VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B6] [Braindrop]

[ogr blanc]

I think making it a sandbox game would lose a significant portion of the audience, myself included. The format almost never adds complexity in a good and engaging way, it's almost always confusing, slower, and grindy for no good reason. Taste aside, from a pure development standpoint, the amount of complexity added if BD can't literally go in a straight line narratively would almost assure we never saw another update again.

again, i disagree, specially when i look around and see other sandbox games doing absurdly well in here. to the point some got abandoned, and people still kept going back to them in hopes of it continuing.

in my opinion, if it either changed into a sandbox, or was one from the start, the vast majority of people saying they wouldnt, still would.

 

[J.R.]

again, i disagree, specially when i look around and see other sandbox games doing absurdly well in here. to the point some got abandoned, and people still kept going back to them in hopes of it continuing.

in my opinion, if it either changed into a sandbox, or was one from the start, the vast majority of people saying they wouldnt, still would.

Na, never would have touched that thing then. Imo the game would have been also abandoned long time ago, too. BD is for me not a sandbox coder. And if it isn't done well sandbox is mostly a pain in the ass.

 

[ogr blanc]

Na, never would have touched that thing then. Imo the game would have been also abandoned long time ago, too. BD is for me not a sandbox coder. And if it isn't done well sandbox is mostly a pain in the ass.

guess what, if its not done well, any genre and style will be bad. there are a number of kinetic novels here that are massive garbage. its not because something is sandbox that its bad, its because it was badly made.

 

[J.R.]

guess what, if its not done well, any genre and style will be bad. there are a number of kinetic novels here that are massive garbage. its not because something is sandbox that its bad, its because it was badly made.

That was actually the meaning of my post. I don't think BD is a developer doing sandbox games. And don't get me wrong, but in bad VN's it's mostly not the coding. But in almost all bad sandbox/freeroam ones. You must have quite some skills and like that coding style to make a good one there. So it's way easier to fail there. I actually have one dev. who thought to change a (not so bad) VN to a sandbox. Guess what, it's a mess now. After that the game even isn't leaked here anymore because of the big loss of interest and supporters...
Well, I get it. You like sandbox games. Fine, play them. But imo this one isn't meant to be one.

 

[aaachris]

guy cant put out updates consistently for 2 years and you lot arguing about sandboxes

 

[granny gumjobs]

I personally love sandboxes. I had one when I was a kid. I'd spend hours in the summer playing in it.

 

[FormerlyGay]

Damn I remember when this game would get an update every month when it first came out

 

[datguy0115]

I really love that game. I backed it on patreon for quite a while and I would seriously love to continue to back it once frequent updates are back on the menu, but the differences between chapter one and two are really, really ruining the game for me right now.

Its literally like watching the second season of a show, after watching only half of the first season. You kinda know whats going on, but here and there pops something up, which doesnt make any sense with the background you got. It bothers me personally in any show I watch and it bothers me in this game as well.

I honestly think, that it would be so much better, if BD would stop making new content after the first basketball game is finally done, and focuses on the rework of the first chapter. With the new scenes, couple new characters and the new models of some characters, it could be like playing a new game with characters you kinda know. Especially if its been a while since you played it from the beginning.

But for right now, I am still waiting on the MindDrop which was announced for last Thursday.

 

[Individual]

But for right now, I am still waiting on the MindDrop which was announced for last Thursday.

I was literally thinking that exact same thing. I was starting to think I hallucinated it.

 

[juan palote]

i disagree, making it a sandbox would help the game alot. i think you are confusing bad sandbox games. that either dont make use of its gameplay, or force terrible grinding.

Like i said already, to me, it would fix the problem with the amount of girls, as it would give each of them a better pacing. and a road to develop them(and the story).

and i highly doubt the game would be worse than it already is. with this directionless, kinetic novel just keep the button held to progress.

I have yet to play a single interesting sandbox adult game.

If i want gameplay, i go somewhere else. I come here for the lewd stories, period

Sandbox elements ALWAYS come in detriment of story. ALWAYS. Because the Dev has to waste precious Dev time thinking of gameplay that it will 100% be dull, just clickng somewhere to go, and without even going to stupid stuff like grinding or locking events in certain time of the day

Sandbox adds nothing, removes immersion from the story, and reduces the time the Dev has to work on the important things and adult game should have: Story and Renders.

 

[gholmes]

Damn I remember when this game would get an update every month when it first came out

I saw a comment some time ago that I think might have hit the nail on the head.

Dev probably had most of the released content done beforehand, then released it bit by bit. Eventually running out of prepared content, and then he just couldn't keep up with what he made at the pace and fell apart.

 

[char_2.0]

nice update

what update? xD

 

[truc94]

I have yet to play a single interesting sandbox adult game.

If i want gameplay, i go somewhere else. I come here for the lewd stories, period

Sandbox elements ALWAYS come in detriment of story. ALWAYS. Because the Dev has to waste precious Dev time thinking of gameplay that it will 100% be dull, just clickng somewhere to go, and without even going to stupid stuff like grinding or locking events in certain time of the day

Sandbox adds nothing, removes immersion from the story, and reduces the time the Dev has to work on the important things and adult game should have: Story and Renders.

Much agree. Being a DIK is one of the best game so far if not the best, but those "free-roam" parts are the worst parts of all.

It's long, it's tedious, and it brakes the story flow.

I would much prefer to have a list of places to go or characters to see than to "look for them" on a map or in statics scenes.

So regarding gameplay, I'm quite happy with WVM.

 

[lemonfreak]

I personally love sandboxes. I had one when I was a kid. I'd spend hours in the summer playing in it.

Thinking back on my childhood playing in sandboxes, I reckonabout 50% of the time myself or one of the other kids found a turd

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[derpmcderp]

Much agree. Being a DIK is one of the best game so far if not the best, but those "free-roam" parts are the worst parts of all.

It's long, it's tedious, and it brakes the story flow.

I would much prefer to have a list of places to go or characters to see than to "look for them" on a map or in statics scenes.

So regarding gameplay, I'm quite happy with WVM.

Sandbox games also add pointless trial and error to pad the runtime. One of my least favorite things, to the degree that I will start a game and if after the intro it becomes a sandbox, I just stop playing.

 

[juan palote]

Sandbox games also add pointless trial and error to pad the runtime. One of my least favorite things, to the degree that I will start a game and if after the intro it becomes a sandbox, I just stop playing.

I also have abandoned games because i start them, they start as a VN, and then all of the sudden they change into a sandbox

 

[WaerM]

Damn I remember when this game would get an update every month when it first came out

This game had weekly updates in the beginning.......

 

[GingerbreadMan]

i disagree, making it a sandbox would help the game alot. i think you are confusing bad sandbox games. that either dont make use of its gameplay, or force terrible grinding.

Like i said already, to me, it would fix the problem with the amount of girls, as it would give each of them a better pacing. and a road to develop them(and the story).

and i highly doubt the game would be worse than it already is. with this directionless, kinetic novel just keep the button held to progress.

While I dislike sandboxes, I freely admit that it is because most of them are bad.

The thing is though - sandboxes mostly aren't that story heavy - which WVM wants to be.
If it succeeds is subjective, but for one coherent story, a sandbox used to separate the girls and progress them independently does not help at all.
And then - if all those girls were independent of each other, each of them would be an island - combining them would be much more difficult. Not impossible, but it would contradict the idea of separating them to be able to develop them without strings attached.
And if I hate anything more than (bad) sandboxes, it is a (non) story, that just is 5 stories in one, where you pursue '5' completely isolated girls, and they never even meet.

Also, while there were slivers of an approach to only lewd a select few girls in the beginning (where you had to answer in school which girls you wanted to pursue), that's not a viable option anymore - imagine a cast of 50+ girls (and growing, rapidly!!), where you had to render each variation of LIs. Just putting them all in your harem is much better to handle (if there were actual content handling them ...).

 

[ashkar666]

I just want a clarification please, I haven't played since v0.09, I understand that the new season 2 download includes everything from the start of the game up through the latest update, but I wanted to be sure, is anything changed in the story or images BEFORE where the new season 2 content starts?

 

[Phoexist]

I just want a clarification please, I haven't played since v0.09, I understand that the new season 2 download includes everything from the start of the game up through the latest update, but I wanted to be sure, is anything changed in the story or images BEFORE where the new season 2 content starts?

In theory, yes. The first season is supposed to be rewritten to be 30 days in length instead of 10, however in actuality that hasn't happened yet(probably won't either).