead VN's.

what made it good was the update frequency and good models. There is many good games here but update every 2 to 4+ months kills the vibe.

 

[Wen I Say]

what made it good was the update frequency and good models. There is many good games here but update every 2 to 4+ months kills the vibe.

That logic is silly to me but if that's your criteria then you do you.

 

[jish55]

BD is now just getting in his own way, there's no doubt about it, especially the last few posts where he essentially seems uncertain about releasing the update that, honestly, none of us really care about (yeah, the game is based on basketball, but let's face it, everyone who supports him or on here plays this game for the major harem fantasy, not to see games of basketball that could easily be done in stills or not even shown at all and most would be okay with it). Because of that, we're most likely gonna see a ton of "issues" coming from him as he keeps pushing the update away that he's already admitted he's nervous about releasing.

 

[juan palote]

BD is now just getting in his own way, there's no doubt about it, especially the last few posts where he essentially seems uncertain about releasing the update that, honestly, none of us really care about (yeah, the game is based on basketball, but let's face it, everyone who supports him or on here plays this game for the major harem fantasy, not to see games of basketball that could easily be done in stills or not even shown at all and most would be okay with it). Because of that, we're most likely gonna see a ton of "issues" coming from him as he keeps pushing the update away that he's already admitted he's nervous about releasing.

I never understood this fixation on the exibition game, the basketball is just a background story for the character... no one really plays this game for the basketball....

 

[Deleted member 4175327]

Per BDs discord server:

Braindrop

— Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Nah we're not doing this.
I get the frustration but we're not taking it that far here.
If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here.
(Banned the offenders so I look silly with that message)

I’m the one that got banned lol.
That was after someone asked when the next update it, I answered, summarized, “if BD is back to his old shenanigans, then could be half year/full year. Who knows if he’s even in hospital, boy cries wolf constantly with different excuses each time, best case scenario we get 300 renders in March”

 

[Wolfen5]

Per BDs discord server:

Braindrop

— Yesterday at 9:24 PM
Nah we're not doing this.
I get the frustration but we're not taking it that far here.
If you don't believe me then leave. I do not want you here.
(Banned the offenders so I look silly with that message)

Par for the course. This is going as predicted.